Should someone have to have a government issued license to drive a car?
>> No.
>> What's next requiring a license to make toast in your own damn toaster.
>> [APPLAUSE] >> The license to drive?
You know, I'd like to see some competency exhibited by people before they drive?
>> Darrell Perry's voice sounded familiar to me,
and I remembered that he actually has debated others.
He has debated a progressive, Sam cedar and it's one
of the most legendary Sam cedar debates of all time.
And we've got two clips to show you, let's go to the first one.
And remember Darrell Perry called into the
show because he wanted to debate Sam cedar.
He thought I've got this on lockdown like I got it let's see how he did.
>> We're talking about the current paradigm of
how could you own land and there are
things right now that exists when you go by land you get a deed for the land.
>> Right?
>> If you're talking about what would happen in a free society
then there would be competing agencies probably that would issue such deeds.
>> Which one would you [CROSSTALK]
>> Having me to centrally plan liberty and that's
not what I'm interested in, what I'm interested in.
>> [CROSSTALK]
>> Hold on Sam, hold on, let me finish my thought.
And if you keep trying to pick me off I will disconnect from the call.
So, if you're asking me to centrally planned
liberty, I'm not interested in centrally planning liberty.
I'm interested in promoting the idea of human freedom.
>> Okay so, wait a second.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to upset you.
I'm just trying to figure out.
>> I think you absolutely didn't mean to upset me.
>> No I
>> I think you absolutely do want to try to push me into a corner
too where you can say, see you don't have the answers of how freedom works.
Damn it Sam, nobody has all the answers on how freedom works.
That's why freedom is so important.
>> [LAUGH]
>> Look, he's passionate and it's good to be a passionate person.
>> [LAUGH] damn it Sam in this debate you're trying
to push me into a corner to prove I'm wrong.
>> [LAUGH] 100%
>> Well, that's kind of how it works
[LAUGH] and freedom nobody has held answers to freedom.
No, but nobody's asking for answers to freedom that you said that
they should record deeds, just like the record the government records deeds.
He was gonna ask you a super simple question about
consistency in your argument until you lost it about your toast.
>> [LAUGH] But no, I mean like Sam brings up a good point, right?
Which is libertarians want freedom.
They want no government interference whatsoever, but if it comes to protecting
your property or determining who owns the property how do you determine that?
He specifically says we'd have agencies.
Okay, well who gets to determine which agency
is credible and which agency is not credible?
And so, he didn't have answers to it and he freaked out.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> Who would determine an agency to record deeds?
The government would it already does that.
>> It turns out that the government actually does play an important role, even
when it comes to the issues that
libertarians care about deeply like personal property.
>> Dammit Anna you can't put freedom or my damn toaster in the corner.
You can't do it and you can't do it by a van out in the river by the river.
[LAUGH] So, I had to show you one more clip from the Sam
cedar interview, and then we'll go back to the libertarian debate of 2016.
Let's watch the Sam Cedar moment.
>> Well, I mean I think if you don't pay
your taxes to our government they'll ultimately put you in jail.
>> No, I'm asking you Sam.
What do you think should happen?
Not what does happen because we know what does happen.
What do you think?
I want you to say it?
I want you to say that I belong in jail because I don't pay taxes.
>> if you don't pay taxes to the
US government ultimately, I think you belong in jail.
>> Thank you for saying that Sam, you're a horrible despicable person.
>> [LAUGH] >> Thank you for having me on your show.
>> Daryl >> [LAUGH]
>> Daryl
>> All of a sudden I look like a >> Mental health [LAUGH] heavyweight.
>> That was Michael Brooks at the end.
>> Okay, he admits a federal crime [LAUGH] live, okay?
And then he says he should I go to jail for that crime and it seems like, yeah.
Because we all pay our taxes, why should you
be the only one who doesn't pay his tax?
>> [LAUGH] But my favorite thing is he thought it was like a got you.
>> Yeah.
>> He's like I want you to start [CROSSTALK]
>> Okay so, if I take someone and I slit their
throats open in their day, you want me to go to jail?
Say it, yeah, I wouldn't want you to go to jail.
I knew it and then he thought like he hung up triumphantly and went back to
the toaster [LAUGH] which by the way no one could stop him from toasting.
>> [LAUGH] No.
>> Okay, no one not even the government.
[CROSSTALK] >> Okay, dont you try
>> That will be the final straw.
That would be the final straw.
>> How funny would it be >> The licensed to toast [LAUGH].
>> If we trolled [LAUGH] this guy and we knocked on his door
>> [LAUGH]
>> Which by the way, definitely don't do it
>> A little scared of him [LAUGH].
[CROSSTALK] >> Of course are you kidding me?
You're not going to [LAUGH] stores I don't know.
I don't do it I'm just joking, okay?
>> [LAUGH]
>> But you're not gonna store and you're like, what is it?
>> Do not knock on his door [LAUGH].
