IT BY A LANDSLIDE.
THIS WAS NOT A CLOSE ELECTION.
>>> WE WON IN A LANDSLIDE.
THIS WAS A LANDSLIDE.
>> WE WON THIS ELECTION IN A
LANDSLIDE.
>> MICHAEL WOLFFS NEW BOOK
DETAILING THE FINAL WEEKS OF THE
TRUMP PRESIDENCY IS TITLED
FITTINGLY "LANDSLIDE" AND HE
JOINS ME NOW.
MICHAEL WOLFF, GREAT TO SEE YOU
AGAIN.
THANK YOU FOR COMING TO "THE
SUNDAY SHOW."
>> ITS NICE TO SEE YOU.
ITS BEEN A WHILE.
>> ITS BEEN A LONG WHILE.
THIS IS YOUR THIRD BOOK ON THE
TRUMP PRESIDENCY, AND, I MEAN,
YOU CHRONICLE A LOT OF CRAZY
THINGS IN THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE,
BUT THERES THIS ONE CRAZY THING
THAT I WANT TO PUT UP RIGHT NOW.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE HANNITY
THEORY.
IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THIS THEORY
GIVEN TO PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
BY SEAN HANNITY, AND IT WAS
BASICALLY THIS SUPER SECRET PLAN
BY THE DEMOCRATS TO BASICALLY
REPLACE BIDEN AS THE NOMINEE
WITH A ANDREW CUOMO.
AND CARL ROVE IS IN THIS MEETING
WHERE THE PRESIDENT TELLS HIM
THIS, AND CARL ROVE SAYS, EVEN
ASSUMING THEY WANTED TO DO THIS,
WHY WOULD BERNIE SANDERS,
DECLARED DEMOCRATIC RUNNER UP,
ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN?
HERES THE PART THAT MADE ME
GASP OUT LOUD AND READ THREE
TIMES.
BECAUSE, THE AGITATED PRESIDENT
SAID, LOWERING HIS VOICE, THIS
IS ALL BEING COORDINATED BY THE
OBAMAS.
AND, TRUMP ADDED, MORE DARKLY,
THERE IS A VERY GOOD CHANCE THAT
MICHELLE WILL GO ON THE CUOMO
TICKET AS VP.
THIS IS WHERE CARL ROVE SAYS TO
PARSCALE, MY GOD, WHERE DID HE
GET THIS FROM?
SEAN HANNITY.
SEAN HANNITY, ROVE REPEATED?
AND PARSCALE SAYS, POTUS
BELIEVES IT.
IF YOU COULD CALL HANNITY AND
TELL HIM TO LET UP, THAT MIGHT
BE GOOD.
>>> MICHAEL, SERIOUSLY.
>> I MEAN, ON ONE LEVEL YOUVE
GOT TO SAY ITS HILARIOUS.
AND CARL ROVE WAS -- YOU KNOW,
ONE OF THE FUNNY ASPECTS OF THIS
IS THAT THEY CALLED CARL ROVE
BECAUSE THEY WERE -- YOU KNOW,
THEY HAD TO CONVINCE TRUMP TO
ATTACK BIDEN, WHICH HE REFUSED
TO DO BECAUSE HE THOUGHT HE
WOULD WEAKEN THEM, AND THEN THE
TICKET WOULD HAVE CUOMO AND
MICHELLE OBAMA.
THEY GOT ROVE UP INTO WASHINGTON
INTO THE OVAL OFFICE TO TRY TO,
TO TRY TO CONVINCE THE PRESIDENT
THAT THIS WAS CRAZY STUFF, AND
THIS WAS A SUPER SECRET MEETING.
AND THEN ROVE WALKED IN AND
THERE WERE 15 PEOPLE IN THE OVAL
OFFICE BECAUSE THERE ARE
ALWAYS -- THE OVAL OFFICE UNDER
TRUMP WAS ALWAYS FILLED WITH
THIS KIND OF, WELL, THERE ARE
PEOPLE IN THE TRUMP -- IN THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WHO ALWAYS
CALLED THE OVAL OFFICE THE "STAR
WARS" BAR SCENE.
