[CHANTING IN ARABIC]
ANJEM: We are here maybe saying to you, look, there's a
better way of life.
You don't need to live like animals
following your own desires.
The big industries you see nowadays in the West are
things like gambling, pornography, alcohol, drugs,
homosexuality.
REPORTER: If you took over Britain, you'd ban alcohol?
ANJEM: Of course.
Alcohol would be banned.
Drugs would be banned.
Pornography would be banned.
Gambling would be banned.
But the money saved--
REPORTER: The Queen?
ANJEM: There'd be no monarchy.
[CHANTING IN ARABIC]
ANJEM: Yeah, we're basically, we were inundated with threats
of violence, with threats to kill and murder.
We had hundreds of them in the two weeks when we were
advertising the--
on the text, via email, on blogs.
Basically, the reality that I envisage was that Piccadilly
Circus, which is a place of rallying, would have been
occupied, and the people were planning to attack us in
Trafalgar Square.
Now, I have with me women, children, elderly.
Therefore I had no option but to relocate.
DAVE: I don't think any person with those views, no matter
what color, race, or religion he has, has the right to speak
on the street.
If I came out with half of what he said about beheading
people, et cetera, et cetera, I would be arrested for
incitement.
ABU: First of all, I believe that the British people, they
are very ignorant about the fact what is happening abroad,
even about Sheikh Osama.
If they came to actually verify with us, rather than
show an ugly face and be angry with us, they'd find that
Islam is truly something they'd like.
[INTERPOSING VOICES]
MAN 1: These are extreme Muslims.
MAN 2: No, he's a Muslim.
ANJEM: No, he's a pure Muslim.
He adheres to the Islamic text completely.
What does he do that is wrong in your eyes?
ABU: I've spoken to many of my colleagues,
for instance at work.
One instance was about the Shariah.
Where they were saying that, how barbaric chopping the
hands of the thief was.
And two weeks later, his laptop was actually stolen.
And he [INAUDIBLE], he said, I feel like killing the man,
chopping his head off.
I said, for God's sake, all we said is chop the hands off.
Don't go chopping the man's head off.
ANJEM: Shall I take you to the training camp, where we're
doing Al Qaeda training?
And where we're making nuclear weapons?
Maybe I'm doing that in my garden.
INTERVIEWER: It's underneath the football pitch.
ANJEM: It could be, it may well be, yeah.
There might be a bunker underneath the [INAUDIBLE]
Mosque.
Maybe we need to dig it up and have a look.
You don't want to believe everything that you see and
read in the media.
One of the problems of the media is that they'll
fabricate something.
And then they'll start believing it, you see?
That's quite dangerous, really.
You invent Frankenstein and Dracula, and then you start to
become afraid of it, forgetting the fact that you
invented him in the first place.
[MEN ARGUING]
ABU: My name is Abu Sumayyah from Stoke-on-Trent.
I became Muslim about five years ago now, March 5, 2005.
Basically, whatever Allah has given for us, we
are going to take.
If Allah tells us that we lash the person who doesn't pray
his prayer, we lash the person who doesn't pray his prayer.
If he tells us we stone the adulterer, we stone the
adulterer, only because our Lord told us to.
That's all.
Whatever our Lord told us, we follow.
ANJEM: [ARABIC GREETING].
We're going to eat downstairs.
I've brought some crew with me.
You don't mind, do you?
MAN 3: Have you seen this before?
MAN 4: That's the American major in the army who turned
on his colleagues.
ANJEM: Well I don't think he went crazy.
I think he woke up to his reality as a Muslim.
And he realized that [INAUDIBLE], in fact, his
so-called fallen comrades were going and occupying Muslim
land, killing innocent men, women, and children.
And it's something that he could not handle, when he
realized that he has a responsibility.
And he probably did what I think many other people may do
within the US army and the British army, even, if they
continue with their foreign policy.
It is a very severe lesson for the British and the Americans
in Afghanistan, that the Afghan
police are killing them.
And even their own comrades are killing them.
So they need to pull out.
They cannot possibly win.
I don't feel sorry at all for the non-Muslims.
Because Allah said in the Koran, he said,
[SPEAKING ARABIC].
He said, don't feel sorry for the non Muslims.
Allah destined for them not to embrace Islam.
He destined for them to die as non-Muslims.
He destined for them to go to the hellfire.
So why should I feel sorry for people who ended up like that?
MAN 5: Is that chocolate?
What, chocolate's your favorite?
MAN 4: When we're eating, at the end of it, we lick the
fingers, as the prophets did then.
And Muslim scientists have found that these three fingers
release a chemical.
And when it gets to our [INAUDIBLE] system, it helps
us digest the food.
ANJEM: Do you feel enlightened?
You're not going to look at a Muslim the same now?
INTERVIEWER: In the press you come across as
quite scary, guys.
ANJEM: I am a quite scary guy, for people who don't believe,
who believe that they can occupy our land.
And they can just discriminate against
Muslims, we're very scary.
But for those people who believe that we can live
together under divine law, we're not very
scary at all, really.
If you broke wind, that would be a natural bodily functions.
If we did, they'd have Hans Blix down here, seeing if it's
a weapon of mass destruction of some kind.
[LAUGHTER]