Please welcome Dr. Iyanla Vanzant.
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Hi, Iyanla.
Happy day!
How are you, Miss Wendy?
You look great.
Thank you very much.
So do you. (audience applauding)
Thank you. So let me see your shoes.
Bam. (harmonious harp music)
Can you see that? Uh huh.
All right, studs and zippers. Nice. Nice.
These boots were not made for walking (chuckling).
So congratulations on your seventh season.
I understand that it's your last season as well.
Yes, it's is my last season but it's in two parts,
so there'll be a part this year
and then the final remaining part will be in 2021.
But I'm done. (chuckling)
Now did you get fired or were you just unhappy?
No.
I'm not unhappy, I'm not fired,
I'm just real clear.
It's time to move on.
It's just like any other relationship.
There comes a moment when you just have to make a choice,
and I'm ready to move forward,
do some other things.
'Cause I love "Fix My Life"
but it's time for me to move on.
What are you gonna do?
What do you have planned?
I'm gonna spend the first week three months
braless and drooling, (audience laughing)
watching mindless television (chuckling),
and catch up on all the things
that I've recorded over the past seven years.
But you know what, I don't know,
but I know that I'm on arrest,
I know I'm a great grandma now,
I want to spend some time with my great grandchildren
and I just want to be.
I don't need to do, I want to be.
So Luenell was very unhappy in that episode.
She cried and we're not used to seeing Luenell cry.
I know.
What was going on?
Well, she recognized,
or her and her daughter recognized
that there was a breakdown in their relationship
and they couldn't really heal it
because they were dealing with each other
as mother and daughter.
And one of the things that I try to tell grown daughters
is you have to be an adult with your mom.
You have to see her as a woman as well as as your mother.
So we were able to do that
so that they could have woman-to-woman conversation,
which was what was required
in order for them to heal their breakdown.
But they were both great, they were both great.
It is difficult or different
to see Luenell in that vulnerable role.
And she fought me for a while
but I had to get her straight (chuckling).
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Okay.
(chuckling) You don't believe me.
I'm just saying, 'cause Luenell's my friend
and she let that episode air,
but she on her own podcast is gonna breakdown
what was really going on behind the scenes and she--
Behind the scenes of the show.
Yes, with you and her daughter and stuff.
I'm not talking,
I'm gonna let Luenell do all the talking on her podcast,
but mm hmm.
Okay, well you know what,
if she's putting it out there on the podcast
it may be something that she hasn't discussed with me,
but my experience,
my experience of her on the show
was that she and her daughter were able to
at least begin resolving their issues,
which is my job.
I come to interrupt the pattern.
I don't come to take you into happily ever after.
That's not my job and I'm real clear about that.
So now Shay Johnson,
who I believe was Bucky on "Flavor of Love", remember?
Yes.
She says that you abuse your power.
She ran away from the house,
then you brought her back, excuse me,
and she ended up going on social media immediately
and saying horrible things about you and the show
and you and you and you.
Not true.
I did not put her out, she left.
That was very clear
because I think she wasn't in control of the process
and she,
it's very clear.
We don't use a script and we tell a story
and she left on her own,
and she has her version of what happened and I have mine,
but here's the bottom line.
Every guest gives me an intention.
Her intention was to get healing for her family.
That's what she said, that's in the show.
And that's what happened.
She left but the family got the healing (chuckling).
You know who I liked on the show?
Memphis Bleek.
You made him dig his own grave and get in there
and you made him cry.
And then you offered him rehab
and then he decided he wasn't gonna go.
So it's not her problem if people don't take the healing.
I don't know what he's doing right now
but I found that show fascinating.
DMX is in a much better place now.
He was just on our show a few weeks ago.
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When you first interviewed him years ago
with his son and,
it seemed like he was on his way to healing
at that particular time.
But between then and him coming on our show
he obviously reverted back to some of his old bad habits.
He's good now, though.
He said if you ever wanted to do a sit down with him,
like right now, he'd do it.
Would you ever interview him again?
Oh no, thank you.
Why, he's asking, I mean--
Because he wants to do television
and I don't want to do television.
I don't do interviews, I do healing processes.
So he came to me
for a healing process-- Well so do we.
Well, and then in the midst of it he backed out.
So unless he had an issue
that he wanted to be supported in healing now,
there's no reason for us to have a conversation.
All right, D.
Get the issue going. (Iyanla chuckling)
Well I'm done.
I'm in the process of filming my next to last show,
so he blew that opportunity.
He's worth a sit down.
He's worth a one-hour sit down like Barbara Walters.
Okay, but I don't do interviews.
I do healing.
Well...
So what do you think about Brittany Spears?
Do you ever think that she will fix her life?
Well, I've never had a conversation with her
so it's hard for me to make an assessment.
Don't you go on the blogs?
No, absolutely not.
Were you watching "Hot Topics"?
Yes, I heard it in "Hot Topics".
I didn't even know there was a issue (chuckling).
But I think that if she does have a mental health issue
it will be hard for her to have broad enough perspective
to see that what's going on is helpful for her.
I could almost say the same thing with her,
not that Shay Johnson had a mental health issue,
but in the midst of her pain, in the midst of her presence,
it was hard for her to see the broader possibilities
for healing that unfolded.
I think the same is true of Brittany.
She may not be able to see right now the help,
the support that her father is giving her.
So it may be best that he stay as conservator for right now.
Iyanla Vanzant, everybody.
Thank you so much for being here.
"Fix My Life" airs Saturday nights at nine on OWN.
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