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>>> WELCOME BACK TO NEW DAY. A NEW BOOK IS GIVING US A LOOK
OF NORTH KOREAAN LEADER KIM.
ANNA HAD INSIDE LOOK AT THE
INNER CIRCLE.
INNER CIRCLE. HOW DID YOU GET ACCESS TO WRITE
ABOUT THIS MAN?
>> I SAT OUT TO MEET EVERYBODY
THAT MET HIM.
I MET A CHEF THAT CUT UP FISH
FOR KIM WHEN HE WAS A LITTLE
BOY.
BOY.
BOY. HE
BOY. HE KNEW HIM WHEN HE WAS SIX OR
SEVEN YEARS OLD.
I TRACKED DOWN HIS AUNT AND
UNCLE THAT WERE ACTING AS HIS
PARENTS WHO DEFECTED TO THE
UNITED STATES 20 YEARS AGO,
PEOPLE THAT APPEARED WITH HIM
AS PART OF DENNIS RODMAN'S
ENTERRATH.
ENTERRATH. >> YOU LEARNED ABOUT FAMILY
THINGS AND PERSONALITY.
YOU SAY THAT HE'S NOT A CRAZY
GUY.
GUY.
GUY. >>
GUY. >> NO PEOPLE HAVE THIS
INTERPRETATION OF HIM AS A DR.
EVIL DICTATOR.
EVIL DICTATOR. HE HAS SURVIVED 7 AND A HALF
YEARS AS THE LEADER OF NORTH
KOREA.
KOREA.
KOREA. HE
KOREA. HE COULD NOT HAVE SURVIVED THAT
IF HE WAS CRAZY.
HE HAS INSPILLED A LOT OF
LOYALTY AT THE OF THE REGIME,
BUT ONLY FEAR.
THAT HAD HIS OWN HALF-BROTHER
KILLED.
KILLED.
KILLED. ONE WOMAN A COUSIN, THE BROTHER
THATS WAS KILLED.
SHE HAD BEEN IN HIDING FOR 25
YEARS.
YEARS.
YEARS. HER HUSBAND SAID, HER REAL
BROTHER WAS A ASSASSINATED BY
THE REGIME.
THE REGIME. HER COUSIN WAS ASSASSINATED BY
THE REGIME.
THE REGIME. >> SO GIVEN ALL OF THAT, HOW DO
YOU EXPLAIN OR THINK ABOUT THE
WAY IN WHICH THE U.S. ENGAGING
WITH NORTH KOREA AT THIS POINT?
>> SO I THINK THAT DONALD TRUMP
SHOULD BE GOING INTO THIS TALK
WITH HIS EYES WIDE OPEN.
THIS IS A BRUTAL TYRANT.
YOU CAN DO WHAT THE U.S. CAN DO
TO PROMOTE HUMAN RIGHTS IN
NORTH KOREA, AND THEY SHOULD BE
DOING THAT.
DOING THAT. BUT FOR 40 YEARS, THEY HAVE
TRIED TO ISOLATE THE PEOPLE IN
NORTH KOREA SO ACTUALLY THINK
THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HE'S RIGHT
TO TALK TO THEM AND ENGAGE IN
SOME WAY.
SOME WAY.
SOME WAY. >> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A REGIME
THAT LETS PEOPLE STARVE TO
DEATH AND SENDS THEM TO PRISON
LABOR CAMPS.
LABOR CAMPS. AND THEY MANAGED TO KEEP THE
GRIP EVEN THOUGH WE MOVED INTO
A DIGITAL AGE.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN
CONTINUE TO DO AS THE WORLD IS
MORE CONNECTED?
MORE CONNECTED? >> TO THIS DAY THERE, IS NO
INTERNET NO NORTH KOREA THERE.
IS NO MEDIA OTHER THAN THE
STATE PROPAGANDA THAT IS LEGAL
THERE.
THERE.
THERE. ALL OF THEM HAVE SEEN MOVIES
AND FOOTBALL PLAYERS FROM THE
OUTSIDE WORLD.
OUTSIDE WORLD. THEY KNOW THAT THE OUTSIDE
WORLD IS A BETTER PLACE.
