I always wondered if some of
the more vocal Trump supporters in
the entertainment industry would
later regret being so vocal, and
it looks like Stacey Dash falls
under that category.
Actor Stacey Dash, from Clueless,
of course, who happened to be
a Fox News contributor for
a hot minute, to be a hardcore
Trump supporter, says that she's
a changed woman now.
And has apologized to the American
people for
some of the offensive comments that
she's made while serving as
a contributor on Fox News.
So in 2015, for instance, she
claimed that then-president Barack
Obama didn't care about terrorism.
She also called for the elimination
of Black History Month, BET, and
the NAACP Image Awards,
made transphobic comments during
an Entertainment Tonight interview,
and defended former president
Donald Trump's very fine people
remarks in response to the deadly
Charlottesville hate rally.
Remember, that was the rally where
the white supremacist were chanting
the Jews will not replace us.
Now, in an interview
with the Daily Mail, she says that
she regrets all of that and
that she's a changed woman.
She says,
quote, I lived my life being angry,
which is what I was on Fox News.
I was the angry conservative black
woman, and at the time in my life,
it was who I was.
I realized in 2016 that anger is
unsustainable and
it will destroy you.
I made a lot of mistakes because of
that anger.
And she did apologize for
some of those awful statements that
she made when she was going
through this phase.
She says, there are things that I'm
sorry for, things that I did say,
I should not have said them
the way I said them.
They were very arrogant and
prideful and angry.
That's who Stacey Dash was, but
that's not who Stacey Dash is now.
So she said more during this
interview and based on what she was
saying, Cenk, it just became very
clear to me that she's not really,
politically aware, right?
So, and I say that because, I think
we've all noticed that there were
certain people who wanted to kind
of jump on the Trump train, not
because they're deeply political,
not because they actually followed
what he was doing and
actually liked what he was doing.
But they saw an opportunity to kind
of make a name for themselves by
going out there and supporting him.
And then so
she made that calculation,
it clearly didn't work out well for
her, and now, and she's clear about
this in the interview by the way,
she wants to spark up that acting
career again.
And she's kind of changing
her narrative to say, yeah,
I said things that were wrong.
I was going through a difficult
time in my life and
now I'm a changed person.
And she also says that January 6th
was the turning point for her.
And I'll give you her quote on that
in just a minute.
But what do you think?
>> Yeah, look, I really don't like
being judgmental, and
if someone's changed for
the better, I love it and
I want to support that.
But at the same time,
I don't want you guys to be naive.
There's a game that's being
played, right?
So every person that's flipping
is saying,
it's because of January 6th, yeah,
that was the turning point for me.
And that's what the establishment
seems really mad about that, so
I'll pretend that that
was the case.
If I'm being honest,
I don't believe her.
Why January 6th?
Because there was violence that I
didn't sign up for.
No, you signed up for everything.
I mean, she was no holds barred.
And so she admits that she thinks
she's being blacklisted in
Hollywood because of her positions
and wants a job.
So now she's changing her
positions.
Okay, well then I gotta kind of
question [LAUGH] if you're really
changing your positions, right?
And I'm going to give you a killer
quote here in a second.
But Anna, it mainly reminded me of
wrestling, in wrestling, every once
in a while, characters will flip,
Hulk Hogan will go from being
a good guy to being a bad guy.
And then he'll go flip and go back
to being a good guy, and it's just
part of the soap opera, right?
So now, there's a lot of folks,
Stacey Dash is not alone,
it's part of a trend, going,
was I being a black conservative
when it paid, when Fox News was
paying me to say trashy things
about other black people?
Well now I'm not
getting paid by Fox News,
I'm not getting paid by Hollywood.
So I'd like to go out there and
tell you that I'm now
reformed, wink.
And it's because of January
6th, wink.
I know a heel when I see one, so
I'm sorry,
but I'm a little skeptical,
to say the least.
>> It's so funny because I
empathize with you because I don't
want to be one of those people who
provides a disincentive for growth,
right?