>> [LAUGH] Don't do any of this.
[LAUGH] He's like, what is it?
[LAUGH] We came to inspect your toaster.
[LAUGH]
>> [LAUGH] Nobody cares about your toaster, okay?
[LAUGH] The government is supposed to protect us.
That has many jobs, but that is a core part of the job.
>> That's the only job [INAUDIBLE].
>> So, but you're as far as we know your toaster is not a moral danger to anyone.
[LAUGH] So, but they have trouble making easy distinctions.
The problem with libertarians is they think the world is black and white.
>> Yeah, that is the problem.
>> And but the reality is the world is very gray and filled with nuance.
And that's why it's a kind of a simplistic way of thinking about things.
But to be fair he did make one great point that
Steven Plaula and Jimmy Dore were right, don't debate Sam Cedar.
>> [LAUGH]
>> I am sure Jimmy Dore runs from
Sam Cedar like [CROSSTALK] his life depends on it.
>> But your made that mistake once he [LAUGH] got
punished for it intellectually and has never made that mistake again.
And apparently, Crowder's dad was watching [LAUGH]
maybe crowders his dad watched this too.
He's like son calling, sick you got to get out of there [LAUGH].
Do you know what Sam cedar does the toasters?
>> [LAUGH] Okay, now one final clip
from the 2016 libertarian presidential debate let's watch.
>> The president has no constitutional authority to regulate drugs.
That being said at the state level, I
would support some legislation that would stop children
from being allowed to purchase drugs and prosecute
anyone who would put a child in danger.
Because I do believe that children do need some
protection, yes you should not be able to sell heroin.
>> [APPLAUSE] >> [LAUGH]
>> [LAUGH]
>> [LAUGH] There are people in the audience booing him for wanting
regulations that prevent the sale of heroin to five year old boom.
>> [LAUGH] He said the government should be able to protect children.
Like boom get him off the stage.
What's the matter with this guy government protecting five year old's know
you get the heroin but right there in the five year old boom.
[LAUGH] Okay, I vote for the other guys toaster.
>> Okay, [LAUGH] by the way, that same guy who got booed, he
was also against driver's license if you remember in the beginning, [LAUGH] right?
>> Yeah he's against drivers license.
>> Hell no.
>> I mean it was like a lifetime ago but
I've been I've debated him, I was invited to debate him.
What was his name again?
Austin Petersen is his name yep
>> Men I don't know what happened to
the Petersons, [LAUGH] they got to rescue that name.
[LAUGH] Anyways and and Gary Johnson has been on TYT and he was on TYT.
During the 2016 elections because for legitimate candidates of any
party we give them a fair shot at on TYT.
And we actually had a fairly amiable conversation and I did
not boo them for [LAUGH] driver's licenses or dozers or anything.
We were fair but I wish I I didn't see that at the time if I
had seen that at the time, that's just one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
So, great credit to the to the twitter account that's sending those out
>> Crazy ass moments in American politics it's
full of great moments in American politics [LAUGH].
>> It's just another I mean tons and tons of them.
But one where Bernard Shaw, who is the least CNN anchor
at the time starts to debate by saying to Michael Dukakis.
Now, if your wife was raped and killed, would
you still be a guest is definitely real quick?
[CROSSTALK]
>> What are we doing like in the middle of a presidential debate?
[CROSSTALK]
>> In the beginning It was the opening question.
>> Yeah, now thank you for joining us.
And now Governor Dukakis, if your wife was gang banged
and you were cooked, how would you respond to the cooking?
[LAUGH] What do we do anyways the presidential to me.
What the hell is going on?
>> It was crazy >> That was pre Trump?
>> Yap
>> And they thought that was a perfectly like legitimate question.
>> Yeah, it was crazy by the way he handled that
question really well and explained why he's against the death penalty.
>> I actually thought he handled it really
poorly, and now we're getting on an attention, but
>> Let's not do the tension.
>> Okay, [LAUGH] alright anyways alright, we got
to go and take care of our toasters [LAUGH].
We do before the license to toast comes out you
>> [LAUGH]
>> Don't want to [CROSSTALK]
>> You never know when the government's gonna
make you drink coffee, take away your toaster.
Okay, [LAUGH] make [CROSSTALK] >> [INAUDIBLE] help your freedom works.
>> [LAUGH] >> But if you're advocating for freedom as
the libertarian candidate, shouldn't you have the answers for how freedom works?
>> [LAUGH]
>> [LAUGH] Well some folks are unstable it is what it is.
>> Yeah.
>> And that was like before the madness began and then Trump.
>> Yeah, the Trump madness in 2016 like absorbed a lot of
our attention that we missed the banger that we shared with you [LAUGH].
>> Yeah.
>> But that used to be crazy [LAUGH] now
that's like look at these nostalgic for a time when
>> So endearing.
>> Yeah, when crazy was just like an
outlier when it was a fun [CROSSTALK] little distraction.
Yeah.