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>>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
I'M MEGYN KELLY.
IT IS A SPECIAL DAY HERE.
WE HAVE SOME MOMS AND DADS IN
THE AUDIENCE BECAUSE IT'S TAKE
YOUR PARENTS TO WORK DAY HERE AT
NBC.
AND GOD HELP US ALL, I'VE DONE
IT.
LINDA IS HERE, ALONG WITH PETER.
WELCOME TO YOU BOTH.
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OH, BOY.
WE'LL GET TO MY MOM IN A MINUTE.
ALSO JOINING ME, NBC'S OWN CHIEF
WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT,
HALLIE JACKSON, ALONG WITH
BROADWAY STAR, JENNA BUSH HAGER.
WE WILL EXPLAIN THAT IN A
MINUTE.
ALONG WITH MATT ISEMAN, THE
CO-HOST OF --
>> "AMERICAN NINJA WARRIOR."
>> WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH
THIS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES IS IN A DISPUTE
WITH A PORN STAR.
AND THE FIRST LADY HAS A FEUD
WITH A RAPPER BECAUSE 2018.
WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS ALL OF IT
IN A MOMENT.
HALLIE IS GOING TO GET US CAUGHT
UP.
WATCH THIS.
>> Reporter: A PRESIDENT WHO
ALMOST NEVER BACKS DOWN,
STANDING BY HIS ATTACK ON THE
APPEARANCE OF PORN STAR, STORMY
DANIELS, AFTER A JUDGE DISMISSED
DANIELS' DEFAMATION LAWSUIT
AGAINST THE PRESIDENT.
HE TRIUMPHANTLY TWEETED, GREAT,
I CAN GO AFTER HORSE FACE AND
HER THIRD-RATE LAWYER.
ASKED BY THE ASSOCIATED PRESS IF
GOING AFTER A WOMAN'S LOOK IS
APPROPRIATE, THE PRESIDENT
RESPONDED, YOU CAN TAKE IT ANY
WAY YOU WANT.
EVEN SOME OF HIS ALLIES AREN'T
TAKING IT WELL.
>> HE'S A STREET FIGHTER BUT
HE'S AMSLSO THE PRESIDENT.
I DON'T THINK THIS ELEVATES HIM
OR DOES ANYTHING GOOD FOR THE
COUNTRY.
>> Reporter: DANIELS IS FIRING
BACK.
>> I'M DONE BEING BULLIED.
>> Reporter: NOW, SHE'S
TWEETING, GAME ON, TINY,
SLAMMING THE PRESIDENT'S, QUOTE,
HATRED OF WOMEN AND LACK OF
SELF-CONTROL ON TWITTER AGAIN.
IT'S NOT CLEAR IF THIS WILL
MATTER COME THE MIDTERMS.
BUT THE PRESIDENT SAYS HE WILL
NOT ACCEPT BLAME IF REPUBLICANS
LOSE THE HOUSE.
AFTER ALL, HE POINTS OUT, HE'S
NOT ON THE BALLOT.
IN THE EAST WING, IT'S NOT
RE-ELECTION BUT A RAPPER IN THE
SPOTLIGHT, AFTER THIS FAKE
MELANIA TRUMP CREATED ANGER IN
THE FIRST LADY'S OFFICE.
T.I. TWEETING, JUST DAYS AFTER
KANYE WEST'S OVAL OFFICE VISIT,
I AIN'T KANYE.
ALONG WITH MELANIA TRUMP
LOOK-ALIKE STRIPPING OFF HER
CLOTHES.
THE FIRST LADY, WHO CALLED FOR A
BOYCOTT OF THE RAPPER, CALLS THE
PORTRAYAL DISGUSTING.
ADDING, THESE KINDS OF VULGAR
ATTACKS ONLY FURTHER THE
DIVISIVENESS AND BIAS IN OUR
COUNTRY.
THIS NEEDS TO STOP.
>> WHEN THEY TOLD YOU WOULD BE
CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT,
DID YOU IMAGINE THIS WOULD BE
THE REPORT YOU WOULD BE FILING?
>> DIDN'T THINK THIS WOULD BE
SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT, HORSE
FACE AND T.I. AND A LOOK ALIKE
MELANIA TRUMP STRIPPER.
>> AND TINY.
>> YOU HAD TO GO THERE.
>> THAT'S WHAT OUR CHIEF WHITE
HOUSE CORRESPONDENT IS REPORTING
ON BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE NEWS
IS.
>> IT IS NEWS.
YOU BROUGHT UP THE POINT, THIS
HAPPENED DURING THE CAMPAIGN.
THE INSULTS AGAINST WOMEN'S
APPEARANCE, THEY'RE NOT NEW FOR
DONALD TRUMP.
HE'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS.
AND HE STILL GOT ELECTED.
53% OF WHITE WOMAN VOTED FOR HIM
INTO OFFICE.
FOR THE PRESIDENT, THERE'S NO
RISK TO THIS.
HE'S DONE THIS AND THERE'S BEEN
NO HARM, NO FOUL.
