- So the GTX 1650 has been released
and I've seen the reviews.
I'm yet to do my own
because the cards were sent so far after NDA was lifted
that I just haven't had time to do a proper review yet.
That'll be coming, but I did watch Bitwit's video
where he coupled it with an OEM system.
And although he had some troubles,
he did eventually get it working,
and it was an option if you're looking
to get into PC gaming.
But since 2014 and when the 750 Ti launched,
a lot of those options for sorta going with OEMs
can present problems.
There are a lot of boards out there
that just simply won't support the 750 Ti,
the 1050 Ti, or the 1650.
But since 2014 as well, things have changed big time
where a lot of people aren't even looking for an OEM system.
They're just simply too ugly,
aesthetics is playing a big role,
and honestly you can get aesthetics
for real cheap on a build nowadays,
as well as power supplies being relatively inexpensive.
Now, one thing I will critique
about the 1650 straight away though,
is where is the low profile option?
I've looked around everywhere,
and I can't see one maker that's made the thinner version
that would go in some of those OEMs
that are going out really cheap.
But today I'm gonna try and find a purpose for this card,
and that is coupling it with the recent budget combo
I got for 120 bucks.
If you guys haven't seen that video,
I'll put the link up here.
Where an actual big benefit of this system,
which had a six core Xeon,
was that it was using under 90 watts from the wall,
and also coupled it with a GTX 1660
and the performance was surprisingly really good.
So let's chuck this in,
we're also gonna chuck in an RX 570
and see what performance we can get for the wattage.
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So what we've got now is three different cards here.
Two GTX 1650s, one of them being the Galax version,
the other being the no PCIe six pin gigabyte edition too.
So if anything, we're gonna see which of these
uses lower power compared to one another.
Honestly, my bet is on the Galax card
because in the last year,
all the cards they've sent through here
have been very power-efficient.
And then we've got the RX 570,
which I picked up on a deal for 80 Aussie dollars.
This is really good value for money.
(chuckles)
Practically not gonna get much better than this
considering these are on the used market everywhere
and even brand new, they're really good price performance
and that's been the biggest detriment
to the 1650s so far,
is that this exists and the price for it
is really inexpensive.
With that aside, let's put these three cards
through this little rig right here
and see how much power they use
for what performance numbers they give out.
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So we just now finished the testing
with three different graphics cards,
testing out Apex Legends as well as Monster Hunter: World,
which from the previous video,
you guys requested that I test this
as it was CPU intensive.
And then we also tested out Shadow of the Tomb Raider,
and the numbers are as expected.
The RX 570 is coming well ahead of the GTX 1650.
It is doing so, though, on average
with about 80 to 85 watts more power consumption
depending on the benchmark.
Now the difference between the gigabyte and the Galax card
surprisingly was virtually nothing,
both across the numbers and the power consumption.
So I guess on this particular gigabyte model
with no PCIe six pin requirement,
and same with the Galax card,
they have tuned these VBIOS
for efficiency, as there are some other models out there
that do require the six pin,
and I'm guessing they use a little bit more power
than these two cards otherwise would.
Now in terms of measuring both these cards up,
they come just under 200 mil in length,
so you will need to accommodate for that.
But, one thing I can't get my head around
is just there is no low-profile option
for either of these cards.
And now with the 1050 Ti we did see that low-profile option,
and that gives us the option to then put it in
some of these Small Form Factor sleepers
as you otherwise would know 'em as,
if you put this card inside.
Because the performance is pretty decent,
I mean 1080p High Settings across
Shadows of the Tomb Raider getting 50 FPS,
and then moving over to Apex Legends,
again High Settings, getting 60 FPS
and having good 1%, .1% lows is nothing to laugh at.
As well as Monster Hunter: World playing quite well.
I mean, if you drop the settings down
to say a blend of High and Medium
on the other two titles you will get that 60 FPS figure
and you'll do so with a whole power consumption
coming under 150 watts.
So it'll pretty much run
with any single power supply out there,
and this combination, I guess the only person
it would be good for is someone who is,
maybe wants to save the environment
but has an addiction to PC gaming.
But as we can see with the numbers here,
with the RX 570 that thing is coming with more performance,
it's currently cheaper both on the new market
and the used market.
I mean with the used market,
you can pick these things up for next to nothing.
I got one for about 60 USD,
well actually got quite a few for 60 USD, not just one.
And at this price, they're phenomenal value for money
and is that 80 watts worth it?
Most gamers on average, I'd say,
would game for about three to four hours a day.
Some would game a lot more, some would game a lot less.
So I'm guessing if you're a World of Warcraft addict,
and I guess you play this game 16 hours a day,
then that power consumption could add up quite quickly
and you could save some money actually in the longterm
going with the 1650 over an RX 570,
but it would take a while.
I mean you'd have to do the math
on how much you pay for power
and where you are in the world.
But in Australia, per kilowatt-hour
it is a little bit expensive.
But again that price difference,
60 USD on the used market for an RX 570,
which is what I got it for,
versus 150 UDS on the new market for a 1650.
That's a big price difference.
And also coupled with the fact
that there's no low-profile option,
it's kinda getting a little bit hard
to see where the 1650's sorta slotting in,
because the 1650 Ti, even though it costs more,
is using GDER 6.
So in ways it's actually a more efficient card
in the total power performance arguments.
There's also the argument that Turing cores
don't perform a whole lot better than Pascal cores
and you're only getting just over 100 CUDA cores
with the 1650 versus the 1050 Ti
and you're still getting four gigabytes
of VRAM and 14 nanometer down to 12 nanometer,
so not a whole lot has changed in that time
since when the 1050 Ti was released and the 1650 came out.
So, I would've liked to have seen a bit more out
of this graphics card, but I guess we'll have to wait
for NVIDIA to drop down to seven nanometer,
as well as to see what AMD does with their Navi solution,
see if it can sort of compete watt for watt
with these performance numbers because they are pretty good,
it's just that the RX 570 at its price performance argument,
is currently offering more and that's already been out
for quite some time, so all the arguments
that you guys have heard currently,
they pretty much ring true.
And I am, although, seeing it a little bit difficult
to recommend this card unless you wanna use it
maybe as a dedicated H.265 streaming codec GPU,
which since it doesn't require the six pin power connector,
you can slot it in a spare PCIe slot
and then have it as the encoding option.
I mean, that would be an option to look into
if you're a hardcore streamer and maybe 150 USD
isn't too far out of your way
and you don't wanna upgrade to, say,
a 16 core Ryzen Threadripper or something like that.
Let me know in the comments, guys,
what you think of the 1650.
I honestly think for how long it's been
since the 1050 Ti was released and since this was released,
I am not that impressed at all.
With that said, I will be adding a lot more graphics cards
into the mix, throwing it onto the 9900K test bench,
and then giving you guys a full fledged review
for the 1650 Galax card, so stay tuned for that.
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Peace out for now.
Bye!
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