interesting the studies come out from hop pole
and you glove that 65 percent of Americans including
eighty-two percent of Republicans 66 percent
independent and BP 3 percent democrat
see the support the death penalty for people convicted of murder
those he made extremely high numbers to me a course this comes on the heel
last week the botched execution Clayton Lockett who is a Oklahoma in May
who suffered a collapse main after the injection that they gave him
didn't work and he was riding in pain before dying of a heart attack
more than 40 minutes after the procedure began to these numbers in general
seem really high do you because I twirling and capital punishment humbled
I'm actually surprised the majority of Americans are still in favor of capital
punishment and I think it kinda goes back to
the idea punitive consequences for
at per crime like murder and crime like murder serious work late unlock it did
was terrible he killed a 19-year-old woman
I he buried her alive I he was in the process and robbing her home
I mean he was convicted he was found guilty in a terrible crime
of course he should be punished severely but with that said
when you look at the numbers when you look at what our justice system was
originally supposed to be about what it was primarily supposed to be about
the death penalty doesn't make sense yes our justice system is supposed to be
punitive
but it was primarily supposed to be about rehabilitation
was primarily supposed to be about up you know
making sure that nonviolent criminals been spent time behind bars but they
would get rehabilitated people who were
violent criminals as long as it didn't involve murder would get rehabilitated
and if you were convicted of murder spend time spent her entire life behind
bars I would much rather do that
because a you're not 100 percent sure that the person has been convicted is
guilty
we have the innocence project that is exonerated multiple people
up it through DNA evidence and DNA testing that we did that story let's
meet one in 25 people
on your bro are bound to be in a state that's incredibly high
it's so incredibly high so when you look at but evidence and you look at all the
different factors that go into convicting innocent people
because the bias it by season all those other issues
the death penalty doesn't make sense and I find It really sad that the majority
of Americans are still in favor
of capital punishment yeah for the Anna is the same reason why
when you add to watch Game of Thrones the worst ecstatic to see joffe
die yeah it's a bummer that she's very bad but also because people think I'll
death penalty for the worst possible situation what if someone did this to my
mother to my sister to my brother whoever may be
yeah that person she added that quality city has a question should the worse for
the worse
among us good at that party most part say yes the proper question to ask is
are you
are you people the death penalty it means that a certain percentage
innocent people are gonna die meaning and then yup I get a lesser known
outbreaks I know rather than wait they never asked the question yeah it was a
question wrong
yeah about how we would you be able to death penalty if he knew that one in 25
the people convicted her innocent
would %um I would say no I would be babe a bit yep
there so poor at a hundred are adeptly innocent and every time they do on these
projects the willie
that a law school goes in and they try to exonerate they do
they have exonerated normal all ok it's only that's why the guy in Illinois
got shut down into criminals up in jail right now and he stopped at but maybe
that's why stop the death penalty
because he knew he was gonna go to jail we have at my
you know him the people who are for the death penalty I have to ask
why do you think it is that we don't do it up in the in the square in the public
square
why don't we have Stone Inc swelling is killin wood stoves when we do that
the reason is because we feel like it the bases are a whole whole picture
because it lowers our humanity you know when when that when you murder someone
it day it doesn't it is in a deterrent with Norman if they had the
repercussions
up the death penalty is a more violent society so what we're doing is saying
yes let's have burbank
what appealed to the darkest under Palolo Valley
a humanity instead of trying to set an example a bar to handle your problems in
a civil society
you know we're back in the dark ages were murdering people
to show that murder is wrong so again as justin and it's backwards thinking and
nobody
it said again nobody thinks it through nobody talked about correctly
the guys who don't talk about it correctly like Bill Donohue these not on
television anymore
little doubt he said let's do it into wanna we have televised executions if
we're proud
a bar justice system what we do in a secret yeah
well if you don't think it's the darkest the the dark underbelly up society
I mean is that is fascinating seventy-four percent of death penalty
proponents and 49 percent of Americans overall
say they favor the death penalty even if the person being executed
