amd that's what this is just
amd okay sure asus put it together so
they get to put their logo on the lid
but under the hood it's got an amd ryzen
5900 hx 8 core processor
an amd chipset and an amd radeon rx 6800
m
gpu with an amd chosen freesync premium
panel running it up to 300hz
also it's got amd smart access memory
technology allowing the cpu to access
all of the gpu's memory and amd smart
shift technology which dynamically
allocates power between the cpu and gpu
depending on the load that's a lot amd
but how does it all come together and
can they truly make team red
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amd's big message today is around their
amd advantage
design framework initiative which is a
technical way of saying that while amd
doesn't appear to have a
formal certification process they will
collaborate with laptop brands to ensure
that their product meets
certain guidelines so a laptop branded
this way should have a high-end zen3 cpu
an rdna2 mobile gpu support for amd
smart shift and smart access memory
enable by default a 144hz
ips or oled display with freesync
premium nvme storage
and over 10 hours of battery life during
video playback
you can think of it kind of like intel's
ultrabook platform back in the day
except for its fertungus gaming laptops
instead
and the asus g513 advantage edition is
one of the first laptops to roll out of
the program
which is all fine and good but the big
news here is like
what a competitive high-end mobile
amd gpu yup
this puppy packs a radeon rx 6800m which
would theoretically make this capable of
4k
60fps gaming if we bought into the
marketing
you see like nvidia whose geforce mobile
gpus are generally
beefed up versions of a tier lower than
their model number would suggest
amd is playing things relatively fast
and loose
and their specs aren't quite the same as
their desktop namesakes so on paper at
least
the rx 6800 m with its 40 compute units
is more comparable to a desktop rx 6700
xt than to a desktop 6800
and then there's the rx 6700m and 6600m
with 36 and 28 compute units
respectively
and neither of those look like anything
we've seen from amd to date
probably because they didn't bother
launching the low end desktop cards that
they had planned for those gpu cores
because of the ongoing silicon shortage
though amd would neither confirm nor
deny
the 6600m in particular looks a little
anemic
but then we've also seen the 6700 xt
perform
surprisingly well on the desktop despite
its compute unit deficit
so maybe there's more to the story and
there almost certainly is you might
recall us mentioning that nvidia's rtx
30 series mobile gpus
are actually misleading in their own way
the thing is
an rtx 3080 can have all the cuda cores
in the world
but if the clock speeds are limited by a
power
or thermal constraint performance is
going to suffer
and the sheer number of laptops out
there with tdps that were
well below what the 3080 needs to
stretch its legs created so much
confusion in the marketplace
that nvidia yielded and started amending
the rated tdp of the gpu
to their laptop spec sheets so then
amd might use lower tier chips but
they're also making a big deal out of
setting firmer power guidelines by
explicitly stating that the rx 6800m for
instance
is 145 watts and above
though with that said what the heck is
this up to nonsense on the 6700m
and the 6600m amd please
you can't just do better than nvidia for
one sku
you got to be consistently better like
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to be fair to amd they're relying on
implicit support between their ryzen
5000 series cpus
and radeon 6000m gpus for smart shift
which allows for power and thermal
budgets to be dynamically allocated to
the cpu
or the gpu depending on the load on each
so
in a nutshell what this could look like
is a cpu-bound game
favoring the cpu while a gpu-bound game
will pump more juice into the gpu
so it's the same overall power in
thermal output
but it gets divvied up wherever it makes
the biggest difference
that makes sense and nvidia actually has
a similar technology
except it needs explicit support from
laptop manufacturers
rather than just being a given that is a
major advantage of amd being so
vertically integrated
unfortunately though we only have one
all amd laptop here today
and it's equipped with the radeon rx
6800m so we can't dig
any deeper into that for now in order to
keep our testing simple we grabbed the
rog strix g733q which is equipped with
the same cpu but with an rtx 3080 mobile
gpu now bear in mind that this isn't a
full in-depth review of radeon 6000m
even
we're going to cover it in more detail
later so get subscribed but for now
we want to taste the performance and we
want to see if amd's numbers hold water
