URI MAOZ: We all kind of go around with this feeling that
we are the authors of our lives and we are in control, that I could've done otherwise.
To what extent is the conscious we are we in control?
NARRATOR: The subconscious is a force that looms large below the surface of our conscious minds,
and it's controlling our lives much more than we're aware.
MAOZ: Free will is at the basis of a lot of our social pillars.
Our legal system presumes some kind of freedom.
There are economic theories that assume that people are free to make their decisions.
So for all those things, understanding how free we are, the limits of our freedom, how easy it
is to manipulate our freedom and so on I think is important. If we understand the interplay
between conscious and unconscious, it might help us realize what we can control and what we can't.
My name is Uri Maoz, I study how the brain enables things like consciousness and free will.
INTERVIEWER:
Okay, Uri, what is free will?
MAOZ: Sure, that's easy. Generally, humans have a sense that they control themselves
and sometimes their environment more than they do. You don't try to control every contraction
of every muscle in your hand. And if you did try (laughs) to control that, well good luck to you
because if you try to concentrate exactly on how it is that you're walking, it's even hard to walk.
So there are certain places in the brain that if you stimulate there a person begins to laugh.
You ask them, "Wait, why are you laughing?" And they say, "Oh, I just remembered this
really funny joke." The brain kind of puts together some reasons for something that you did
while we think they are under our full conscious control they are not.
There is a famous experiment made in the early '80s by Benjamin Libet. The idea is that a person
is holding their hand and they're told whenever they have the urge to do so, you flex whenever
you want. However at the same time, there is this rotating dot on the screen and your job is to look
at the screen and say where the dot was when you first had the urge to move. So then you have this
weird situation, only 200 milliseconds before you move do people say, "I'm aware that I've decided
to move." But if you look into their brain, you can see something there a second before they do.
So what happens in that interval? Some kind of nefarious neuroscientist that would an electrode
on you would say, "Aha, you're about to move now." But you would not be conscious of it,
and some people interpret the Libet experiment to suggest that
all of these big important life decisions are maybe unconscious.
NARRATOR: Libet's experiment proved controversial, but inspired subsequent tests.
Dr. Maoz's own research attempted to observed the brain signals Libet measured in real time
by directly monitoring the brain of epilepsy patients.
MAOZ: We approach some of these patients and we say, "Would you please play
something like a two choice version of rock, paper, scissors? At the go signal we each
raise a hand and, let's say, if we raise the same hand, I win, if we raise different hands
you win." We had a system that was processing the whole thing in real time, and just before
we got the go signal, I got a beep in my earphones telling me which hand to raise
so I would beat the subject. We could predict them about 80% of the time. Even if we,
let's say, we don't have as much free will about raising my right or my left hand right now,
to some extent who cares? It's just, I mean, nobody's gonna take you to court because you
raise your right hand and not your left hand for no reason and for no purpose.
Now let's say that I say to you, there's a burning car and you have to decide whether
to run in and try to save your friend or not? Okay, now you're making a decision that matters.
NARRATOR: So how do you take control back from you subconscious? The trick may be found in a
fable about Ulysses, the ancient Greek warrior who while sailing home was told about the sirens.
The sirens were monsters posing as beautiful women who would sing to passing ships hoping to lure
them closer and ultimately to their death. Ulysses was warned of the sirens ahead of time and knew
that his subconscious would be unable to resist the siren songs. So Ulysses made a conscious
decision ahead of time to have his crew fill their ears with beeswax and tie him to the mast.
Ulysses and his crew sailed past the sirens unharmed.
MAOZ: You could think about this as a struggle between like the later unconscious and current
conscious because later on I will not be in a position to control myself in the way that I want
it. Neuroscience is a newcomer to the field of free will. What are exactly the kind of questions
that are worth asking? What different kinds of experiments that can say something about conscious
and unconscious decisions could help us be more modest in what we realize we can control and what
we can't, and then also be a bit more forgiving towards ourselves about our decisions and our
actions? Not everything is within our control as much as we would think or maybe even would wish.
Do I have free will depends, of course, on the definition. In the sense that the world
could go one way or another way depending on my decision, no, I don't think I have that power.
But to the extent that I can act according to my desires and my wishes,
yes, I- I think I can. I wish to be here and here I am.
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