Hi, everyone. It's me Seth Rudetsky. Ethnic last name,
We're gonna discuss that ethnic last name in one second it's Eden Espinosa who has a brand-new CD
Which I would say is Broadway tunes with a sort of a sass pop flair
I would say that
Brava. She does by the way, "I'm Not That Girl"
It's the first song now what possessed you to do that song when that's the one song that I'm irritated about because it has a low E
I just wanted to do one of the songs that not a lot of
Elphaba's have put on their album before I didn't want to do Defying Gravity
I wanted to do one that made sense out of context
What about Thank Goodness?
So many amazing songs on this you've got to get we have a thousand things to say, Eden began in California working for Disney World? Disneyland
Disneyland you wanted the role of Belle right?
I was too young and what was another reason why you didn't get Belle?
What was the one role that you wanted, the waspy role, wasn't it Belle? Or was it Ariel?
I ended up doing Ariel, but I was Pocahontas
Ok, she was Pocohontas
It was stephanie who was Belle, Stephanie Block without the J, but as far as I know, Eden Espinosa
You didn't get the role of Belle because of
Espinosa! You flat out admitted cuz you were Mexicana!
and they were like join the crew!
I've never auditioned for Belle
And what was the white, the waspy role you wanted to play where they were like not with that last name sister?
Literally on the Broadway cruise
there was- there was Ariel. No there was Ariel Broadway
I thought the reason they made you Pocahontas is because you're ethnic.
For realsies. Yeah
I would never- they wouldn't put me in those roles because I looked too ethnic even though my skin is whiter than
So you look too ethnic!
Man, it was an hour and [a] half
I'm trying to get her to admit that she was - I think she's like absolutely not. I was too ethnic
You literally just gave me the exact answer I just said! Oh my God does it work pulling teeth?
Maybe to you, but it wasn't because of my last name
(sputters) But it's the same thing!
You witnessed that so she could not be filled because she was just too ethnic last name or facce the point is they made you
Pocahontas Pocahontas is I guess Mexican okay? So we're gonna you're so busted now by the way is nothing to do with this headshot
No reason why I shouldn't get- so let us discuss this now first of all I saw Anne Hathaway as Fantine and she also
Had the same hairstyle. What's your excuse?
My God and and but listen the pixie cut was in okay
The pixie cut- at least she has hair here but
She decided for another headshot to simply not have any hair
Again the mirror has two faces the Eden has simply a face
My first ones
But if they were your first ones why were you also 52?
Exactly, that's what I'm saying. I look older than I do now too much makeup
Just too much.
Too much makeup, too little hair
Rue McCLanahan feathered
Okay
The conversations over
she's so earnest dear
Okay, so that one needs to say okay. First we need to discuss-
I'm getting sweaty too
I know I'm totally sweaty so she was Elphaba in Wicked
They're very big on like certain riffs are allowed, certain riffs are not allowed. Now whenever you said ah
What's your flexibility there um?
I could do the ones that Idina had already done because there wasn't a lot of Elphabas it was just me and Idina back then.
I mean Stephanie had done it
I used to do piano for that show and I'd walk backstage and you were watching American Idol cuz you were the standby.
A lot of sitting backstage, so just you and Idina at first
yes, so then when I would bust out on my own on
Something then I would get like "you can't do" I would- there were certain things
I couldn't do
however there was a riff that she developed in The Wizard and I. Now first of all when did you first haul it out?
How much trouble did you get in at first for that
I got in trouble
I mean Stephen Oremus came into the room
Gave me a no, like you have to make sure that it's okay with me before you do your own riffs and I said
Okay, but [I] would because I was a standby just in my dressing room
and I wanted to keep my my vocals up in case I had to go on and so I would just
Practice along with the show
with your own riffs
with my own riffs
and then what happened, someone overheard it and was like put it in the show? no. I just did it. I had big big ones
I don't know what I was thinking.I would -I didn't think -I didn't-I don't know what I was thinking
So how did the riff that you got in trouble for then become the actual way the song goes when did that transition happen?
He gave me permission
Like cause I did- that wasn't the only one that's the thing I did a lot of other ones
And he was like no no no this one. You can...this one you can keep in now
Not only was she allowed to keep it in, it is now the riff
now people do it all the time and
the
Supervisor on Broadway, Dominic said like they teach it now as like, here's an alternate
Is it called the Eden?
I don't know if it's called the Eden
It better be so this is now the riff that Eden first made up got
In trouble for and now get to do just like I'm not ethnic
I am ethnic here's so much denial with this literally the teeth pulling okay, so here we go
A celebration throughout oz that's all to do with
with me
and I'll stand there with the wizard feeling things I've never felt
How amazing is that? f-Sharp? WORK okay? Amazing you still got it
however, we were working on the Easter Bonnet competition together me and Eden and
She had an audition for Les Mis and they called her in for go
Eponine and Cosette
so I was like okay. It's not gonna happen. I was like you are Fantine
She's like... did you ask to go?
I did ask to go in and they said I was too young
did you not show them your picture?
And do they have any teeth either you can't tell?
The point is they would not see her! cut to you went to the audition and then what happened?
and then I sang my own song which I sang
Someone else's story from Chess and Cameron Mackintosh said to me. Well you're really a Fantine aren't you?
Now why am I not a famous producer when I know everything? so of course
She wound up getting cast as Fantine and then turns out it didn't work out so she actually got the part couldn't do it now
here's the inside scoop
If you don't know that- I was talking to Patti LuPone
I Dreamed a Dream normally did not move it used to go as they turn your dreams to shame
So wait,, Eponine goes um, but he never saw me there
You know in One Day More, so it didn't move. Shame. But the orchestra would do shame
So Patti was in rehearsal, and she said she thought to herself
How am I gonna sell this song? so we've got that and said what about if I
what about if I go up with the orchestra, and that's where I go shame
Very exciting however if Eden, she was cast as Fantine, she had played the role,
This is how I would have told her to perform it if I had been conducting Les Mis
It never happened, but now will happen for Obsessed! the way it should go
should we do it from but the tigers...what key is that?
But the tigers. Here it is, here we go
but the tigers come at night
with their voices soft as thunder as
They tear your hope apart
as they turn your dreams to shame
Wouldn't that have been amazing? Counteracted by this? I gots to go