com hartman program positioning and the question was asked last hour
and I I don't know that someone yesterday is
here how appropriate is that they remember the United States Senate is
literally the lobbying they have intelligence service over for an agency
to to do something with regard to foreign policy in this case
I helping arm and fund I sis
the the Sunni rebels
a an initially and and to chill early
against such a Bashar al-assad
in in Syria
and then you know course the the
on unintended consequences that was that they became ices
or offshoot of them became ices which is now rampaging across Iraq
you know how he ate to what extent is that legal are appropriate and
interestingly in foreign affairs magazine is published by the council on
foreign affairs are for the Council on Foreign Relations CFR
hubert humphrey who
inge live 1959 had been a member the United States Senate for eleven years
and was a member the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
wrote an op-ed about this but this very topic and
he went back to the Federalist Papers now the federalist papers for those of
you who
may not remember a or didn't
you know or attended an american Public School where they no longer teach civics
the Federalist Papers it with a
they got together in the summer 1787 in Philadelphia
and locked themselves in a room
absolute secrecy swore themselves to secrecy for at least 50 years
and in fact James Madison died before they published
the his notes up the debate
on the Constitution and it turns out we learned many years later I mean it
almost a century later really historians
pieced it together that the reason the guys who wrote the Constitution
did so in such under secrecy was that
the majority of them were none of them were wildly wealthy
but the majority of them or what would today be called the upper middle class
the top one percent they were people who
who had assets equivalent to you know somewhere in the neighborhood a
half-million to a million dollars in today's dollars there were no
billionaires in the room there are no
who Burridge there were none in the United States the really really rich in
this country had all fled during the Revolutionary War after the
revolutionary war was lost
the Johnson family went to Canada others had been
period to be has to the crown there were back to England but still they were the
upper class they were the top
10 percent the top one percent and when they wrote the constitution in many
very substantial ways they were B train their own class
they were giving power to the it what
Jefferson referred to as the ploughman in the allman the farmer and the worker
political power to the people and putting the majority of the political
power the entire American government in article 1
in the house representatives which was elected at the most local level
congressional districts not statewide and elected every two years
so they were the most answerable so that was 1787 they've
finish that Constitution Day the road through the summer
by September they had no a good clean draft batters and send it off to
Jefferson in Paris Jefferson send back a lil
famous letter I think it was in December 1787 sane
you know if you don't attach a bill arise to this I'm gonna blow up
virginia's ratification other
negotiated all rights Madison I got changed a little bit over time Jefferson
didn't want there to be
you want a commercial monopolies but monopolies in commerce to be banned by
the Constitution
why we should proceed and
a there is one other thing that
the all its radio you wanna standing armies to be banned as well
and that led to the creation the second amendment but that's a whole other thing
so then Madison had Madison and his merry band who wrote the constitution
they had the problem of selling the constitution the people because we were
already in as its America but we're operating under the Articles a
confederacy
organ a confederation which created basically 13 nations
with a giant free trade deal connecting
that's what the Articles of Confederation were was sorta like
an early version of the EU
and Shh it wasn't working very well
and in the end and the states were very very different I mean you know
slavery was banned in new hampshire it was it was
openly not just the law but promoted in in in Georgia
et cetera
so the challenge was how do we bring all these people together in the
they they thought they done but they have a helluva sales job to do
and so Alexander Hamilton
who is the more industrialist guy
James Madison who was a little more aligned with
Jefferson an agrarian society even keep in mind in us a revolution not yet begun
and wrote the majority of the federalist papers which were published as newspaper
articles and they were all signed by I think probably else
it was a and are anonymous i mean they were signed by our
by a Latin or Greek name but you know we learned over time who wrote which ones
and so we now know john j I think authored a couple and George Mason might
a written one
arm but anyhow that that this series over the course of two years 1787 to
1789
leading up to the ratification votes in each one other states where they had at
three quarters the states ratify the Constitution
arm the federalist papers are basically just a sales job
to get people to say to their members of congress
please vote for this Constitution
and hubert humphrey in his
essay in July 1959
on the Senate in foreign policy that's the title
he has the role what is the role the center the formulation as is
foreign policy the answer this question depends on the character the times the
issues at hand
and handed the senator himself and then he quotes
federal 64
anarchy keep in mind federal 64 was a sales pitch but
it was also
revealing the intent
on the people who wrote the Constitution because it was written by the guy who
wrote the Constitution
I don't know 64 was written by Madison ur or Hamilton but
was out almost certainly one of the other
own it was Madison in fact the the 100 pointed out
naive within this article it says its unique values as madison is that it
proceeds with more colours
with more system and with more wisdom than the popular branch
for 64 was written by John J okay sir so he's
is quoting Madison first double firms
from someplace else and he says that the
the unique value the Senate because senators are elected every six years
so they're the upper body right there with the more deliberative more
thoughtful
they could do things that my get them in political trouble
that a member the house representatives couldn't do and that's why they gave the
power to
ratify treaties exclusively to the senate
house is involved in president negotiate a treaty
he has to send it to the Senate for ratification
missus %uh foreign policy is conducted in the United States president an issue
it said he's the chief foreign policy guy
he does it with the advice and consent of Congress Congress baz resolutions
sane you know president we think you should do that and so
but the president has he's the one who negotiates the trees and then he gives
them to the senate
and federal 64 says quote the Constitution provides that our
negotiations for treaties
she'll have every advantage which can be derived from talents
information integrity and delivered investigations on the one hand
and that is their vision at the senate senators as statesman
and then aces and from secrecy and dispatch
speed on the other that would be the president
president can operate you negotiate a treaty you know not out in public is no
public debate
and you can do it you know you just politicking wonder if I can call a month
but now
send letters back in for the emissaries are to get together and say okay years
older and do what you thinkin
he can work out the tree in and quickly and in secret
and in the senate has this deliberative process that touts
supposed to work in answer to your question 15 minutes past
is pretty good home
this is the Thom Hartmann program or hubert humphrey Jon Jay and James mattis
I think it's pretty good bunch articulate for