hey michelle what's going on what's shaking uh everything's good over here i am looking out my
window and i'm seeing bright sun and i am also seeing yeah a lot of tarp and i can tell that
the wind is blowing i've been so excited because we've had so many warmer days not really warm days
but then it's and then i get outside and it's just like wind and you're like yeah oh that's
not fun when it's warm but it's windy is that what you mean yeah yeah and i mean not that warm still
cut like and then it's like it takes it away it takes yeah we have some pretty strong wind out
here in colorado sometimes too actually oh my gosh it's crazy you know here the thing is you
i i make rookie mistakes all the time the thing about colorado weather is that it changes so fast
it could be sunny and literally i'm not joking it could be sunny and sixty and you could say
oh let's go for a walk i heard maybe it'll snow later but you know i'm sure it'll be nice for the
next hour you get out and in the middle of your walk all of a sudden the temperature is 30 degrees
20 degrees it's windy and the clouds are coming in being at this kind of yeah the high altitude means
the weather changes so you can get stuck without gloves that happened to me a few months ago my
my i had to run home with my dog i was so cold and it was funny yeah it was so crazy that is crazy
that is definitely crazy no it's certainly not like that here i feel like it's a day to
day it can be a day drastically but not no we're here in an hour half an hour it's nuts it's not
so that hourly forecast is really important that's right you gotta trust al roker then
al roker guys if you are if you're following the podcast which by the way you should hit
follow wherever you listen you'll know that we did an episode it was 1758 where we talked about
how to compare yourself or someone else to a pop culture icon or star really good episode
absolutely absolutely so uh today we are going to talk about uh examples or kind of like putting an
image in someone's mind um so a lot of times you know we say things like oh for example yeah yeah
yes right which can be kind of well it's textbook isn't it michelle it's textbook so we want to
go beyond the textbooks don't we our listeners exactly yeah exactly we often say for example but
sometimes i don't know sometimes it just doesn't sound right with what we're talking about or
it's too formal or it's it's not right somehow so um like i'm i'm thinking of like a lengthy
example like where you're almost like get going into a whole picture of something um like so not
if i say like oh for example cheese you know like cheese that you can say like for example or like
or you know something like that but this is more for like bigger things you'll see what i mean in
a minute okay so this is more you're saying that for example could get repetitive when you want to
build the contact for a story almost a big long example a little anecdote that you want to tell i
love it um we're going to get into this today how to not talk like a textbook in these moments but
actually on the ielts exam this would be really useful right because that's right don't you
think because on ielts guys speaking parts one two and three they're totally different but in
speaking part two you need to tell a story and i could see these vocabs today being very useful in
that context what do you think exactly exactly and we've definitely talked about storytelling
on the show before so definitely you know take a look at the blog put maybe storytelling into the
into a blog take a search around but um so guys we're trying to give you some some special
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and you cannot miss that if you're planning to take the ielts exam yeah awesome okay so
guys if we want to talk about a longer example perhaps a story there are useful ways to do it
because this is good for school for the business world for regular conversations as well and it's
it's a good one to kind of like get someone like oh you're about to like jump into this vision
right i like the the imagery there to jump into a vision to the vision there is something to that
michelle we need to get people prepared you can't just tell a story or give a good example and so
in passing if someone's hardly listening to you or if you're talking at someone which i'm guilty of
doing that sometimes my closest friends and people in my life i'll talk at them um bad you know you
need to set people up and actually make them want to hear it right so so how can you do it so one of
the the reason i wanted to do this episode today was because i used this first example um and it
just made it it was like oh you know that's a good way to do it so yeah not to toot my own horn but
um okay so the first one is imagine yeah yeah okay here's a sample sentence so
imagine you're trying to get your work done your phone won't stop ringing your baby won't
stop crying we have the solution okay so i was going to say this sounds very good for
pitching to venture capitalists sorry if you're trying to get money for your startup business idea
right and i think some of our listeners do have business ideas yeah infomercial selling
something this is fantastic right yeah so you might hear this on an infomercial
lindsey what is an infomercial an infomercial is what you see on tv the longer commercials but
i guess they just give you more information you see this more on like drains or like qvc right
do you ever watch shark tank you ever watched i love shark tank okay so lori is the one that has
the connections from shark tank right so let's see and everyone wants to be on qvc and so if
you turn that channel on i mean that's what you're going to get is infomercials but then
you get them on normal networks too just longer nighttime stuff yeah nighttime it's always like
a three in the morning like sometimes you know what happens is like if you fall asleep with
the tv on once yes sometime and you get up to go to the bathroom and there's an infomercial
yeah like what happened yeah yeah it could be like some humidifier or a kettle yeah random products
that you wouldn't know about otherwise but some of them are useful right sometimes who knows
yeah yeah they're very cheesy though cheesy and the music is cheesy the voices are cheesy the
images are always really cheesy i agree but wait there's more yeah but wait there's more
um so yeah but that one is useful also you know just for giving another example or painting
another picture which is actually okay the next one is let's say yes this is great so again this
is how you're unraveling the scene you're opening the scene for the person let's imagine let's say
let's say you have two apples you lose one then you find another that's exactly what i was
thinking too we're so in sync here math problems i could imagine this to like a parent explaining
algebra to their kids yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah honestly i dread the day i dress up
yes that is a scary thought like to have to teach a kid a subject that you're not good in go to
geometry i remember my dad helped me for hours every night after dinner with my geometry oh my
gosh i just i was awful at it i was like i don't get it i don't know if he felt like he was good at
it but he was the one that would help me and sit down i feel like there's always a dedicated parent
which one of you guys is it gonna be for your kids oh gosh i don't know but i'm quickly it's so funny
because i'm so terrible at actually i think i did an instagram about this somehow i'm always
fashioning things out of like i like my son wanted uh a backpack and i didn't want him like carrying