BUT RIGHT NOW THE SITUATION IN
NORTH KOREA IS SO REPRESSIVE
AND THE PUNISHMENT IS SO
SEVERE, THAT THE PEOPLE CANNOT
DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
ONE WOMAN SAID IF YOU DISAGREE
WITH THE SYSTEM, YOU TRY TO
ESCAPE.
ESCAPE.
ESCAPE. YOU DON'T TRY TO CHANGE IT.
>> HAS THERE BEEN ANY ATTEMPT
TO DISLODGE HIM OR IS HE BEYOND
REACH?
REACH?
REACH? >>
REACH? >> NOT THAT WE KNOW OF.
MAYBE THERE WERE SOME THINGS
BUILDING.
BUILDING.
BUILDING. BUT THERE ARE NO CRACKS THAT WE
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE FROM THE
OUTSIDE.
OUTSIDE.
OUTSIDE. >> WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THE
TERROR SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN
NOW AND HOW IS THAT COVERED IN
CHINA?
CHINA?
CHINA? HOW DO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
CONSUMER OF NEWS FEEL ABOUT
WHAT IS GOING ON?
>> THE TARIFFS ARE HAVING AN
IMPACT.
IMPACT.
IMPACT. THEY ARE A BIG EXPORTING
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. SO IT DOES HURT CHINA BUT THERE
IS A NARRATIVE THAT IS REALLY
TAKING HOLD IN CHINA.
IT IS PUT OUT BY THE GOVERNMENT
THAT THIS IS ALL PART OF THE
AMERICAN EFFORT TO KEEP CHINA
DOWN THAT AMERICA DOESN'T WANT
TO SEE CHINA PROSPERING AND
RIVALLING AMERICAN POWER.
THEY THINK IT HAS EVERYTHING TO
DO WITH CHINA AND TRADE.
PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS.
>> IS THERE ANY OPENING FOR
WIDENING THE CONVERSATION TO
THE MORE SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT
WE ACTUALLY HAVE BETWEEN THE
TWO COUNTRIES?
TWO COUNTRIES? >> AT THIS STAGE, I THINK CHINA
IS CLASHING CIVILIZATION.
AND THE WAR WITH THE TECH
COMPANY, THEY THINK THAT IS AND
WILL WELL BENSE THE CHINESE
ADVANCE.
ADVANCE.
ADVANCE. I THINK THEY'LL HAVE TO TALK AT
SOME STAGE.
SOME STAGE. BUT I DON'T SEE HOW AT THIS
MOMENT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET
OUT OF IT.
>> THAT IS NOT THE NARRATIVE
THAT WE'RE HEARING IN THE U.S.
BUT IT IS HARDER TO REACH ANY
SORT OF AGREEMENT ABOUT
ANYTHING IF YOU'RE WORKING OFF
DIFFERENT SETS OF FACTS.
THEY SEEM TO BE DOING THAT ALL
AROUND THE WORLD AND SOMETIMES
HERE.
HERE.
HERE. WHAT DO YOU SEE THE FUTURE LIKE
BETWEEN THE U.S. AND ASIA?
WHERE ARE THE FLASH POINTS AND
OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROGRESS?
>> I THINK THERE IS A REAL
RIVALRY BETWEEN CHINA AND THE
U.S. FRONT.
U.S. FRONT. SO WE SEE THAT IN THE SOUTH IN
THE SOUTH CHINA CEO SEA.
WE SEE A FLASH POINT OR A
POTENTIAL FLASH MINUTE TO
TAIWAN, THAT CHINA CONSIDERS TO
BE PART OF THE COUNTRY.
TAIWAN SEES THEMSELVES
INDEPENDENT.
INDEPENDENT. AND THE U.S. SUPPORTS THEM
FINANCIALLY.
FINANCIALLY. I CAN SEE THIS BECOMING A
MILITARY FLASH POINT.
I THINK THERE IS A CHANCE THAT
THE PRESIDENT OF CHINA WILL TRY
TO MAKE A PLAY.
>> REALLY?
>> REALLY? >> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES. >> WHAT ARE THE INDICATORS?
>> A LOT OF LONG COMING OUT OF
BEIJING.
BEIJING.
BEIJING. THE PRESIDENT HAS TRIED TO
CRACKDOWN ON ALL THE BORDERS
AND THE BREAK AWAY AREAS OF
CHINA AND CHINA'S MILITARY
MIGHT IS GETTING STRONGER AND