Police in Loveland,
Colorado used excessive force and
were incredibly brutal toward a 73
year old woman named Karen Gardner
someone who has dementia and
who apparently forgot to pay,
a whopping $13.88 worth of
merchandise at Walmart.
So she has dementia,
she walks out of Walmart forgetting
to pay for it,
that's when the cops are involved,
the videos that we're about to
show you are incredibly disturbing.
So I want to give you that warning
but this is how cops in Loveland,
Colorado responded
to this elderly 73 year old woman.
>> Please stop.
You want to place the lights on
siren, stop, you just left Walmart,
do you need to be arrested right
now, no no ,okay let's start.
>> I'm going home.
>> Come on the ground
stay on the ground on
the ground on the ground,
lie down [INAUDIBLE] 242,
after short shargel she's
now detained, woman.
>> Why did you do that?
>> Why did you do that, I told you
to stop, you don't get act this
way, come on stay on the ground.
All right,
let's stand up,
why are you doing
this ma'am,
lie down.
>> I am not doing.
>> Right now you're resisting which
is not going to fly with me, before
that you try to steal from Walmart.
>> Wow, what a tough guy really
doing a great job there roughing up
a 73 year old woman with dementia,
the police department is now facing
a federal lawsuit,
I'll give you the details on that,
but Jank, why don't you jump in?
>> So we got a couple
more videos on this and then I want
to talk about police procedure,
I think that's the most important
thing here.
But, I wanted to comment on that
video because you saw the beginning
there don't lose track of
the beginning, I mean, my God,
he didn't try to get in front of
her and talk to her and say.
Hey, where are you going,
what happened, talk to me, etc,
he went to the rest, instantly he's
went to throwing down a 73 year
old woman who weighs 80 pounds.
Like what you saw there, one second
two seconds, how long did it take
for him to immediately go to put
handcuffs on her, hold on, do you
guys saw her, did she look well?
I don't know, I saw she didn't
look well, right, I mean, but
I only got to see her for a second
before she's on the ground, the way
she said she looked kind of dazed.
I would have wanted to talk to her
for, I don't know, 5 whole seconds,
10, 15 seconds a minute before I
ascertained, is she confused, she's
73, you could tell is she confused?
Or is she a thief that I
should throw on the ground, but
as I'll talk about more later,
we don't train our cops that way,
everything all for officer hammer.
Everything looks like nails, so
they see a frail old woman who
might have dementia and
they see a nail.
>> Look, let's just keep it real,
this is what policing mostly
focuses on like yes,
there's a racial component to it,
there's no question.
But at the end of the day cops
are not really there to protect and
serve cops are there to
protect business interests,
we saw it with occupy.
We saw it in this story because
my god, this woman forgot to pay
Walmart for
$13.88 worth of merchandise, wow,
wow, I think Walmart's going to be
okay, right, but you're right Jank.
It's just this sense of how
dare you not listen to my commands,
I'm going to rough you up now,
and it's totally justified because
whatever a cop says goes.
Doesn't matter if it's a 73 year
old woman with dementia,
doesn't matter if she looks dazed
and confused,
I know people with dementia.
I mean, that's that just watching
this video there moments where
they're childlike and defenseless
and you watch the way he's roughing
her up and proudly doing so.
In this lengthy body cam footage,
by the way on multiple occasions,
the cop says to other cops,
she's probably around 80 pounds,
she's frail, he knows but
he's still roughing her up anyway,
and by the way, the video goes on,
let's watch.
>> I'm not going anywhere.
>> Why are you fighting with me,
are you going to slip
the cuffs off?
>> I'm going home.
>> Stop.
>> I'm going home.
>> No you're not, are you finished,
are you finished, we don't play
this game, you understand me,
if you try to kick me home this
is going to be bad.
>> I'm going home.
Stop >> I'm going home.
>> Are you
finished?
>> Stand up,
we're not going to hold you.
>> [INAUDIBLE] I'm going home.
>> Why are you doing this?
