Welcome to the Heavy Spoilers show I'm your host Paul and you wouldn't like me when I'm
angry.
What do you mean you don't like me anyway.
So yesterday was Disney Plus day and though most of the announcements were pretty meh
the last 15 minutes really knocked it out of the park in terms of dropping brand new
show announcements.
Thrown in with these we also got some clips that gave us our first look at Ms Marvel,
MoonKnight and She-Hulk. Throughout it we watch small snippets of Jennifer Walter's
life and also see her in what I presume is a Gamma Lab along with Smart Hulk. If you
pay close attention to the clip you'll notice that Hulks arm is fixed. If you cast your
mind back to the end of Avengers Endgame you'll remember that Bruce actually damaged it really
badly when performing the snap and this left his arm in a sling.
We then saw the character pop up again in the post credits scene of Shang-Chi and he
still had his arm in a sling but Bruce was back to his regular sized man form instead
of being the jolly green giant.
So what exactly is going on?
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Ok so there's been lots of buzz over the brand new clips and there's two things that could
be happening with Hulks Arm.
Now the first is that this is taking place post blip and it's happening after Hulk has
brought everyone back. His arm was damaged and Hulk found a way to heal himself potentially
by using the containment unit that we see in the trailer. This could definitely be possible
and though his arm was pretty badly withered and burned up doing the closing scenes of
Endgame if we look at Shang-Chi there may be a clue towards this.
Bruce's arms is in a sling and it's completely missing all the scarring that we saw Hulk
carrying at the end of Endgame so potentially he healed himself when he turned back to normal.
This would mean that if he turns back into the Hulk that his arm could be completely
repaired as having it in a sling would've done that over time.
Add to that the fact that Hulk also has a healing factor and you can kinda see how everything
falls into place and how he ends up looking like a three year old kid who's just ran in
to tell his parents he wet the bed.
However, I actually think that the fact his arm is back to normal indicates that this
show actually happens before the blip and potentially it's through this that we will
see what happened in the five years between the snap and blip.
So far Marvel haven't really dived into this territory at all and that's a pretty substantial
time in the timeline where we don't really know what went on. Sure Hayward has said things
like it was messy and everyone was desperate but on the whole we've got no actual idea
about what really happened then.
Now I just wanna kinda lay out the events as I think they happened but in order to do
that we kinda have to talk about Jennifer Walter's origin story.
So Jennifer Walters is the cousin of Bruce Banner and she was also the daughter of a
Los Angeles County Sheriff named William Morris Walters. When Bruce visited her to tell her
about how he was the Hulk she was shot and put in critical condition. Jennifer was desperate
for a blood transfusion and Bruce ended up providing some of his own due to them sharing
the same blood type.
The mobsters then arrived at the hospital to kill her once and for all and this triggered
her transformation into She-Hulk.
Now looking at the trailer there's clearly some point in which something along these
lines has happened as Bruce is helping her to deal with her transformations.
In the comics She-Hulk is way smarter than your typical version of the Hulk and she's
pretty much retained every aspect of her personality. So I'm thinking that this was done whilst
Bruce was still Smart Hulk and thus this DNA meant that she didn't flip out and turn into
a giant green rage monster.
Now if we look at the timeline of the events that could have happened I'm guessing that
after Infinity War Bruce sunk into an Incredible Sulk because as he said he lost twice. The
character lost as both the Hulk and as Bruce and thus he went into a Gamma lab and decided
to mold the two sides of his personality in order to get the best of both worlds.
You might remember that there were two deleted scenes that were cut from both Infinity War
and also Avengers Endgame that both showed this transformation in their own way.
In Infinity War Hulk was going to bust out the Hulk buster when facing off against Cull
Obsidian and we would get a scene in which Smart Hulk moved through the woods and then
Nat realised what had happened with him.
In Endgame we caught him running through some stuff on his computer and this was clearly
following on from him just nailing the transformation.
Now I believe that the lab we see in the trailer will be the Gamma lab that Bruce was talking
about and he'll be using this to help Jennifer deal with She-Hulk. They seem to be running
tests on what causes her to flip out and transform.
Judging by what we know if we put the timeline together for the Hulk I think we get the ending
of Infinity War in which Bruce says he and Hulk need to work things out. We then get
him spending time in a lab so that he can perfect both sides of his personality and
during this time he ends up saving his cousin Jennifer. Jennifer then transforms and they
then move to the lab in order to carry out tests on what's going on with her. Endgame
then happens, Bruce badly damages his arm and we then cut to the end of the Shang-Chi
trailer where he's transformed himself into a regular person.
The fact that she hulk has somewhat of a similar costume fabric wise to what Smart Hulk had
in Endgame also makes me think that he'll help to develop that too and the pair will
work together for quite a lot of it.
I don't think that all of She Hulk will take place between the blip and the snap but there
is a lot of potential here for us to have prequel elements that set things up so when
we return to the present we can see what's happening with the characters and the world.
There's also a big question mark over The Abomination who also appeared in Shang-Chi.
In the scene with him and Wong we saw them going head to head in a tournament and Wong
later paid lipservice to all the practicing that they'd been doing.
He led Abomination into a portal and we could see somewhat of a containment unit like what
Jennifer was standing in during the trailer.
So potentially Bruce either helped to build this or it might be onboard something like
the raft. I think that the arm is clearly hinting to us that elements of this show actually
take place before Endgame which will be really interesting.
I think that in the series we will see Hulk and Abomination fight at some point and that
this could make Bruce realise that he has to kinda go back to his older form in order
to be able to tackle threats like this. Recently it was announced that we are getting World
War Hulk down the line and this storyline doesn't really seem like it's something that
would fit Smart Hulk. I think for that you need a giant angry rage monster which I'm
hoping that we get.
Now moving beyond that we can also catch Jennifer in the trailer in her lawyer clothes and it
is rumoured that Matt Murdock will be appearing in the show too. This is coupled with rumours
that Kingpin will be appearing in Hawkeye as well and Feige is apparently trying to
integrate the characters from the Marvel shows into the next phase after they got the rights
to the characters back from Netflix.
I also love how there is a bit that's clearly riffing on the 70s series in which Jennifer
says don't make me angry. This is a direct nod to the Bill Bixby era and Mark Ruffalo
is even wearing clothes exactly like Bill had on.
I grew up watching reruns of that series and it was such a good series especially as back
then we didn't have the multitude of comic book shows that we have now.
I dunno what's going on here but there is potential that this is an advertisement for
her lawyer business. Bruce is also back to normal form showing that this moment likely
takes place after Endgame or potentially it's before he transformed himself into Smart Hulk.
Now this could also be Jennifer breaking the fourth wall and in her comics she's actually
able to do this.
She-Hulk knew she was in a comic book before deadpool even discovered it and the narration
that we hear over the top of the trailer could be hinting to us that they're gonna be doing
a lot of meta things in the series.
Either way I'm really excited for the series and I wanna apologise for not doing a massive
breakdown on all the announcements that came out yesterday. If I'm being honest I've had
a lot of anxiety over getting the time to cover yesterday and also the No Way Home trailer
which is meant to be dropping last week. I got the Shang-Chi breakdown out yesterday
morning and then dropped the Obi Wan one later in the day. I then started to work on a big
breakdown of all the trailers that were shown but I was just so burned out from everything
that I needed to take a step back and recharge a bit.
I often find if I do trailer breakdowns late as well that they don't really do that many
views so I tried to put a bit of a spin on this one so I wasn't just pointing out easter
eggs you'd seen a thousand times in other videos.
So yeah just thought I'd say that up top.
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