VERY MUCH, AMERICA FIRST POLICY
INSTITUTE.
APPRECIATE IT OLD FRIEND.
>>> ALL RIGHT, FOR MUCH MORE,
LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF
HAPPINESS, WE BRING IN MISS DANA
PERINO, CO-HOST OF
"AMERICA’S NEWSROOM" AND
COANCHOR OF "THE FIVE."
WE TALKED ABOUT THE BOOK.
>> THE BOOK JUST CAME OUT IN
PAPERBACK.
LARRY: FABULOUS.
>> I STILL BELIEVE EVERYTHING
WILL BE OKAY BUT FRED FLEITZ HAS
ME QUESTIONING THAT WHEN HE SAYS
WE’RE FAR AWAY FROM A PEACE DEAL
THERE.
LARRY: I THINK HE IS RIGHT.
YOU KNOW YOU CAN’T HAVE PURE
EQUITY IN LIFE.
YOUR BOOK IS SELLING LIKE
HOTCAKES.
YOU GOT A PAPER WASHING EDITION.
SO YOU’RE GOING -- PAPER BACK
EDITION.
YOU WILL HAVE MORE ROYALTIES AND
MAKE MUCH MORE THAN I DID ABOUT
MY BOOK ABOUT JFK.
I CALL THAT UNEQUAL.
>> SHOULD WE CALL THE
GOVERNMENT?
LARRY: IS IT WON’T TROUBLE ME, I
SAY IT IS UNEQUAL YOU WILL BE
WEALTHIER THAN I AM?
>> I SINCERELY DOUBT THAT,
LARRY.
YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
YOU’RE ON FOX BUSINESS.
YOU’RE ON THE NEWS CHANNEL.
LARRY: GO AHEAD.
>> WHO HAS THE MONEY.
LARRY: I WON’T TAX YOU FOR IT
BUT I WON’T HOLD IT FENCE YOU.
THE LEFT DOES.
WOKISM IS ALL ABOUT THAT.
>> I THINK WHEN YOU WERE SAYING
IN YOUR MONOLOGUE ABOUT THE
BUDGET IS A VALUE DOCUMENT, YOU
DESCRIBE WHAT YOUR VALUES ARE IN
THE DOCUMENT.
WHEN YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT
CLIMATE CHANGE AND EQUITY AND
NOT TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT
REALLY MATTER TO PEOPLE.
FOR EXAMPLE, CRIME, INFLATION,
GAS PRICES AND THE SOUTHERN
BORDER, TO.
YOU SHOW PEOPLE EXACTLY WHAT YOU
VALUE.
LARRY: 100 TIMES THEY MENTIONED
THE WORD EQUITY.
I MEAN, LIKE I SAY, I WANTED TO
WIN WIMBLEDON.
THERE IS PROBABLY A MILLION
TENNIS PLAYERS BETTER THAN ME
AROUND THE WORLD.
YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITH THAT.
WHAT IS IT ABOUT THE LEFT THEY
DON’T UNDERSTAND THAT EASY
PRINCIPLE?
EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AT THE
STARTING LINE BY LAW BUT NOT AT
THE FINISH LINE, NOT EQUAL
OUTCOMES.
WE ARE DIFFERENT.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS I ACTUALLY
DO WRITE THIS IN MY BOOK A LOT
OF YOUNG WOMAN TODAY HAVE A LOT
OF ANXIETY ABOUT THEIR CAREERS,
OKAY?
WHEN I MEET WITH THEM, I DO
MENTORING, I KNOW YOU DO A LOT
OF MENTORING, I’M STRUCK HOW
WORRIED THEY ARE ABOUT
EVERYTHING.
I REALLY WORRIED A LOT IN MY
20s.
WHEN I LOOKED BACK IN MY CAREER
I REALIZED I DIDN’T HAVE
ANYTHING TO WORK ABOUT.
WHY?
I’M AN EDUCATED AMERICAN WOMAN.
I WORKED VERY HARD.
LOVE MY FAMILY.
I’M GROUNDED.
ALL I HAD TO DECIDE TO HOW HARD
I WANT TO WORK.
SO MANY WOMEN CAME BEFORE ME TO
BREAK GLASS CEILINGS.
YOU SEE WOMAN MORE LIKELY TO GET
BETTER GRADES.
THEY’RE ALSO MAKING MORE MONEY
AS YOUNG WOMAN THAN MANY MALE
COUNTERPARTS IN MANY LOCATIONS,
CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND
THEIR PROSPECTS ARE VERY GOOD.
YOU ALREADY WON LIFE’S LOTTERY
WHEN YOU’RE HERE.
