Hi, wel- oh
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so before the music video for "jopping" even came out,
there were so much negativity surrounding the group, for one,
people were just very confused as to why SM was creating this super group and
second, because the audio for "jopping" was released the day before the music video was
and a lot of people were saying that it was terrible,
now I am no stranger to the word "terrible" and its various uses, but I was genuinely excited for Super M
even though I pronounce it "Su-perm" in my head
and I'm not just saying that because Taeyong my bias is in there, and I know a lot of you guys are gonna say
that I only like him because of his slightly above-average parrot handling skills
but actually I really-
he's just my bias okay
also Taemin is in this group, who was 12 year old me's bias
and no gonna talk about that today because I'm not ready to recount that heartbreak to you
and honestly the fact that people aren't excited about this right now
just shows me how much more people would have appreciated this back in 2012
because this whole Kai/Taemin pairing would have killed people five years ago
*counting* 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19
okay we're good
so it seems to me that Super M is just a few years too late with their debut
all the second gen Koreaboos would have very much appreciated this
regardless of all that I'd like to talk about why people have mixed feelings about it
or why people think it's terrible or why people are disappointed
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so theory number one is that the group feels weird, you know in theory
adding a bunch of people from already established groups into this kind of super group
sounds very cool but it's also uncharted territory, no one has really ever
done this before, ''why?'' is the biggest question that doesn't
seem to really have an answer, like yeah we want to make like a super group- okay
but why? what about the other members from the already established groups?
like what about them? like what -what's going on here? just their very existence
leaves us with a lot of questions and as species we don't tend to like
very new things or things that are unfamiliar to us because they could
potentially hurt us, so our own biology is just going against this group!
I'm kidding, all the biology students like you can go back to linguistics...
it leaves us with a bunch of unanswered questions like ''well why would you do this?''
''what about, what about this? what about that? what if this? what if that?''
''what were your intentions, like your real intentions with creating this group?''
coz you know you can't trust a kpop CEO
2NE1are ugly? what world do you live in? *anger*
it's ok, it's ok
I made a meme for myself
no one
literally no one
not a single soul
Angelina: but 2NE1
so let's move on to theory number two, the word ''jopping'' is
just weird, but not weird in a good way, you know, we had Zimzalabim and we're
all like ''what does Zimzalabim mean?'' and we were very intrigued
however with ''jopping'', like I was curious as to what it meant but I wasn't really
anticipating anything... um...
cool, I was just like ''okay this is gonna be something dumb
I'm sorry, that was just my initial interpretation of it, so I know that my
upbringing with prescriptive grammar has something to do with my opinion on this
and maybe like a week or two from now I'll be like ''no, jopping is like so cool!'' but
as of right now, I'm acknowledging my own personal bias with language
I hate prescriptive grammar but I do have to acknowledge its effects on the way
we think of things, right? like we all think jopping is a bit, you know, odd?
because it's not real and even if I try to push all that away, I try to push away
you know, my notions of prescriptive grammar, which I'm usually really good at
I still can't bring myself to think that it's cool, I still can't bring myself to
like, appreciate the word, just jopping, it's just like English is not a cool language
to begin with, I mean it kind of sounds like something that I would have
invented in the second grade- that's a lie, we weren't allowed to speak English
in the second grade! do you know what I mean? it just sounds kind of mediocre as
an invention of a word, you know? don't get me started on language and
linguistics! I will talk your ear off like I could talk your ear off about cockatoos
I paid a large amount of money to learn this so I'm going to give this information
to you for free, but language is pretty much infinite in the ways that
you can combine things, you can make a sentence that no one else has ever made before
like that's how incredible language is, so to make jopping, to make
jopping a thing- out of everything in this world - out of all the resources
you have in this world, and they have a lot of resources at their hands
they have the Korean language, they have the English language, they, you know,
that's already, you know, a lot of vocabulary to work with- why couldn't they have made a
Korean word mixed with an English word together as their thing? it just seems a
bit uncanny, don't you think? it's kind of like, ''this is a k-pop group, but it's not''
you know, like this weird feeling that we already have towards the group, mixed
with the weird feelings that we have towards the word jopping itself,
just create this really weird dynamic that I can't quite put my finger on
theory number 3
it actually does sound ''terrible", I'm gonna put quotation marks because
I don't think it's like a hundred percent terrible I mean that's the beauty of
quotation marks, if you put quotation marks, it kind of means that there's a
context to it, there's a context to the word ''terrible'' and my context is that
there are some parts of the song that sound really bad but overall it's not
the worst song I've ever heard. I can't say that I had the same expectations as
everyone else cuz I heard so much negativity about their group, everyone
was like ''what?'' I don't really have any personal ties to any of those groups
except for SHINee... which we will not talk about cuz I will
start crying... oh no... I can't talk about SHINee.. um... but you know that was a long time ago
when SHINee was my ultimate boy group
speaking of SHINee, this is a last time we're gonna talk about SHINee
speaking of SHINee, um I feel like the rest of the groups kind of debuted, you know
kind of like somewhat recently
Let's show Taemin's baby pictures, just because you know, it's a huge difference, you know
from like replay to jopping- okay what was my point now?
they aren't technically
a rookie group, if they were a rookie group I would
give the song a pass, I'd had been like, ''okay it's your first song it's okay'' but
the fact that we have people from EXO SHINee, NCT- the expectations were so high
and they were not met with this song unfortunately, you would think with the
multiple already established fan bases that the company wouldn't have done them dirty like this
but I'm going to explain to you why this song doesn't sound good
to me, and then if you want to share, you can tell me why you don't think it is
good to you or if you like it I mean not everyone thinks it's terrible, there are
a lot of positive comments - people do like the song but there are a lot of people
who have mixed feelings or think that it's terrible, right? you know there
were times where you would kind of get into the song and you'd be like ''oh this
sounds really good'' and then they just flip it on you and it would sound so
different and it would sound almost like a completely different song, so you'd
kind of get used to one thing and then get lost in the next second, you know?
they really pulled a girl's generation ''i got a boy'' on me but instead of warning
me that they were gonna bring it back to 1:40, they just brought it back to 1:40
without preparing me and that lack of preparation is really what puts me off
like don't get me wrong I think the visuals and the music video and the
choreography- I think they all hit the mark and I think they all hit so hard
it's not that the song sounds completely terrible, I think if you separated all
the different elements of the song and made them each their own individual songs
they would be great individual songs on their own, but with all these
different elements together, it throws me off it's almost like they wanted to
showcase each individual idols talents and they all have vastly different talents
because they're all from vastly different groups, right? and in doing so
it didn't make the song very cohesive, if they were a rookie group they would kind
of be forced to have this cohesion, right? they would be forced to be a group but
given their already large followings, you know, I feel like they're trying to
please everyone cuz they already knew that everyone's eyes would be on this
they already knew this would be a big thing but I think that's what was the
downfall at the end of the day, I'm personally disappointed because every
single aspect isn't up to the standards that I would
have thought they should have been at right, if they were a rookie group it
would be totally different but they technically aren't we can't pull the
rookie card because SHINee debuted in 2008 like they have so much experience
collectively and SM really did them dirty with the song but with the music
video the visuals the choreography it was perfect
so it's just it's it's confusing to me why all these aspects except for the
song are like so close to perfection and yet you know the song it's just like I
don't know yeah the music video was really nice I mean considering that it's
an SM music video, SM likes to do weird things with lights all the time
I would have put Kris in this if he were still with EXO, anyone remember ot12? no?
just me, okay. so that's basically my opinion on why I think people are
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