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hi everyone and welcome to topics with
desk
I'm desk this is topics we're gonna try
a podcast II sort of thing today podcast
e means podcast like where we discuss
something in English for fun and you can
hear what a real conversation sounds
like so anyway today
thanks for coming Kyle I'm Kyle I was
never a desk
I was Kyle all along thanks for joining
forever Kyle that's me forever 21 I was
born this way really yeah I think Lady
Gaga has a song about that right it's
about all the Kyle's of the world yeah
she was also born this way she was born
a Kyle but she changed her name twice to
Stephanie first Stephanie first and then
Lady Gaga later she's really cool with
rolling with this something yeah okay we
miss her me and all the other Kyle's we
get together sometimes and talk about it
like man she was a good Kyle
but now she's a great lady gaga have you
ever considered a name change my first
names actually Jonathan no yeah really
yeah what a revelation so why are you
called Kyle wait you just lied to us
they said you are always in forever Kyle
we can't trust you
desk middle name Kyle's count important
detail middle name Kyle's count too I
feel I feel lied to most people do but
you'll get used to it all right my
parents asked them all right let's go on
to safer territory okay let's discuss
let's discuss media our topic with desk
for today is to discuss the last thing
we watch the most recent thing we
watched TV show movie I suppose it could
be a sporting event but we can explain
the details of that thing
and then try to give just enough
information so the other person can
guess what it was that we watched so the
rule of the game will be will give the
other person a hint there will be a
guess if the guess is wrong the hints
continue and we will try to continue
until the correct answer is the rule to
last longer or to be guessed first
because maybe if you make the rule the
person tries to make the other person
take longer to guess then you know
naturally not give away important to you
that is true are you ready I'm ready
yeah yeah I I was born ready you were
born Kyle's mom okay
okay do you want to go first I'll guess
okay the last thing that I watch
features a middle-aged man
house of cards no okay
now is it your turn oh okay the last
thing that I watched
features five men
was it party of five
no that's not five men is it party of
five I don't know I never watched this
okay the last thing that I watched takes
place in the east coast of the United
States was it Groundhog Day no hmm nice
guest oh yeah what a loser man he's
cursed okay the last thing that I
watched hmm has a special guest in every
episode oh this is kind of cheating if
this is something we were talking about
earlier is it comedians in cars getting
coffee nope
oh never mind then
okay the last thing I watched now I said
it features a middle-aged old man mm-hmm
Oh actually to be honest there's lots of
middle-aged men and women of all ages
I just didn't want you to get stuck in
the middle aged man detail because I can
tell when you said Groundhog Day yours
thinking things that are just one
middle-aged man well you should say
features the point was to make it hard
for you to guess so my first glue helped
in no way okay well that's basically Oh
disregard that Yukos was it Mad Men No
okay all right the last thing that I
watched mmm the episodes take place in
the south of the US
I got this one Fab five you watch queer
eye I did hey I win and be queer eyes
awesome it's awesome
it's no good show it's a good show I did
you watch the previous version they used
to be a show called Queer Eye for the
straight guy I haven't I watched that
too it was more kind of entertainment
driven and while the new one is like of
course it's entertainment it's a TV show
it's not just about you know giving
someone a makeover but they're also
actually talking about important issues
related to race and sexuality and you
know your job and your position in
society and I was quite surprised
pleasantly surprised at how it is a
silly and fun show in some ways but
there's some depth to it yeah I liked it
it's Nina the new one yeah I think I'm
on about episode 3 of season 2 mm-hmm
and I agree completely from what I knew
from the old one which I never really
watched my understanding was it was just
making over schlubby guys more or less
and the new season is all about making
these making people better just in all
sorts of ways improving how they take
care of themselves how they treat
themselves and other people like and
they pick people
who are already making an effort to to
improve other people and they are just
giving them a push to bring them even
further along in that process yeah and I
was also surprised at how open the
participants on the show were like it I
found it very interesting that they were
choosing people like then perhaps we
might stereotypically associate as being
very close minded like a guy from like
who's very active in his church
community but was very welcoming to
people of different backgrounds or like
a police officer so these are kind of
stereotypical I think especially white
men in that area of the US have this
kind of stereotype it's associated with
being close-minded but the show is
showing well know people can be
open-minded no matter what they look
like or know what their backgrounds are
so and the South is as you said that is
kind of a stereotype that people the
south won't be accepting of these
certain lifestyles or what have you
and even some of the people that they
help are on the the political spectrum
that you would definitely not expect