>> THE "STAR WARS" BAR SCENE.
I THINK ITS ISLIS, IF IM
PRONOUNCING IT CORRECTLY.
AS IN YOUR FIRST BOOK, YOU
PREVIEWED AT THE BEGINNING OF
THE TRUMP TERM WHAT WE ALL ENDED
UP SEEING THROUGHOUT FOUR YEARS,
AND IF PAST IS PROLOGUE, DONALD
TRUMP HAS A REACTION TO YOUR
THIRD BOOK ABOUT HIM.
AND I WANT TO PUT UP THE
STATEMENT FROM LIZ HARRINGTON ON
BEHALF OF DONALD TRUMP WHERE, IN
THE STATEMENT ITS A TWEET.
ALL THESE STORIES FROM THE
MICHAEL WOLFF BOOK ARE NOT TRUE.
WOLFF NEVER ASKED PRESIDENT
TRUMP ABOUT THEM.
IF HE HAD, HE WOULD HAVE REFUTED
THEM.
FAKE NEWS, EXCLAMATION POINT.
MICHAEL WOLFF, DID YOU OR DID
YOU NOT TALK TO DONALD TRUMP FOR
THIS BOOK?
>> I SPOKE TO HIM FOR SEVERAL
HOURS, ALMOST THREE HOURS AND
THEN FOLLOWED BY DINNER WITH THE
PRESIDENT AND THE FORMER FIRST
LADY.
SO, WE TALKED ENDLESSLY,
EXHAUSTIVELY -- AT LEAST, LET ME
PUT THIS ANOTHER WAY.
HE TALKED ENDLESSLY AND
EXHAUSTIVELY.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS, BECAUSE
I KNOW HOW TRUMP WORKS.
I KNOW THIS.
SO JUST TO HEAD THIS OFF, I ALSO
SUBMITTED TO HIM AND HIS OFFICE
AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST OF ALL OF THE
FACT MATTERS IN THIS BOOK.
SO THEY HAVE SEEN EVERYTHING IN
THIS BOOK BEFOREHAND, AND
CERTAINLY THE PEOPLE IN HIS
OFFICE WHO I WAS DEALING WITH
ACTUALLY COMPLIMENTED ME FOR MY
REMARKABLE --
>> AND, MICHAEL, REAL QUICKLY, I
REMEMBER FROM YOUR FIRST BOOK,
YOU SAT IN THE WEST WING LOBBY
FOR DAYS ON END TALKING TO
ANYONE AND EVERYONE WHO CAME
THROUGH.
>> ACTUALLY MONTHS ON END.
>> RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, MONTHS
ON END.
DID YOU HAVE THE SIMILAR TYPE OF
ACCESS TO PEOPLE IN TRUMP WORLD?
>> YEAH, BECAUSE AS SOON AS I
STARTED THIS BOOK, ONE OF THE
PEOPLE IN TRUMP WORLD WHO I WAS
TALKING TO TOLD THE PRESIDENT
THAT I WAS OR WAS SOON TO BE
FORMER PRESIDENT, THAT I WAS
DOING THIS BOOK, KIND OF TO WARN
HIM.
BUT HE SAID, OH, THAT GUY GETS
RATINGS.
LETS SEE HIM.
SO THEN I WENT TO SEE THE
PRESIDENT, AND THEN THE
PRESIDENT TOLD EVERYBODY IN
TRUMP WORLD TO TALK TO ME.
SO, YES.
IT WAS A RATHER OPEN BOOK.
>> AND I SEEM TO RECALL THAT
THIS IS THE SAME PATTERN THAT
HAPPENED IN THE FIRST BOOK.
TALK TO YOU, THE BOOK COMES OUT,
HE TRASHES YOU, SAYS HE NEVER
TALKED TO YOU, AND THEN, YOU