WHEN GOVERNMENT TRIES TO OVER
REACH, YOU SEE WOMEN,
INDEPENDENTS, LATINOS, BLACKS TO
SOME EXTENT PULLING AWAY FROM
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
LARRY: I DON’T WANT THE
GOVERNMENT TO PUNISH SUCCESS OF
ANY KIND.
I DON’T KNOW WHY ANYBODY, ANY
LEVEL-HEADED, INTELLIGENT PERSON
BELIEVES THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD
PUNISH SUCCESS.
THAT IS REALLY WHAT THEY’RE
DOING.
IT’S A SOCIALIST DOCTRINE.
>> IT TURNED AWAY FROM, I WOULD
LOVE TO HAVE A CAR LIKE LARRY’S,
TO I WANT LARRY’S CAR.
LARRY: OH.
RIGHT-O.
THAT IS RIGHT.
THAT IS GREAT WAY TO PUT NIGHT
THAT IS HOW MY HUSBAND EXPLAINS
SOCIALISM THAT WAY TO MY.
LARRY: I WOULD MOVE TO HAVE HIM
ON.
>> HE WOULD LOVE IT.
LARRY: LET ME GO A STEP FURTHER.
IT’S A LITTLE DIFFERENT BUT NOT
SO DIFFERENT.
YOU REMEMBER MIKE KINSLEY,
CO-HOST OF FIRING LINE.
>> REALLY THE BEST.
LARRY: I WAS A CLEVER, SMART
GUY.
HE WAS ON THE LEFT SIDE BUT NOT
CRAZY LEFT, VERY SMART FELLOW.
I’M BORROWING FROM A COLUMN
TODAY WILLIAM GHOLSTON’S COLUMN.
HERE IS WHAT KINSLEY SAID ABOUT
PRESIDENTIAL STATEMENTS AND
GAFFS.
THIS IS A GREAT FUN.
HE SAID A GAFFE, WHAT KINSLEY
WROTE A FEW YEARS AGO, A GAFFE
IS WHEN A POLITICAL LEADER TELLS
THE TRUTH, SOME OBVIOUS TRUTH HE
ISN’T SUPPOSED TO SAY.
I THINK THAT IS A FABULOUS
DEFINITION OF A GAFFE.
I WANT TO COME BACK TO THE
CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT
JOE BIDEN SAID THE OTHER DAY.
FOR GOD’S SAKES, FOR GOD SAKES,
THIS MAN CANNOT STAY IN POWER,
EUROPEANING VLADMIR PUTIN.
EVERY JUMPED AROUND AND WALKED
IT BACK.
THEY DIDN’T EXACTLY WALK IT
BACK.
HE HIMSELF SAID THAT IS MY MORAL
VIEW, THAT IS MY PERSONAL VIEW,
BUT LYKINSLY I THINK THAT IS
THE -- KINSLEY, THAT IS THE
BIDEN TRUTH.
YOU WILL PROBABLY DISAGREE, SO
FAR BIDEN HAS BEEN 14, 15 MONTHS
THE, I THINK IT IS THE BEST
SENTENCE FROM HIS PRESIDENCY.
>> IT WAS FROM THE HEART.
THE WHITE HOUSE TOOK TEN MINUTES
TO WALK BACK TO REPORTERS.
SERIOUSLY.
THERE ARE WHITE HOUSE REPORTERS
THAT HAD WALKED THE WALKBACK
FROM FIVE DIFFERENT AIDES WITHIN
TEN MINUTES.
YOU WORKED AT A WHITE HOUSE.
DO YOU THINK THE COMMUNICATIONS
TEAM WAS ABLE TO GO TO THE
PRESIDENT AFTER HIS SPEECH IN
POLAND, MR. PRESIDENT, YOU SAID
NIECE NINE WORDS, DID YOU MEAN
TO SAY THOSE, IF HE SAID YES, I
DID, YOU DEAL WITH IT.
I DON’T THINK THEY ASKED HIM.
HE IS IN A POSITION WHERE WE
HAVE THE WEEKEND PRESIDENT ON
WORLD STAGE MAYBE HE SHOULDN’T
HAVE SAID WHAT HE SAID.
THEN I THINK THEY GO A STEP
FURTHER THEY SAY HE IS SPEAKING
IN HIS PERSONAL CAPACITY.
THAT IS RIDICULOUS.
THIS IS A SPEECH ON THE WORLD
STAGE, THE MOST IMPORTANT SPEECH
SO FAR OF BIDEN’S IN POLAND, ON
THE WORLD STAGE WHERE EVERYBODY
IS WATCHING, THE ADVERSARIES,
ALLIES, MILITARY, YOUR MOMS AND
DADS AND AT THE END YOU SAY THIS
LINE, THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS HE
WAS SPEAKING IN HIS PERSONAL
CAPACITY?
