How did you discover Mooji? (with subtitles)
[Cole] I just saw him on a YouTube video.
I just saw this man, I couldn't believe how clear his voice was,
and how still his presence was.
He was basically asking this guy these questions,
and there was something that he wasn't willing to compromise on.
He was so focused. He wasn't just shooting the breeze,
he wasn't having a casual conversation.
He was really pointing at something,
and he was helping this man to see something that we could prove.
You know, Mooji says, 'I am going to prove it to you'.
Not by way of belief, and not by way of convincing you,
but he was pointing this thing out,
so that it was undeniably recognisable.
I studied Zen Buddhism and this kind of thing for a while,
and I just couldn't believe that there was this man,
who was so,
just so effortlessly focused.
What is Mooji pointing to?
He asks and helps us to see something, like I said,
something that is undeniably there.
He doesn't ask for a belief,
nor for something that is for later on.
It is not even something that you can use.
It is something that you verify as yourself.
So it is, in a way, coming to know yourself, I would say.
We are studying the reality of ourself,
and we are investigating all of our ideas about who we are,
and we are really putting to the test
what we conceive to be true and what is real.
Like the Buddha, who said that all the suffering in the world
is the result of false identity, or false sense of self.
So, it's that we are suffering from something we take ourselves to be,
which really, we are not.
So the spiritual process is to uncover and come into this place
where you really are, which is very lovely,
and not in any psychological turmoil.
It is without neurosis, and it is without conflict.
So that's to discover yourself without conflict.
How have Mooji's pointings impacted your life?
The first word, and the number one thing that comes to my mind, is 'trust'.
I have deep trust in life, and I always had a love for life,
because in my relationship with God I see that He always takes care of me,
keeps a roof over my head and keeps food on my table.
But Mooji helped me to see
how life is a movement of trust itself, and of faith.
Now I'm not concerned about what is going to happen to me.
I'm not worried about my future.
I just leave everything to trust.
And I find all around me the most beautiful flowers are blooming.
Life is effortlessly natural, it is trustworthy.
What has been your experience at Monte Sahaja?
Monte Sahaja is so beautiful, because it is an intense environment,
but it is so transformative, because I feel that
the land and the environment itself don't support any lies.
It feels like the false ideas of your mind,
and the idea you have about yourself,
will not survive the terrain of Monte Sahaja.
The sun is just too hot here.
What is really your self blooms in this light.
The land and the environment just don't support untruth.
Could you share one special moment from Satsang?
I could say a million things, but just the other day at Satsang
he said this thing that really ...
I was glued into a silence for so long,
and I didn't think any emotion like this would come.
He said this thing, just a simple prayer,
he said, 'May the spirit of love and truth
become contagious again among the human family'.
This touched me so deeply, the tears poured from my eyes. [laughs]