[INAUDIBLE] >> I don't [INAUDIBLE]
I'm going home.
>> Yeah I know I'm strong
[INAUDIBLE] Really quick
[INAUDIBLE] >> No,
that's what [INAUDIBLE] >> So
there's no federal lawsuit against
the Loveland Colorado police
department because in the video
that you just watched, it is
alleged that the cops dislocated
her shoulder which is pretty easy
to believe because you can see how
they're roughing her up.
Gardner allegedly again left
Walmart without paying a $13
without paying $13.88 worth of
merchandise employees stopped her,
took back the items and
then refused to let her pay when
she offered her credit card.
She was unable to communicate
with them or
understand what was happening,
Gardener by the way, according to
the lawsuit Liz with dementia.
This is characterized by
the impairment of at least two
brain functions the lawsuit states,
on top of that she has sensory
aphasia.
Which they describe as an inability
to understand spoken, written or
tactile speech symbols that result
from damage to the area of
the brain concerned with language.
Austin Hop is the name of the cop
who was roughing her up there,
we do have one more video Jank
because the situation was so
brutal and violent.
That a bystander had to come up and
confront the cops about how they
were roughing up an elderly person
who by the way,
the bystander thought was literally
a child because of how tiny she is,
but Jank go ahead.
>> Yeah, before we had that video,
so, look, you notice in almost all
these videos cop videos, they blame
the victim, so they keep saying why
are you making me do this to you?
By the way it aligned and a lot of
people who've been abused will be
familiar with unfortunately.
>> Yep.
>> Always abusers tell their
victims, why are you making me do
this to you, and so I feel like
the citizenry is the people who
are being abused, the cops are the
ones that are in power situation.
And they keep saying you're
resisting, we don't play this game,
now that line right there is the
epitome of what they are taught, so
suddenly you might look at that and
go that particular cop is terrible.
I can't believe we did this,
poor woman and
I don't know how I feel about that,
I do know.
>> No he is terrible,
he should be fired immediately.
>> No, look, I think that's
an interesting question.
>> Hundred percent. Because there's
no way in the world that they
didn't teach him to do that.
>> They might have.
>> They taught him to do it.
>> But I also know that the police
force local police departments
are infiltrated with all sorts of
scum, including that guy.
>> So look, I don't know about
any of that, I don't know any
of his personal proclivities or
his politics, but guys,
the most important reason I'm
telling you that is not to defend
that particular cop.
Is to tell you you're not going to
solve the problem by firing that
cop, they train every cop that way,
so if anyone dares to
resist even 1% you break them.
It doesn't matter if you're 73
years old, the only thing that
matters is my God, they can't be
rich, if they're rich, they weren't
all in a lot of trouble,
so don't do it to rich people.
But outside of that okay, if
anybody disrespects you a tiny bit,
they don't follow your orders, and
don't give them any time,
don't give them 5 seconds.
You either shoot them dead in two
seconds, like they did to
Tamir Rice in Cleveland,
12 year old boy in a park,
right, or like this one, I mean,
you tackle her in 2 minutes, and
show her who's boss.
You tell me I don't care,
you're any cop, even if you're
the best cop in the world,
didn't teach you that in training,
yeah, they taught you that.
Don't ever let them disrespect your
orders, break them, you know it,
every cop in the country thinks
that they take sometimes good
people, oftentimes,
I hope good people,
and they train them to be monsters.
You think, okay,
here's how I can prove it,
is every cop in the country go,
I can't believe this bad apple,
I can't believe how outrageous
he treated that woman.
Guaranteed, every cop, nearly,
every continent country looks at
that video, goes,
that's what they taught us to do.
>> I think every cop looks at that
video, and anyone who might have
a problem with it, will refuse to
speak out, because if you do speak
out, you'll be retaliated against.
We've seen story after story of
cops being retaliated against,
do they explicitly train them to do
that, I don't know what I do know.
But by the way, what I know based
on what an oathkeeper just told 16
minutes over the weekend, cops are
like training oathkeepers and other
right wing militias, okay, they're
scum within the police departments.
