>>> AS THE NATION AWAITS THE
OUTCOME OF THIS ELECTION, A LOT
OF AMERICANS ARE FEELING I WOULD
SAY UNDERSTATEMENT, FEELING VERY
ANXIOUS.
>> HISTORY SHOWS US PASSION AND
PARTISANSHIP HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
PART OF THE PROCESS AND PEOPLE
WILL FIND A WAY TO COME TOGETHER
AGAIN.
>> YOU KNOW WHO IS GOING TO MAKE
US BELIEVE THIS FOR SURE,
PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN, AUTHOR
OF "LEADERSHIP IN TURBULENT
TIMES, DORIS KEARNS GOODWIN."
DORIS, WE WERE JUST TALKING
ABOUT HOW WE ALL NEED
PERSPECTIVE IN THIS MOMENT
BECAUSE I THINK EVERYONE IS
LOOKING AROUND, LOOKING AT
PEOPLE AS THE OTHER, WALKING
DOWN STREETS IN THEIR
COMMUNITIES AND SEEING THINGS
BOARDED UP, AND QUITE FRANKLY,
YOU WONDER HOW WE CAN COME
TOGETHER.
IS THERE ANYTHING IN HISTORY
THAT SHOWS US, LIKE WE HAVE
ACTUALLY BEEN HERE OR IN A WORSE
PLACE BEFORE AND HAVE COME BACK?
>> WITHOUT A QUESTION.
I MEAN, HISTORY SHOWS US THAT
WE’VE LIVED THROUGH WORSE TIMES
BEFORE AND ENDURED THEM, COME
OUT STRONGER.
THINK OF THE REVOLUTION WHEN WE
WERE LOSING BATTLES, EARLY DAYS
OF THE CIVIL WAR, 600,000 HAD
DIED, YEARS OF LIVING THROUGH
THE GREAT DEPRESSION, OR EARLY
DAYS OF WORLD WAR II, YET WE NOW
KNOW THE END OF THOSE STORIES.
WE KNOW THE REVOLUTION WAS WON,
THE CIVIL WAR ENDED WITH THE
UNION RESTORED AND EMANCIPATION
GUARANTEED.
WE KNOW THE ALLIES WON WORLD WAR
II.
THEY FELT THE ANXIETY WE ARE
FEELING NOW, NOT KNOWING THE END
OF THE STORY.
WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT HISTORY
AND SEE US EMERGE THROUGH THOSE
TIMES, IT GIVES HOPE AND
PROVIDES LESSONS.
THAT’S WHY I LOVE IT SO MUCH.
>> WE LOVE TO LISTEN TO YOU TALK
ABOUT HISTORY, IT DOES PROVIDE
THIS COMFORT.
YOU ALSO HAVE STUDIED LEADERSHIP
THROUGHOUT HISTORY.
I WONDER IF WE ARE THE LEADER OF
OUR HOME, A LEADER IN OUR SCHOOL
AND COMMUNITIES, WHAT LESSONS
FROM HISTORY CAN WE DO TO BRING
PEACE TO OUR COMMUNITIES?
>> I THINK IT IS A WONDERFUL
QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK
LEADERSHIP IS EXERCISED EVERY
WHEREBY WE ARE, IT GETS
MAGNIFIED IN THE PRESIDENCY AND
MORE MAGNIFIED IN A TIME OF
CRISIS AND WE KNOW WHAT THOSE
QUALITIES ARE.
I STUDIED GREAT LEADERS OVER
TIME.
THE FIRST IS MAYBE HUMILITY,
WILLINGNESS TO ACKNOWLEDGE
ERRORS, LEARN FROM MISTAKES, TO
BE ABLE TO GROW.
YOU HAVE TO GROW THROUGH
INTERACTION WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
MAYBE THE SECOND AND SO
IMPORTANT TODAY, EMPATHY.
HAVING THE ABILITY TO SEE WHAT
OTHER PEOPLE ARE FEELING, TO
FEEL WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE
FEELING AND TO UNDERSTAND
DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW.
THAT’S SO CRITICAL TODAY WHEN WE
HAVE TRIBAL POLITICS.
AND THEN RESILLIENCE, GET THROUG
TRIALS OF FIRE.
ERNEST HEMINGWAY SAID EVERYONE
IS BROKEN BY LIFE, BUT SOME ARE
STRONGER IN THE BROKEN PLACES.
THEY CAN ARGUE WITH YOU, BRING
DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW TO
BEAR.
THEN YOU’RE HOPING YOU HAVE A
WORD THAT CAN BE TRUSTED,
INTEGRITY IN YOUR WORD, THAT
PEOPLE CAN TRUST IT.
AND FINALLY, DEVELOP AMBITION
FOR SELF.
WHEN YOUNGER, THAT’S A NATURAL
THING, SOMEHOW IT GROWS FOR THE
FAMILY, FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR
THE COUNTRY, IT IS SOMETHING
LARGER THAN YOURSELF.
IF THOSE QUALITIES ARE THERE,
LEADERS AND PEOPLE RESPONDING,
WE’RE GOING TO BE JUST FINE.
>> I LIKE THAT.
I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE MARCHING
ORDERS.
TAKE US BACK AGAIN.
WE HAVE FAMILIES WHO AREN’T
SPEAKING TO ONE ANOTHER,
NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE SIGNS IN
THEIR YARDS THAT DON’T WANT TO
LOOK AT ONE ANOTHER.
I WAS CURIOUS WITH YOUR
KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY IN THE
CIVIL WAR DAYS WHEN PEOPLE
FOUGHT ON OPPOSITE SIDES, HOW
DID THEY EVER COME TOGETHER AT
THE END?
HOW DID IT WORK?
>> WELL, THINK WHAT IT MUST HAVE
BEEN LIKE.
YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT,
FAMILIES ARE DIVIDED, THE WHOLE
COUNTRY IS DIVIDED, YOU HAVE THE
CONFEDERATE NATION AND THE
UNION.
THAT’S WHERE LEADERSHIP
MATTERED.
EVEN ON THE EVE OF CIVIL WAR,
LINCOLN DOESN’T GIVE A
TRIUMPHANT MESSAGE, BOTH READ
THE SAME BIBLE, NEITHER’S
PLAYERS ARE FULLY ANSWERED AND
CALLS FOR RECONCILIATION.
MALICE FOR NONE, CHARITY FOR
ALL, LET’S BIND UP THE NATION’S
WOUND.
IT IS A PART OF US HUNGERING FOR
LETTING
LETTING DIVISIONS HEAL AND
BECOME THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA.
WHAT UNITES US IS GREATER THAN
WHAT DIVIDES US.
WE HAVE TO BRING THAT TO THE
SURFACE.
>> WE SAW HUGE VOTER TURNOUT,
SHOWS US OUR DMOPSEMOCRACY IS ST
VERY MUCH VALUED.
WHEN YOU SEE IT IN ACTION, DO
YOU FEEL HOPEFUL, EVEN THOUGH AS
HODA SAID, NEIGHBORS CAN’T SIT
AT THE SAME TABLE, FAMILIES
DIVIDED, HOW DO YOU OVERCOME IT
AND THINK OUR DEMOCRACY IS
STRONG?
>> WHAT THAT MASSIVE VOTE SHOWS
US IS PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN
CONSIDERABLE PART IN THE
PROCESS.
MAYBE THEN THE GOVERNMENT WON’T
SEEM LIKE A FOREIGN BODY OUT
THERE THAT WE HATE OR LOVE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEN WE
BECOME, WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE
GOVERNMENT.
THAT’S A REALLY HOPEFUL SIGN.
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT
HOW WE CONSUME MEDIA BECAUSE
WHAT HAPPENED IN THE 1850s IS
YOU ONLY READ PARTISAN PRESS.
IF YOU WERE REPUBLICAN, READING
ABOUT LINCOLN AT DEBATE WITH
STEVEN DOUGLAS, THEY WOULD SAY
HE WAS GREAT, CARRIED OUT ON THE
ARMS OF SUPPORTERS.
YOU READ THE DEMOCRATIC
NEWSPAPER, HE WAS SO TERRIBLE,
HE HAD TO BE DRAGGED OUT OF THE
ROOM.
THAT’S WHAT’S HAPPENING NOW.
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET
FACTS WE AGREE ON, THEN ARGUE
ABOUT OPINIONS.
I SAY I THINK THE HUNGER IS
THERE.
PARTICIPATION IS THERE.
ALL SORTS OF OBSTACLES WERE
PLACED BEFORE US IN THE
PANDEMIC, PEOPLE VOTED,
ESPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE.
AND THAT’S THE FUTURE.
IF THEY TRUST AND BELIEVE IN THE
PROCESS, MAYBE WE GET A NEW
START ON DIVISION THAT’S
TERRIBLE FOR US TO HAVE TO
ENDURE.
>> QUICKLY, ONE LAST QUESTION,
DORIS.
IF YOU WERE TO SIT ACROSS THE
MAN WHO WOULD BE PRESIDENT RIGHT
NOW, AND IF THAT PERSON WAS
ALREADY DECIDED, WHAT WOULD BE
YOUR ABCs, WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU
GIVE HIM GOING INTO THE NEXT FEW
MONTHS?
>> I THINK THE FIRST THING TO
SAY THAT WORDS MATTER, SO THE
TONE OF HOW YOU SPEAK TO THE
COUNTRY IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
CALLING FOR THAT HEALING.
SECOND, ACTIONS MATTER.
I WOULD TELL HIM, HAS TO BE HIM
NOW TO BRING AS MANY PEOPLE FROM
THE OPPOSITE SIDE INTO THE WHITE
HOUSE AS SOON AS HE CAN TO
CREATE A TEAM THAT HAS DIFFERENT
POINTS OF VIEW IN IT SO YOU HAVE
A TEAM OF RIVALS LIKE LINCOLN
HAD.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, BECOME
PRESIDENT OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE.
GO TO STATES YOU LOST.
TALK TO PEOPLE THAT DIDN’T
SUPPORT YOU, BEGIN TO USE THE
POWER OF THE BULLY PULL PET OF
THE PRESIDENCY TO SET A NEW TONE
FOR THE COUNTRY.
LEADERS CAN MATTER.
THAT MOMENT FDR CAME INTO THE
INAUGURAL WITH A DIFFERENT POINT
OF VIEW FROM THE PREVIOUS
ADMINISTRATION, SUDDENLY
HEADLINES SAID WE HAVE A LEADER,
THE GOVERNMENT STILL LIVES AND
MOOD OF THE COUNTRY CHANGED.
IT IS EXTRAORDINARY WHAT
LEADERSHIP AND FOLLOWING PEOPLE
CAN DO, AND IT IS UP TO PEOPLE
THEMSELVES.
EVERY REAL CHANGE IN THE COUNTRY
HAS COME FROM THE GROUND UP.
WE HAVE TO DEMAND SOMETHING MORE
FROM NOT JUST THE PRESIDENT BUT
FROM PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON, START
TALKING.
MAYBE THEY SHOULD LIVE IN THE
WHITE HOUSE TOGETHER A COUPLE OF
WNLDS, SEE
WEEKENDS, THAT’S WHAT LBJ DID,
WOULDN’T LET THEM COME OUT
WITHOUT SOMETHING.
>> YOU GIVE US SO MUCH HOPE.
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