>> CLEARLY, I'M FAMILIAR WITH
THE WAY HE TALKS ABOUT WOMEN.
BUT EVEN I FOUND IT VERY JARRING
YESTERDAY.
EVEN HAVING SEEN HIS HISTORY AND
BEING FAMILIAR WITH IT, I FOUND
IT JARRING SEEING THAT HORSE
FACE TWEET GO OUT.
I REALIZE STORMY DANIELS HAS
SUED HIM AND GIVE HIM AS GOOD AS
SHE'S GOTTEN.
SHE TALKED ABOUT THE TINY THING
BEFORE.
BUT SHE IS A PORN STAR.
HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES.
IT'S LIKE, HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN
THIS TO YOUR KIDS?
HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN --
>> REMEMBER WHEN MRS. OBAMA
SAID, WHEN THEY GO LOW, WE GO
HIGH?
I THINK -- I DIDN'T KNOW -- I'VE
BEEN BUSY.
BUT THE T.I. THING, I UNDERSTAND
WHY THE OFFICE OF THE FIRST LADY
WOULD BE DISAPOINTED.
>> TO HAVE A FAKE STRIPPER DOING
A ROUTINE.
>> I'M A FIERCE DEFENDER OF THE
CHILDREN OF PRESIDENTS.
I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE
INVOLVED IN ANY OF THIS.
AND THE OVAL OFFICE SHOULD BE A
PLACE OF RESPECT.
AND TO DO THIS, I GET WHY THEY
WOULD BE AGGRAVATED.
BUT GUESS WHAT?
IF YOU DON'T PUT OUT A TWEET, IT
WILL DIE.
NOBODY WILL TALK ABOUT IT.
WE WOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT IT
RIGHT HERE.
>> YOU THINK MIELANIA TRUMP'S
SPOKESPERSON SHOULD NOT SAY
SOMETHING.
>> WHEN THEY GO LOW, WE GO HIGH.
IGNORE IT.
>> IT'S A PHENOMENON.
IT'S CALLED THE STREISAND
EFFECT.
HER PROPERTY WAS ON GOOGLE MAPS.
AND SHE LAUNCHED A CAMPAIGN TO
GET HER PROPERTY MOVED.
AND THE CONVERSE HAPPENED AND IT
JUST EXPLODED.
EVERYBODY MADE A POINT OF
REVEALING HER LOCATION.
AND IT'S THIS THING, IF YOU WANT
SOMETHING TO GO AWAY, LIKE YOU
SAID, DON'T GIVE THE FIRE
OXYGEN.
EASIER SAID THAN DONE WITH
SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
>> I DON'T KNOW.
A LOT OF PRESIDENTS HAVE BEEN ON
"SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE."
NONE HAVE BEEN TWEETED ABOUT IT.
THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO PAY
ATTENTION, THEY DON'T GET IN THE
CONVERSATION.
>> THIS WAS AN OFFENSIVE THING
TO DO TO MELANIA TRUMP.
>> THAT WAS A FIVE-SECOND CLIP
OF A MUCH LONGER VIDEO.
>> AND SOME DEMOCRATS HAVE COME
OUT AND SAID FAMILIES ARE
SUPPOSED TO BE OFF-LIMITS.
BUT I WILL SAY, THE PEOPLE WHO
FEEL THE OPPOSITE ARE SAYING,
FOR THE FIRST LADY, THE EAST
WING, TO COME OUT AND SAY, THIS
IS THE WHITE HOUSE'S -- IT'S THE
WHITE HOUSE.
IT'S DISRESPECTFUL.
THESE VULGAR ATTACKS ONLY
FURTHER THE DIVISIVENESS IN OUR
COUNTRY.
IT'S LIKE, HAVE YOU TALKED TO
THE WEST WING AT ALL?
HE'S CALLING HIS LOVER HORSE
FACE, IN A TWEET.
>> IS THERE A SEPARATION BETWEEN
THE PERSON WHO IS ELECTED,
BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT AND THE
PRESIDENT IS ALWAYS I THINK
SUBJECT TO FAIR GAME.
YOU CAN MAKE THESE POLITICAL
ATTACKS ON HIM AND WHAT HE'S
DONE MERITS ATTACK.
BUT I THINK THAT DOESN'T MEAN
THAT HIS FAMILY SHOULD BECOME --
>> I THINK SHE SHOULD BE
OFF-LIMITS.
I WISH THEY HADN'T TWEETED BACK.
>> LET'S NOT FORGET THAT MELANIA
IS SPEARHEADING THE BE BEST
CAMPAIGN TO STOP ONLINE
BULLYING, WHILE TRUMP IS CALLING
STORMY DANIELS HORSE FACE ON
TWITTER.
>> WHAT IS STRIKING IS THE STORY
THAT WE SHOWED, BOTH THINGS
HAPPENED ON THE SAME DAY AT THE
SAME TIME.
>> THEY NEED TO TALK MORE.
>> WHAT IS THE BE BEST CAMPAIGN?