might suffer extreme pain and struggle for Brett for more than 20 minutes
before dying so that goes to the to the revenge backwater right because to the
stuff that
that where Dhabi me though
you don't your constitution with thank you I love the rug because I do not
trust but to say
when we have a discussion about our gun rights when we talk about the second
amendment don't fuck with back
right yeah with that that the priority when it comes to cruel and unusual
punishment well who cares
when it comes to the issue of torture who cares for her to come to the issue
of someone winner in pain
as they're being executed and by the way they might be in it then press OK
who cares that's not a priority that's not a part of our constitution that they
have no criminal
not now to the UK and forget they just don't think about a fortnight say that
to change who I am
just like John McCain said the reason why I am against torture it isn't
because I've then it's in
it not inspired that would be called that because we're better
then that we show how this is how we know you probably you don't go and
become a terrorist you don't you think
in dark corners where we think the rule of doesn't apply and that's exactly what
we're doing day don't care
I because they don't think it's a violation of cruel and unusual
punishment but I think it's
not cruel the thing is not unusual the thing is totally fine at this
bastard of a murderer suffer a bit longer before he died he think that's a
good thing not a bad things he can't point this thing
things out and say see that this to say about it is that a No
see how good it yes exactly and so is a toy different argument
meat we eat we have the same tendencies to so I mean we watch out
yeah but when we watch Game of Thrones again wouldn't want to copy died
many and many people in this room said you know what he died too easily that he
just after that but never more true
we all have a tennis with that as we had be very careful how we
talk with these issues because to get to the right place
need to find the right motivation the right incentives telling these people
you are you are hurting then dividing our Constitution does a poor those words
mean nothing to that Mackay
yet to talk to innocent people they're working to death by accident how much
how much money 'cause
and even then maybe make some progress but not as much as I
like to have but you know the joffrey example a
if they were showing live execution as you say I think it would turn a lot of
people
against this because the yes saw someone for 20 minutes
the botch execution and watching the the main you know and then just
riding or the electric chair when I was going and then the people have have
pride
all that horrible stuff if they saw that we actually saw that
I yeah you don't you think people just 30 return some people have your so
fucking turned on by that date
you know days to have lynchings will bring children to watch yes
the reason why we setting public executions because we don't want to
become a fucking he that what people cheering clapping they loved it
ABC what time will it happen in this country and other countries during the
French Revolution
when we're executing people by the dozens whatever when I say we I mean the
French
I they cheered because they in their minds it's just
even right right now and that would be you know with that crazy terrorist
I in parts the world when they when X ke people at the thing you know the I was
on their side
the cheer when we exclude these people here they cheer be the thing we're doing
the right thing
ship so you brought up a point earlier steve we said that
will people go 100 something happen you're cute if somebody raped your
daughter killed your life %um want the guy dead wouldn't hear what I say that
is
of course I'd won the guy dead I want the guy definitely get my
or wrong in the drive thru body what does that prove that proves that victim
shouldn't be the one
doling out the punishment enough we need to have a sober impartial person
Gill at giving up on us we do without legislators and judges
we'll let the big dumb but so because we up in traffic I want to shoot him in the
head
that doesn't mean it's alright yeah at
this thing about the numbers again he was eighty-two percent republicans
66 percent independent 53 percent a democrat
I guess I'd like to think a little better democrats but it's because we
don't have the right kinda conversations you know people just go well if he did
something horrible he should be treated Orleans never explained to them
that you know what this actually does is get you more what you don't want
yeah this kitchen wall yes to get you the schedule
the question should be how to reduce violence in america
that the quality videos by a double that penalty increase in violent
so let's get real at yeah that's what I would do that so you're right we have to
ask better questions to get better answers
and the questions they ask not what do we publish this guy who married a woman
alive
brought back in let's stedman thousand times you know that's what I would say
so they look bad questions