I think it's too simplistic to say
it's the training, there's
a culture of violence, there's
a culture of protecting business
interests over the lives of people,
even when it comes down to $13.88.
And by the way, that guy thinking
he's a tough guy, that guy thinking
he's good at his job thinking he's
some sort of hero for wrestling and
brutalizing an elderly person.
Which by the way,
it's amazing to me that he's out of
breath while he's doing it, man.
>> So look.
Like maybe maybe maybe training
people to be like physically
healthy if they're going to
be police officers, but anyway, I
want to go to one more video check
before we go to your last comment.
So let's take a look at what
a bystander had to had to say,
when he witnessed the cops roughing
up this elderly woman.
>> Where's your Sergeant?
>> Where's my Sergeant?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay well, first I can tell you
that, Sergeant Metzler he's at
the police department, you can go
talk to him if you have an issue.
>> Yeah, give me your card so
I can file a report.
>> Okay. >> I see you there how you
throw the little kid.
>> Little kid?
[CROSSTALK] >> She was just walking
and I see you [INAUDIBLE] >> He
stole from Walmart and
refuse to stop, she's listening to
lawful orders and the fight me,
this is what happens when you fight
the police.
I have to use force to fate safely
to tell you that's what this, isn't
just some random act of aggression.
So the reason why he thought that
it was a little kid is because
she's tiny and frail, the lawsuit
describes Garner as just 5
feet tall, weighing just 80 pounds,
Hoppe himself.
That's the cop later on estimates
that she's between 4,10 and 5 feet
tall and weighs maybe 100 pounds.
He then told the other cop Jalali
that Garner was like 20 pounds
elsewhere, he also says that she
was a frail little thing, so why
did you need to refer up like that?
>> Yeah, so two things on how he
roughed her up one,
he probably thinks he didn't and
that's because he was trained,
and so you say it's not just
the training, it's the culture, but
that's my point.
Where did they get the culture,
they got the culture from
the training, and so it's like, but
to your point and about how they
protect business interests, and
that's the main point of the cops.
Well, I totally agree with that,
so, and the oath keepers go in and
they have cops that are apparently
training them across the country,
and is there a big drive to get to
find those cops and get them out
of the police departments?
No, on the other hand,
if there was a news story about how
couple of cops in the country
were training left-wing protesters
on how to oppose oil pipelines,
they'd be found like this.
They'd be taken out of there,
every police department would be
a natural investigation, and why,
because you got to protect property
rights more than you have
to protect human rights.
And that's also part
of the training and the culture of
policing, so by the way,
that bystander incredibly brave.
>> I know.
>> Right?
>> Yeah. >> You're going to go on
as a brown man with an accent to
a cop and tell him what he's doing
wrong, man, you got guts, brother,
so we appreciate you, okay,
now, think about defund the police.
This is the second point, one of
the things they were trying to say
is, let's take some of the money
from the police departments and
use it towards social services.
Because we're sending in hammers to
deal with things that aren't nails,
and so apparently either he sucks
at his job or the training was
awful but likely both on the issue
of spawning someone with dementia.
No one told you that if it's
an senior citizen, that they
might have an Alzheimer's issue or
a dementia issue or
some cognitive issue that never
occurred to you ma'am,
why are you making me do this?
He said 1000 times in the longer
video, I'm just trying to go home,
I'm just trying to go home,
and she's, I'm going home,
she didn't try, I'm going home,
I'm going home.
When does it occur to you that she
might have a cognitive issue,
it occurred to me in the first
second that you say, okay,
that's hindsight.
But guys, after you're watching 20
minutes of her saying,
I'm going home in a way that
clearly indicates she doesn't
understand what's happening.
It's apparent that none of the cops
got trained on any of this,
instead of saying, hey,
here's somebody that needs a social
worker, they were taught here's
someone who needs an ass kicking.
Think about how insane that is,
we got to stop teaching them that.