>> THEY SHOULD CHAT MORE.
>> SINCE THE BEGINNING WHEN SHE
LAUNCHED THIS CYBER BULLYING
EFFORT, SHE SAYS THINGS LIKE
PEOPLE WHO HIDE BEHIND THEIR
KEYBOARDS AND SAY MEAN THINGS
NEED TO BE HELD TO ACCOUNT.
AND SHE'S BEEN UNDER CRITICISM
FOR PUSHING THIS PLATFORM WHILE
HER HUSBAND HAS GONE OUT AND
INSULTED PEOPLE ON TWITTER.
>> THE PERPETRATOR IN CHIEF.
>> THIS IS A TIPPING POINT.
WE'RE SEEING A FUNDAMENTAL SHIFT
IN POLITICS AND MEDIA.
>> I DON'T KNOW.
>> I BELIEVE WHAT WE'RE SEEING
WITH TWITTER NOW, POLITICIANS NO
LONGER RELY ON THE MEDIA TO GET
THE MESSAGE OUT.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT
MOVING FORWARD.
POLITICIANS USE TWITTER IN A WAY
OR WHATEVER SOCIAL MEDIA
PLATFORM, TO GET A MESSAGE OUT,
FOR BETTER OR WORSE, IN THEIR
OWN WORDS.
FOR TRUMP, IT WORKED.
>> AND HIS COMMUNICATION WITH
HIS BASE IS EFFECTIVE.
HE CAN BYPASS "THE NEW YORK
TIMES."
HE CAN BYPASS THE MEDIA.
IT'S A QUESTION OF WHAT THE
MESSAGING IS.
WE KNEW WHAT WE WERE GETTING.
IT WAS DISCLOSED WHO TRUMP WAS.
>> AND BY THE WAY --
>> HE MADE THAT VERY POLITICAL.
>> I WOULD BE EMBARRASSED.
SOMETIMES MY GIRLS -- THEY DON'T
WATCH ME ON TV.
MAYBE THEY COULD.
WOULDN'T YOU BE EMBARRASSED FOR
YOUR KIDS TO WATCH THIS PROGRAM
AND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT?
>> I DON'T WANT THEM TO HEAR
THIS DISCUSSION.
>> IT'S EMBARRASSING.
>> LAST NIGHT, MY MOM AND PETER
ARE HERE.
IT'S EXTRAORDINARY TO SEE THIS.
AND MY LITTLE ONE WAS IN THE
ROOM AND I DIDN'T WANT THEM TO
I TRIED TO SPELL OUT HORSE FACE
THAT MY 9-YEAR-OLD AND
7-YEAR-OLD CAN SPELL.
>> THEY'RE LIKE, HORSE FACE?
>> MY MOM SAID -- I WAS LIKE,
TRUMP.
YOU KNOW?
NOW, THEY KNOW THAT THE
PRESIDENT HAS BEHAVED THIS WAY.
IT'S REALLY TOUGH.
>> THE OTHER THING I THINK WE'RE
GOING TO SEE, AS WE'RE SEEING
WITH KAVANAUGH, PEOPLE UNDER THE
SCRUTINY, MOVING FORWARD,
PARTICULARLY AS THE GENERATION
OF MILLENNIALS MOVE INTO
POLITICAL OFFICE, WE'RE GOING TO
FIND MORE DIRT ON THESE PEOPLE.
THE IDEA OF YOU KNOW LIKE JFK,
WHERE HIS ACTIONS WERE SWEPT
UNDER THE RUG.
THAT'S NO LONGER GOING TO
HAPPEN.
WE'RE GOING TO GET A GOOD LOOK
AT POLITICIANS AND SEE EVERYONE
IS HUMAN.
EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN MISTAKES.
WE HAVE TO JUDGE PEOPLE
UNDERSTANDING -- THESE ARE GLASS
HOUSES.
EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN FOIBLES.
IT'S A QUESTION OF WHAT ARE YOU
WILLING TO TOLERATE?
>> MITT ROMNEY, SEEMED TO ME,
CHIEF JUSTICE JOHN ROBERTS.
CERTAIN PEOPLE ARE CUT OUT OF
TAKE ON CERTAIN ROLES.
BUT THOSE ARE FEW AND FAR
BETWEEN.
I'M SURE THEY HAVE PECCADILLOS
IN THEIR PAST.
BUT GEN-X AND THE MILLENNIALS
HAVE THEM FOR ALL TO SEE.
>> PEOPLE WANT AUTHENTICITY.
THE REASON THAT THE PRESIDENT'S
SUPPORTERS LIKE HIM IS HE FELT
AUTHENTIC.
HE IS THE REAL DEAL.
AND YOU'RE SEEING THAT ALREADY
WITH THE UP-AND-COMERS IN THE
DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN
PARTIES.
>> THAT'S THE THING ABOUT OWNING
IT.
IF YOU GET CAUGHT AND YOU DENY
IT, THE COVERUP IS WORSE.
>> TRUMP DENIES HE HAS AN