YOU REMEMBER WHEN THEY SAID THAT
ABOUT ROCHELLE WALENSKY OF THE
CDC, SAID IT ABOUT THE SCHOOLS?
YOU’RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
WHEN THE BACKDROP SAYS CDC,
YOU’RE SPEAKING IN FRONT OF IT,
THAT IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL
CAPACITY.
LARRY: YOU WERE A PRESS
SECRETARY, DARN GOOD ONE.
I WORKED IN TWO ADMINISTRATIONS.
REAGAN USED TO SAY STUFF, YOU
WOULD ALWAYS GET ANONYMOUS
SOURCES WHICH WERE THE LIBERAL
REPUBLICANS, I WAS IN THE MIDDLE
OF ALL THESE ARGUMENTS WHO WOULD
TRY TO WALK IT BACK.
HE WANTED LOWER TAXES.
HE WANTED TO DEFEAT THE
SOVIET UNION.
HE SAID IT WAS EVIL EMPIRE.
>> YOU THINK DIDN’T HIS STAFF
DIDN’T WANT HIM TO SAY
MR. GORBACHEV, TEAR DOWN THIS
WALL?
LARRY: THE ENTIRE STATE
DEPARTMENT TRIED TO STOP HIM
FROM SAYING THAT.
PETER ROBINSON, THE SPEECHWRITER
SAID THAT.
THE ENTIRE STATE DEPARTMENT
DIDN’T WANT HIM TO SAY IT.
IT MAY HAVE BEEN A GAFFE, I
DON’T KNOW IF BIDEN SAID IT THE
RIGHT WAY, I DON’T KNOW IF BIDEN
HAS CREDIBILITY BUT I AGREE.
>> PRESIDENT WENT OVER TO THERE
TO SAY TO NATO’S ALLIES.
IT WAS PRETTY PITCH PERFECT.
THE AT THE END OF HE PULLED RUG
OUT FROM UNDER THEM.
YOU REMEMBER BUSH 43, AFTER
9/11, THROWING QUESTIONS AT HIM.
SADDAM HUSSEIN SAID THIS ABOUT
YOU.
HE SAYS BRING IT ON.
IT WASN’T SADDAM HUSSEIN.
IT WAS THE TALIBAN OR AL QAEDA.
HE SAID BRING IT ON.
LARRY: IT WAS FABULOUS.
>> SOME IN THE MEDIA, OH, HOW
DARE HE, SUCH A COWBOY.
EVEN MRS. BUSH SAID THE LANGUAGE
WAS A LITTLE STRONG.
YOU KNEW HE MINT IT.
HE DID MEAN IT.
HE WAS ABLE TO BACK IT UP.
LARRY: I WAS A PERSONAL FRIEND.
>> I WOULD LOVE TO COME SEE HIM,
ALWAYS SO FUN TO HAVE YOU AT THE
WHITE HOUSE.
LARRY: YOUR POINT ARE REALLY
IMPORTANT POINTS.
PRESIDENTS, THEY DON’T SPEAK
PERSONALLY.
THEY REALLY DO SPEAK AS
PRESIDENTS, OKAY?
AND I’M JUST SAYING LOOK, I’M A
BIG CRITIC OF BIDEN’S
PRESIDENCY, I’M A BIG CRITIC OF
HIS FOREIGN POLICY, I’M A BIG
CRITIC HOW HE HANDLED UKRAINE
BUT THAT ONE IN LINE, PUTIN
SHOULD NOT REMAIN IN POWER.
HECK, YEAH.
THEY SHOULDN’T WALK IT BACK.
IT WAS A GAFFE BUT REVEALED THE
TRUTH ALL I’M SAYING.
>> WHEN PRESIDENT BUSH SAID
BRING IT ON, HE COULD BACK IT
UP.
WHEN BIDEN USES THESE NINE WORDS
HE DOESN’T HAVE THE BACKUP OF
HIS TEAM.
HE HAS NOT LED THE COUNTRY TO
THIS POINT.
HE HAD NOT TALKED TO THE NATO
ALLIES OF THAT.
IF HE REALLY DID MEAN THE
RUSSIAN PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO
DECIDE THAT, HE COULD HAVE
AD-LIBBED THOSE WORDS TOO BUT HE
DIDN’T.
HE IS NOT A SENATOR ANYMORE.
WHEN YOU WERE A SENATOR SAY
ANYTHING NOTHING MATTERS.
WHEN I WAS PRESS SECRETARY I
COULD SAY THINGS NOT CAUSE A WAR
BUT WHEN YOU’RE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES EVERYTHING YOU SAY
MATTERS.
LARRY: I GOT IT.
BUT THE GAFFS TELL THE TRUTH.
I LOVE THAT.
DANA PERINO.
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