them to be accepting of of the Fab five
but what you find is it's once people
get to know each other and see how the
other person works and how the other
person thinks then they see that all of
our similarities are way more prevalent
than all of our differences yeah that's
a good show it's good I really enjoy it
yeah you're on season 2 season 2 okay
I'm still in season 100 and looking
forward to it so now we do rapid-fire
yes please rapid-fire hint time okay and
I'll try to make it progressively easier
for you okay
I know almost nothing I thought that was
the point all right something I there
are some clues that will make it very
easy do you want those or do you want me
to build up to them let's go with the
build up yeah okay there is crime
in this show CSI New York Miami the main
characters know themselves are criminals
si si some with this many middle-aged
guys together committing crimes you
might call it organized crime
uh that one mafia show with the guys
it's called the shows named after the
heads yes I know
person's last name I know the soprano
yeah I've never seen that show you
should watch it everyone seems to love
it it's good yeah it's the polar
opposite of queer eye where you have
these criminals you see that they're
good in some ways
obviously not good in a lot of ways and
the show really highlights the weakness
inherent in a lot of these people and
instead of making them better you see
then become tragic figures because of
their weaknesses and a lot of the time
that has to do with how close minded
they are and how kind of I don't know if
ignorance the right word to ever use to
refer to anybody but just there they
have an insular insular meaning it
exists within itself kind of mindset
where they don't get a lot of feedback
from outside influences so the way they
think to today's standards seems very
very old-fashioned hmm so it's not
exactly a feel-good show you don't watch
that show to feel happy no so what do
you gain from watching the show do you
feel more introspective introspective
meaning like you look at yourself more
closely and into yourself and think
about yourself more or hmm is it purely
entertainment like dramatic
entertainment a bit of a a bit of B it's
certainly dramatic there's some tension
and suspense and you do learn to like
these characters despite their flaws and
hope that they'll improve and end up in
a better situation and it's TV you know
it's it's one of the earlier of the
these high quality shows that would be
considered the television Renaissance
that's going on right now Sopranos and
then Deadwood and then Breaking Bad and
Mad Men all of these shows brought the
serialized drama format to TV and an
almost like Hollywood quality a film
like quality and Sopranos was one of the
originators of that whole change yeah I
remember when The Sopranos first came
out first became available people were
shocked at the quality and people were
shocked at the the storytelling because
it was so different from
anything that had appeared on TV up
until that point we had lots and lots of
sitcoms like I think it's like
throughout the 90s it was so many
sitcoms friends and Will and Grace and
Seinfeld and all of these really popular
fun to watch things and the dramas that
were available like I jokingly talked
about CSI as an example it was kind of
very predictable and kind of cookie
cutter in some ways too but then
something like The Sopranos came onto
the scene and it took everybody by storm
meaning took everyone by surprise I
think like viewers yeah just really into
it it seemed like from the beginning
yeah instead of being limited to all the
drama and all the character arcs have to
be confined in one episode you have
seasons that it can sprawl throughout so
you have characters who have arcs that
last over the whole show maybe or over
multiple seasons or just a few episodes
and you have so much creative ability
with storytelling mm-hmm in that way
yeah that's huge to be able to tell a
story over a long period of time instead
of having 22 minutes of course there is
also an art to telling stories in those
20 minutes and TV overtime really
perfected that model
there's value in both but the serialized
format just opened the floodgates of the
kinds and the complexity of stories you
can tell and then now we have Game of
Thrones and West world and all these
shows that oh their existence - pretty
much directly Sopranos really so that
was kind of the catalyst the thing that
started it all I would say so
mmm or at least a major factor in that
kind of shift yeah in presentation
mm-hmm exciting yeah I haven't watched
it have you seen all of it then I'm on
the last season there six seasons okay I
haven't seen it you should watch it I
hadn't watched it until this most recent
viewing hmm and everybody talked about
it the way I just did like a hose was
one of the most important TV shows of
all time it's like I guess I'll give
this Sopranos thing a shot
I'm hooked now here we are here we are
talking about it good one well thanks
for all the hints those good sorry I
sucked it yeah see you got it that's the
important part
hey we got their final Hey alright well
those are the last things that we
watched quite different what was the
last thing you watched leave us a
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will judge you we will we will we'll
read your comments on the next episode
and be like look at this look at what
this guy said yeah we do every episode
ends with this oh we forgot to check in
with table yeah what do you think as I
thought desk doesn't watch TV desk desk
supports TV only all right we'll finish
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