now metro exodus may be an older title
now but it just got an
enhanced upgrade so it's a great
candidate to test both rasterized
and ray traced performance at 1080p l
trap the radeon ends up
neck and neck with the rtx 3080 while
with raytraced global illumination
enabled we're seeing nvidia's more
mature ray tracing cores work their
magic
still though we're within about 13 so
it's not like this is a catastrophic
loss for team red
it does get a little worse in the
enhanced edition but for an exploration
heavy game like this
it is still plenty playable something we
couldn't have said about a high-end amd
laptop
ever the faster paced fours of horizon 4
meanwhile
well again it's not a bad experience but
we're down as far as 25
slower in minimum fps versus nvidia
which
isn't really what we were expecting
given the strong rasterization
performance we saw earlier
as for a much lighter title cs go well
provides nvidia with another lead
but the difference is in the 10 to 18
range so not game changing but certainly
not terrible
of course performance is only one part
of the equation
and amd is claiming that they have
significantly better performance
characteristics on
battery than the competition so we
pulled the power adapter and set the
laptops to performance mode to see what
happens
again metro exodus gives us pretty much
identical performance between
amd and nvidia in traditional rendering
but the performance
difference when turning on ray tracing
seems to be much smaller than before
as for the enhanced version which has
ray tracing locked on
nvidia loses frames as expected and amd
loses them
harder forza gives amd a slightly better
loss than its previous 25
and again it's still quite playable and
the situation in cs go actually looks a
little better
for amd on battery than not meaning that
we might be seeing smartship doing its
thing here
though it's still hardly a victory now
to be clear
we're not calling amd's performance
claims bs we just had a very limited
amount of time to try to find games
where they were actually able to pull
off
an advantage and honestly i am excited
enough to see a return to competition in
this market that
it's easy to overlook some words
moving on this may be a gaming oriented
laptop with a gaming oriented gpu but
you might sometimes want to do
i don't know rendering or something like
that and for that it looks like
it's fine but not amazing it
consistently comes in around 60 to
80 percent of nvidia's results in
standalone render benchmarks
and as for specu perf well we saw some
hints that it might be a better match
than nvidia for some professional
workloads with even performance in 3ds
max
and wins in medical and siemens nx now
that energy score looks
really bad but realistically you're not
doing anything like that on a laptop
anyway now because our geforce equipped
strix g733q
is a 17-inch laptop compared to a 15
inch so presumably it has
larger beefier coolers we're not able to
read
too much into these numbers but amd's
thermals also
seem to be well controlled so maybe it's
a pretty apples to apples comparison
i mean we didn't see temperatures higher
than 77 degrees at full load which is
pretty interesting given that this is a
145 watt tdp gpu
but that only drew 116 watts at peak
meanwhile the rtx 3080 mobile variant
that it was up against was a 130 watt
card
but that drew over 140 watts peak
this is likely down to nvidia's
opportunistic boost behavior and
explains why the thermal output was
roughly the same
interestingly though amd's core clocks
were solid throughout
so it doesn't seem like it was limited
in any way so in conclusion
while power consumption looks good it's
a little disappointing that performance
wasn't chart topping next to nvidia's
best mobile gpu in our test suite
with that said i don't think it's the
real story here anyway
the real story is that there is finally
another contender at the top end
and that means that you are more likely
to be able to find a laptop that fits
your needs
in this seemingly endless chip shortage
so while past linus and
maybe future linus for that matter might
say don't bother with this
just by geforce present linus is more
likely to say
hey look they're objectively not
terrible even if they're not super
competitive
and depending on the price you find than
that they may even be good bang for the
buck
so there you have it the age of the all
amd gaming laptop
is back or here for the first time ever
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so thanks for watching guys if you want
to watch something else that's
disrupting the laptop scene go check out
our video on the sensel touchpad that's
being integrated into some
laptops now seriously that thing is way
more of a game changer than you could
possibly imagine a touchpad being