This is Matthew 5:27, it says
(Matthew 5:27-28)
You have heard that it was said,
‘You shall not commit adultery.’
But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman
lustfully has already committed adultery
with her in his heart.
So not literally but in his heart.
So, here Jesus is clearly saying
this is metaphoric, okay?
Now, it goes on to say
If your right eye causes you to stumble,
gouge it out and throw it away.
Is that metaphoric or literal?
(Stella) It's literal.
(Hashim) Literal?
(Stella) Yes.
(Hashim) So, all the Christians who watched porn
they should be blind by now.
(Stella) They're going straight to hell.
(Adnan) Ask her, "Has she ever seen with her eye?"
(Stella) Let me answer that question.
The verse you just quoted
So, when—
(Adnan) It's literal?
(Stella) —when. Yes it is.
I thought I told these guys—
(Hashim) Yeah, fair enough.
Adnan, give her time.
(Stella) So what that verse is saying is this
if your right hand—
(Hashim) Right eye
(Stella) Right eye, right hand, left leg
your head, any part of your bod—
(Hashim) No, they can't see porn.
Only the right eye can or left eye.
(Stella) Once it causes you to sin
you should remove it.
It's better for you
to go to heaven with one eye
than to go to hell
with these two eyes.
What this is simply saying
let me explain it to you.
If I what not(?) to something
that is going to lead me to hell
I should cut it off.
That's what it means.
So, if my eyes is that charlie
making me to sin and I cannot stop to sin with the eyes
you should blind my eyes
(Hashim) Okay, so Stella let me ask you this.
Have you ever seen anyone lustfully?
Other than your husband.
(Stella) Well, if I tell you no
you will not believe that, so—
(Hashim) Don't tell me lies.
That's all I'm asking.
(Stella) The answer is no.
(Hashim) So you have never seen anyone lustfully?
What about you Amy?
(Amy) Uhm, I think it's a very personal question.
(Hashim) Of course it's a personal question.
(Stella) The answer is no.
(Hashim) No, don't answer on her behalf
She can answer by herself.
So Amy, have you seen anyone
lustfully in your life?
(Amy) I don't want to talk about my l—
(Hashim) Okay, I'll take that as a yes.
Okay, because she's reluctant
and I'm pretty sure you have as well.
Because all men and women are sinners
in their lives, okay?
So, I don't think you're a saint
that you have never seen anyone lustfully.
Now, do you know—wait!
Do you know any Christian—
Stella.
Ok, fair enough.
Stella, can you show me a single Christian
who has removed his eyes
because he saw someone lustfully?
Do you know anyone?
(Stella) Listen.
(Adnan) After two thousand years
Hashim, two thousand years, man.
(Hashim) Even two hundred years, doesn't matter.
Has anyone done this?
(Stella) Let me explain that again to you.
(Hashim) Go on.
(Stella) If I'm watching pornography
because that's what this whole thing—
(Hashim) By they way, it's not just porn
it's anyone lustfully, anyone.
Whether it's live or line, doesn't matter.
Anywhere, yes.
(Stella) —I want to commit, if I see
this man and say I want to commit s—
(Hashim) Adnan, wait.
Let her make her point.
(Stella) I don't like this man—
(Hashim) Go on, finish Stella.
(Stella) If I see this man and say
I want to commit sex with this man.
That's where the p—
(Hashim) No, not even that.
Just looking lustfully.
(Stella) Because that lust truly gonna make me commit sin
either I rape a man or I rape a woman.
(Adnan) You're making the point!
(Stella) So, what Bible is telling you
remove yourself from that situation—
(Hashim) You haven't answer my question, by the way.
My question was, do you know any Christian
who has actually literally gouged out their eyes?
(Stella) If that Christian literally is—
(Hashim) Have they done it?
That's the question.
(Stella) Listen, if you ask question, you should wait for the res—
(Hashim) I ask you the second time, you're evading it.
(Stella) That particular Christian, would you
I don't know this Christian is g—
(Hashim) Anyone I'm saying, anyone.
(Stella) —sin and it's his eyes, that is making him.
It's either he blind himself
and if he don't do it
at the end of day he's going to hell.
(Hashim) Okay, so all the Christians, including Amy
if they have seen anyone lustfully even once
they're going to hell, right?
(Stella) The Bible wants you to remove
yourself from that situation.
(Hashim) Will they go to hell? That's the question.
(Stella) If you continue—if you die in that sin? Yes.
(Hashim) So, even if Jesus died for you
they are still going to hell?