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so learn about the process model that
came from that sort of my very developed
really came from applying the philosophy
about how something is at first
inarticulate and it implies something
which then when you get it you look back
and you say that was what I was trying
to say and actually there are two was
says there is the was in my memory when
I would say a sorry folks are neat time
can't say and then there is the wells
from the place I've said it back that's
a different was that what I'm able to
say what I'm saying now my new language
carries forward what was there but the
other person will say this what I'm
saying now was what I was trying to say
then salami so that that gives birth to
a model in which I want there not to be
atoms and electrons and people and
entities like that I want there to be
from the beginning and implying that is
carried forward but of course I can't
say implying because that's a word for
logic and it means exactly that what
comes out was already there so I have to
change the word imply right and all the
words are like that they all have to
change implying now has to mean what you
look back to from carrying forward so
implying changes itself is it as
that's enough of that oh yeah one more
point about that so with that model I
could build something I could then then
change what I see now is my main enemy
if you like sort of jokingly said which
is that the traditional idea that we
begin with perception that experience to
start with is somehow perception that is
you know even Caravaggio says that but
that's alrighty he's just using that in
a certain way he doesn't actually mean
perception he means a person's take on a
situation you know my perception of this
situation is that you're going to let me
talk a little longer and then it'll be
too much or something like that but the
model that that falls into is the model
that everything begins with perception
and I feel like no now I know that that
can't be right the body is not separate
from the world and then there is a
screen and then there is five little
holes seeing hearing tasting touching
and smelling or something and everything
is supposed to come to me through these
five holes and how I am a body in the
first place
that's just mechanics physics chemistry
that that's not right the body is in
interaction with the world to begin with
to begin with meaning a plant this is my
slogan that I'm enjoying hearing back
from you that we're really plants what
this is what that wants to mean the body
is in inter is an interaction it isn't
actually a view separated it dies right
away it is an interaction first with the
light and the water in the plan I'm
talking as if we did photosynthesis I
understand we don't and then you can get
you can get to that means you can derive
and I haven't shown you that but a
theory can expand if you ask the theory
okay fine you've got this wonderful
thing there the body and the environment
go like that and there's nothing every
separate and they cut each other forward
good now tell me something about
behavior and at first he said this is
not part of my theory as all I've got
here is plants you know or whatever even
so I could use it I could already say
see I can explain focusing with that how
is the body so smart well that's because
the body is the situation but I'm
skipping a lot because when I'm asked
what is behavior I would be stuck then
and then and stuck in it in a way that I
want to show you what's very enjoyable
it's very exciting to be stuck like that
it says how does my theory explain
behavior how can it and at that point it
can expand so it seems that there is
this a moment a moment carrying forward
of living tissue and then what's
behavior somewhere here there has to be
something that stops it but doesn't kill
it but stops it and then when you put
that back it goes again I got me that so
at least I got objects right I call
those objects anything where the little
thing if it comes back the whole thing
moves again okay so that makes it
possible to have what I'm calling a
detour for short where it stops and then
the living thing has to go and look for
this thing that's missing all over the
place and then it finds it and it like
maybe eats it ah now the body process
can go on forward again you follow me
now that's a very simple model but it
can do a big thing it can derive
behavior from tissue process so it can
explain why some behavior continues the
body forward and some doesn't because by
this time we need more terms than this
we've learned as human beings how to
behave without carrying forward the body
right
have to have better we can't live
together so that's now a big point that
we're going to have to explain how we
can have behavior that doesn't carry the
body force you follow me because the
model says or less behavior when
something is missing and then there
develops a detour that maybe provides it
ah then you know like searching for food
and finding it or something like that
right and I have to stop there but
obviously I've got to find a way to
derive language and which is still
another kind of detour
I remember stop there I want the point I
wanted to make is can you smell that
this begins to explain focusing how is
it possible that there is this body
implying that knows the situation
because it is the situation it is the
environment and I have I know I broke it
off and didn't get the human environment
in there but the body is the situation
and I find everybody is concerned with
the body now and pretty soon if I stay
around long enough I'm going to see some
people get this focusing point to maybe
but so far they haven't done it they're
talking about everything from the both
philosophy and psychology everything
with the body great respect for the body
any minute they'll find and found us
this entrance there that that focusing
has and so they're talking about dance
and they're talking about how the body
moves and philosopher named Meryl upon
tu who died in 56 I think is back in
vogue and he said wonderful things like
perception he's talked about a lot but
then he did say that it isn't just the
five senses because you can sense the
space behind you
right and that's true of course you can
sense the space behind you and you don't
see it hear it smell it or touch it but
then I come and I say enough of this
empty space business you can sense the
situation behind you you can sense who's
following you on the street you can
sense right now sitting here that if you
wheel around you're going to know
the person behind you right you wouldn't
want to do that so you sort of sit still
but but if you you know you would turn
it carefully around say excuse me or
something or if I tip this too far
I hit that problem but I'm afraid of
falling huh well if I move too much not
as severe just cake then I want to say
but it's so interesting and I'm not
really finished thinking it there is
this one zone where we are in touch with
the body in this focusing away from the
inside were anything that comes there is
not going to be wrong somebody's not
going to be all wrong I say in relation
to Robin the statement can be wrong and
all that but something is going to be
right from there and everywhere else
there is traffic sort of I've always
called it and now I think that's very
funny because I got this accident in
traffic I'm drawing some sort of
distinction that I would like to be able
to talk more about and all the other
things I could talk a lot about this
what not I can just go this far there is
this zone of rightness in there in there
you may get nothing but you're never
going to get something that's all wrong
it's always going to have a next step
that's a right next step and it might
not be all the way right but it's a
right next step isn't there that's very
interesting to me because anywhere else
you can have an accident in a taxi kappa
whatever anywhere else any damn thing
can happen but in this little zone where
your body is the what it grows out of
and is the what you're up against
situation and has all of what has
happened and then still finds a new step
in there is a zone of rightness right
what I was able to
this really clearly to Mary she said of
course well that's the only interesting
thing so so I I think that was a very
valuable addition to me because because
her attitude there freed me from all the
other sort of it felt as if I had to
figure out how that relates to all the
other things and now I don't have to
it's like well hold on to this because
this is the this is a really interesting
thing here here something comes through
and everywhere else what else you are so
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