I think that there's an issue with
the current climate we're living in
where everyone's constantly being
judged and
destroyed over old tweets and it
again provides a disincentive for
people to evolve and change.
Because if people are always
going to judge you based on
the worst actions or
the worst things that you've said,
then what's the point of growing?
No one's ever going to forgive you,
no one's ever going to believe you.
But in this case, the thing that's
kind of holding me back is that
you're right, it is a game, right?
There is a game being played.
And look, Stacey Dash, I think
overall at this point, she's
harmless and I don't want people to
be vicious to her of course.
But at the same time,
I want people like Stacey Dash,
and there are many of them,
to understand that you're playing
with people's lives when you
are a talking point machine for
hire, you get what I'm saying?
Because going on Fox News and
helping them with their narratives,
we're talking about hundreds of
thousands of people who watch those
shows live every night,
and unfortunately,
that has an impact on the culture.
And there's a very clear reason why
they reach out to people like
Stacey Dash to say awful vicious
things about the black community,
right?
I get that there's
a self-enrichment part of that, but
at some point,
people need to see beyond their own
financial interests and understand
that the grift that they're
engaging in is incredibly damaging.
Just today, I saw a clip of Dave
Rubin saying that the reason why I
haven't left California like all
my conservative friends is because
I really want to adopt children.
And California's one of those
States that's actually pretty
liberal in allowing gay couples
to adopt children.
And I mention that because when it
comes to
policies that apply to them,
that improve their lives, well,
then they're cool with it, right?
But if it's policies that improve
other people's lives and maybe
doesn't directly benefit them,
well, then California is trash and
and progressives are awful, and
stop.
It's not just about you,
we have to start thinking about our
fellow Americans, fellow people,
just people in general, I don't
even want to just say Americans.
We have to see the humanity and
others and think about how
our actions not only have an impact
on our own lives but have
an impact on society as a whole.
So that's the thing that's kind off
holding me back from pardoning her.
>> Yeah, no, no, no pardon here.
Look, so Alexi McCammond is
the person who's been in a couple
of controversies recently.
She just became editor-in-chief of
Team Vogue, and
then the staff wrote a letter
against her based on old tweets
from 10 years ago when she was 17.
No, no,
you gotta talk to her first, and
see did she have a change of heart,
can she show to you that she's had
a change of heart, and
that she's worked towards better
goals recently?
My guess is with her,
she probably can, but
I don't know enough about her.
But I don't want people to be
judgmental of something people said
when they were 17 years old,
right?.
But in the case of Stacey Dash,
she's a grown ass woman.
And she's not shown why she was
remorseful about the NAACP,
comments, etc.
She just says she is, but she said
nothing that was at all convincing
as to why she had a change of mind,
right, or a change of heart.
So it's a totally different
situation, and look, understand
how Fox News uses people.
So I've had Fox News on several
occasions reach out to me to be
a guest, but they mainly wanted to
make sure that I would not
criticize them in any way,
that they would only bring me on
to agree with them.
So when he when you see people on
Fox News, nine out of ten times,
they have agreed to the rules, and
the ground rules are,
we will only support what you're
saying and not criticize you.
That's kind of sad.
It's actually quite sad.
Not just in Stacey Dash's case, but
in other cases, but finally,
I promised you that quote,
and this is,
to me was the determinator.
She says, I'm from the hood.
Not exactly true.
She grew up in Paramus, New Jersey.
But anyway, the codes of the street
are very conservative.
If you're not a hustler,
you don't know how to hustle,
how to make your money,
you're lamb for the slaughter.
>> Telling, telling.
>> I mean, and
that's a quote she just gave.
So she's basically saying,
I did it for money before and
I'm doing it for money now.
Okay, I hear you hustler, [LAUGH]
okay, but no, no pardon at all.
>> And we want to know what you
think about this.
So we do have a poll,
should Stacey Dash be forgiven?
Go to TYT.COM/POLLS to participate.
Super straightforward, and
I'm really curious what you guys
have to say about it.