his school backpack all around because it's gross you know it's been in the you know it's just i
don't know the germs and everything so i made him a backpack out of pipe cleaners and a paper bag
and and it's so funny because i'm not the artsy one and like the other day he wanted
a different train that he doesn't have so i made it out of a toilet paper roll and i just
i i've become like kind of crafty in that weird way but dan is much more artistic and good at
making things and so he was joking like you're quickly becoming the one who's gonna be doing the
school project so i'm like no oh yeah you're going to be before you know it which i'm going to be
making that volcano right the proverbial volcano that all kids make in middle school they've got to
make it explode with all these chemistry kits and things they're good right right right so
um so we'll see um but lindsay what's the last one all right so let me paint you a picture
this is good so i'm gonna go ahead and give the example are you ready michelle i'm ready all right
let me paint you a picture we are on the beach it's 10 a.m the sun is shining it's beautiful
uh so here what how would we use this like let's say i'm trying to or you're trying to convince me
to go on a trip and we're either deciding where to go or maybe i'm not sure if i want to take
the time off and you're trying to say like oh let me paint you a picture like yes yes i love
it i love it i i could see this while trying to convince someone to go on a trip or maybe people
selling um what are those called time shares you know what i mean time shares yes
yes exactly so right you're trying to get someone to buy something or do something because you're
putting them in like that headspace where they're gonna have this image of being peaceful and yeah
yeah yeah yeah i love it so good have you ever gone i i've heard that there are these
presentations that they try to get you to and then you get i've never grease stuff yeah like drinks
but i've never gone to one because i'm really not good at um like i'll end up just buying timeshare
like i i would just you know i i'm really not good at saying no and likes and like pressure
sales situations yeah yeah yeah even like you know walking through the mall and they're like
the kiosks and sometimes people try and stop you for certain things yeah like sometimes i like walk
away like i have to like walk on the other side yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so i don't have a problem
necessarily saying no but for me i'm easily convinced if someone makes a good argument like
oh this is a great investment because in the next 20 years more investment properties
well if they do that like i'll be like oh yeah this is good we have to invest in them
that's funny yeah it's funny yeah yeah it can be tough it can be tough but guys i noticed like
there's a lot of present tense in these in these situations right oh that's a good point
let me paint you a picture we are on the beach it's 10 a.m the sun is shining a continuous
right i think like and here too like let's see uh you you lose you okay many many present tense um
because in these when you're trying to give these examples you are trying to make that
person feel like they're in the moment i mean we've talked about this before like telling
a story from the past using the present tense it just puts that person there so it's kind
of a helpful tactic i think probably in sales yeah this is all about sales but you know what
sales is so broad sales isn't just literally for making money i mean in that example about the
the parent helping the kid with math you're still selling math to your kid right if you think about
it that way you're you're selling them the ability to understand and maybe the ability to think it's
normal it's everyday it's about apples it's fun right right we're always selling in a way
which is really interesting right that's true that's very that's a very deep thought lindsay
all right let's do a roblox all right here we go so here i'm trying to convince you michelle to buy
a new phone and we're friends i actually do need a new phone and i've been putting it off for so long
me too gosh it's just you know i can't even listen to podcasts on my on my phone anymore there's no
more storage space but just doing the whole walk into a contract i don't like it the storage space
is the greatest pain for me i've had but then i got a memory card for my phone to like hold
you know because i knew a new phone was coming out anyway oh it's so it's so stressful and you
know you're just gonna wind up in the same spot in two years yeah that's how they get here getting it
i think they do that on purpose they make it so that your phone will only last x
number of years i would still have the same phone from like i don't know 2012 if i could honestly
like i don't have a problem with my phone it's just that when the storage like now it's actually
fine because anyway another story for another day all right here we go into the role play for our
listeners here we go so come on you should get it why well let's say your phone breaks you are
frustrated and you can't take any pictures of your kids yeah that's a scary thought exactly
now let me paint you a picture you already have a new phone there's tons of storage
on it the camera is amazing and you are so happy that does sound nice now a man imagine
your baby does something cute on vacation you can have all the photos you need you're right
it's you're talking to me a little like a sales person but maybe he's just dizzy right now
but as but as a friend you could be like saying like oh look come on you know you could be doing
that yeah for sure so yeah exactly so sometimes our friends are most effective sales people
right that's true word of mouth and someone just explaining why they got the phone and then you
picture yourself in that person's situation right yeah that's right that's right so let's see what
did you say you said well let's say your phone breaks and then you go into you are frustrated
and you can't take any pictures yeah exactly and then i said exactly now let me paint you a picture
right so that phrase is a little more salesy right so maybe a friend wouldn't quite set it up
exactly you know it you know maybe they'd use something like imagine instead right right
which is the next thing you the next you said imagine your baby does something cute on vacation
guys by the time this episode comes out i'll have a second child i know right like oh yeah
so yeah exactly so um and then you're trying to convince me maybe you're maybe you're like what
would your motivation be maybe you're sick of me complaining about not having storage on my
phone you know like maybe i'm always like sorry lindsay i can't take that picture like can you
take the picture for me i don't have any room you know what i mean yeah and there's also something
to we've talked about this recently on another episode how if we've discovered something that
we think is great we kind of want other people to love it too when we're talking about movies and tv
there is something there if i have the new iphone 13 and it takes these amazing videos the blurry
background i want you to know how great that is and to like that too and to value that too right
exactly yeah that's a good point so guys again maybe i wouldn't use all of these at once but it's
great just for convincing selling or showing potential problems could be for anticipating
situations um so much so definitely try these out all right good stuff all right michelle
thanks for hanging out today this has been great i will talk to you soon all right bye lindsay bye