In the early days, well, I mean, like
three or four years ago, I mean, you could just come and see our shows
at the forum in L.A. and I guess he liked us.
And so I got to meet him and he kept coming to see us.
And then we started talking.
And
I think he would actually go out, you go and have dinner.
And I remember going to dinner with him. Nothing.
No, just as at home doesn't like coming out at all.
And that's what he said.
I mean, he just he says or whatever he wants,
he can get at home because I mean, any anything you want, he just buys it.
But have you have you talk to him about I
mean, just in terms of being an artist, in terms of a song?
Well, I mean, I like to stay in the house
like that, that kind of isolation that I know.
I mean, that's not me, but I mean, you know, or that's his bag.
And I wouldn't do that.
I mean, I'd be bored to death. I would have to go at it.
I have to go out every night.
And I hate staying in one room for too long.
Anyway, I'd just like tokeep moving.
And it's just just an individual approach.
And heI don't know.
I mean, I guess it's just
because he started when he was very young.
So I mean, when you think about it or when
I'm talking to him, I think like, oh he's 25, I'm thirty seven.
Yet he's been in the business almost
longer than I have because he started that young.
And so he's sort of quite frightening when I'm talking to somebody who was 25 and
you're seeing somebody who was twenty to twenty five has just been starting out
or whatever, and I could sort of teach him a few tricks but not Michael.
I think one of the tracks would have been
on the Thriller album if I'd finished it, but
I missed out for about three tracks,
was about a year ago and I haven't been finished.
And since then Michael Jackson's gone
and he's worked very hard and I'm not that thinks to do so.
We haven't
seen each other for about three, four months.
And whenever we have time, we'll call each other and get things sorted out.
And I could possibly be on a solo album
and it could be actually, I'd like it to be like one of the songs, to be honest.
I was initially going to be on Thriller. Can you imagine?
I blew it.
We were trying to get some stuff together and we still have
unfinished works of art in the vault,
actually, and they haven't come to fruition.
But this was one of the songs.
Well, because we haven't had time to actually sort of go back and finish
them, but to totally separate people, I would have thought,
into working together because you seem almost pulls apart as individuals.
Not so well, I guess you're right.
And I thought that maybe that is the attraction.
But I mean, in the early days,
he used to sort of like Queen and used to come and see all the concerts.
And so we became friends and he said, why don't we do something together?
This was during just before the Thriller days, actually.
And so I said, OK, we can
why don't we try something together?
So it was just me and him.
And I told her husband did about three or
four demos, you know, to see how they work out.
But I did in a very different way.
I mean, it was
the way he sang it is just so beautiful.
I just said I have to put a different approach to it.
So there was more orchestration and the way
that I wanted to do it anyway, there must be more to life.
And this was a song that I'd written
a long time ago, and it was going to be one of the Queen albums.
And for some odd reason, it just wasn't used because I'd written
something else, State of Shock, which in the end I couldn't complete.
I couldn't finish. So Mick Jagger did.
I really? Yeah, that's true.
So I actually did the vocals.
But the thing is, this is the thing.
Timing is everything, you know, and at a time when he wanted me to finish
it, I just said I can't because I was working with Queen.
I really haven't got time. I was in Munich.
He was in in Los Angeles.
And he said, look, is it OK if Mick does it?
I said, fine. So Mick did my vocals.
And so I think all that remains is that we actually wrote together and
it's a track called Victory, which then he used the title as the Jacksons album.
So it was before that.
So I mean, in a funny way, I guess that that track is frozen because
that's the only time that we actually wrote together, as it were.
And so we've got a demo, which sounds great.