So it was just four months and you were married.
Yes it was a whirl whind.
Was that out of character for you?
Yes very much so.
Very much so.
So you weren't a whirl wind kind of girl?
No I'm still not a whirl wind kind of girl for sure.
What about him took you that far.
Did he push you?
He did not push me.
With him I felt a confidence I have never felt before.
And I felt a deep sincere love.
And I had never felt that with another relationship.
He was attracted to me.
He wanted to be with me.
And I had never had that before.
So I think I just clung on to it.
You got married what month?
December of 2011.
He has now said that he had murdered a woman.
Yes.
He had stabbed her to death. Right?
Yes. As far as I know.
You were with a person that has confessed
to murdering someone five, six years before then
at that point.
Right.
Tell me about that.
How you feel about it now.
Looking back on that time of your life.
Just complete shock.
I can't even believe it.
Because at the time I did not see a violent person at all.
I didn't see an angry person.
I didn't see any tendencies like that in him.
So just a few months after you start dating him,
you get pregnant.
You say right after you got pregnant,
you see a different side of him.
I did. Yes.
Dramatically different.
Tell me about it.
Just a couple months after we got married,
we were going to church.
We were tithing to our church.
Doing all the things I had always done,
and all of the sudden those things
made him very angry.
He was upset that he had to get ready to go to church.
And I told him you don't have to go.
But he would stand in the shower and yell
(bleep)
He was just angry about doing things that were normal.
What did you make of it at the time?
When you said don't go it's okay.
I'll go you stay home.
Right.
It didn't change.
He still got mad.
How far did the anger go?
Did he get violent with you?
Did he direct the anger at you?
At that time no.
It was a lot of shouting.
A lot of yelling.
A lot of slamming stuff.
But no he never was physically violent at that point to me.
All right.
You said he started to pull away from you.
He did.
Distanced himself.
Yes.
And that wasn't just emotionally,
he started being absent from the marriage right.
Yes.
He would not be there much?
Yes.
Where was he going?
At the time I didn't know where he was going.
I was very naive.
And I trusted him very fiercely with everything.
So you delivered the child when?
July of 2012.
Now he had been gone,
but then he shows up at the hospital.
Yes
He just pops into the delivery room.
And the delivery turned bad quickly.
I was in distress and she was struggling.
So they decided to do an emergency C-section.
And I remember looking around the room
and he was not in the room with me.
In fact one of my brothers consoled me during the time,
that I was really struggling with the epidural.
But then all of the sudden he was back in the room
and he was in there for the delivery.
And then I don't remember him being there the next day.
It was just weird.
He was in and out a lot.
Are you familiar with the term love bomb?
Love bomb, no.
Love bombing is a term sometimes used
in association with cults
and in association with really manipulative relationships
where somebody will come on to a person.
Just love 'em up.
That's why they call it love bomb.
I mean just overwhelm them with love and care.
Love you, love you, love you,
love everything about you.
Just really sweep you off your feet.
Until your feet leave the ground.
And then they flip on you.
Yeah.
And as soon as they've got ya.
As soon as you surrender your heart.
They turn on you and start to criticize everything you do.
They start to take your inventory,
Criticize you, tear you down
in every way to control you and dominate you.
Right.
Did that happen here?
Yeah explains it perfectly.
That's one of the control factors in a cult.
They make you feel welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome
and then tear you down
where you want it back so bad.
Right.
And you've lost your identity
and you want that acceptance again.
And it's a control mechanism.
Right.
Sounds very much like that's what happened here.
I did that for sure.
Now you kicked him out shortly after
your daughter was born.
So you'd had enough.
What was the trigger?
I got a phone call on his cell phone
and she was asking for Shawn.
And I said, Who is this.
And she said oh this is his friend.
And I said well I'm his wife,
what can I do.
And she said I didn't realize you were his wife.
He told me he was living with his sister
and that she had just had a baby.