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- Hi folks, I'm Bob Schrupp physical therapist.
- Brad Heineck physical therapist.
- Together, we are the most famous physical therapists
on the internet.
- In our opinion of course, Bob.
- Do you agree Sam?
- That's right big guy.
- Today we're gonna talk about shoulder pain.
Do you have mouse shoulder?
And this could be causing you pain.
And we're gonna tell you how to tell
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- Excellent.
- What are we giving away Brad?
- Bob, today we are giving away
the famous Thermotex Far Infrared Heat.
Seriously this is...
What are those hot packs that go 2.63 inches.
- [Bob] Oh yeah, we got it on-
- Yeah a typical high pack-
- typal heating system will only penetrate
this surface deep.
- [Brad] Skin deep.
This will go down into the muscle into the joint.
They're very expensive-
- [Bob] Yeah, they're pricey.
- [Brad] but that's why we're gonna give one away
and you can enjoy it.
- If you order one use our discount code
because you get quite a bit off.
I don't remember-
- 30% or-
- Yeah, something like that. I don't know.
- When you get to this age
you can't remember too much.
- You'll find out.
- Anyways, shoulder pain.
- How much?
- 30 dollars.
- I knew 30 was in there somewhere.
- Alright.
Alright, so what is mouse shoulder Brad?
We're gotta talk about this.
- Did you make this up?
- No I didn't make this up.
I found an article about it
- I don't know if this guy made it up,
he basically talks about
when you use a mouse a lot, it could be anything-
- Oh!
- That's where it came from
- the computer mouse.
I thought you were talking about
a little mouse on the ground.
- Yeah, well it could be from anything
if you have to stretch on arm.
Let's say you drive
and you always have one arm up like this.
- Yeah, at the 12 o'clock position.
- Yeah, you're gonna be stretching out
the muscles between the spine
and the shoulder blade.
What happens if you do that for hours
or days and months.
- Yeah, it becomes a habit
that you've been doing for years.
- You're going to stretch out
the rhomboids.
The other muscles that hold the scapula
this shoulder blade in place,
and that's gonna mess up your shoulder.
- [Brad] So that shifts the whole scapula this way,
not permanently but at a postural basis.
As a matter of fact
we've got a real live person here
that has issues.
- Issues (Bob chuckles)
As someone said they are well,
screwed, basically.
- Well, it's a family show.
_ What happens is
when you have a shoulder blade
that moves out further,
or even tips down like this,
the shoulder does not work right.
The shoulder actually
this is a socket.
- The shoulder joint that allows this.
- Yeah, that doesn't work right.
This forms the socket
and this is the ball.
So that ball doesn't rotate right in there
and then you can get impingement.
- [Brad] So you get rotator cuff problem
as a result of mouse shoulder blade.
- Very common. Impingement is probably
- 70%
- 70% of problems.
So you're gonna be surprised.
You're shoulder blade
may not be in the right place.
So we're gonna show you how to measure this.
Now this is something that you might need
a little help...
You will need some help
but you'll need a little bit of skill level too.
- We're gonna show you on the spine,
you're gonna find the edge
of the shoulder blade near the scapula.
You can feel this fairly well on someone.
And then the bumps down the middle
of the spice is the the middle of the spine.
You measure from there to there,
and according to Dr.Saraman.
- Shaman
- Is she a doctor?
_ I believe so.
- She wrote a whole book.
- She knows what's she's talking about.
- She's saying typically
should be very close to 3 inches
on both sides.
Which, with Sam, it is.
- [Bob] It doesn't matter
if you're 5 feet tall or 7 feet tall,
it's still suppose to be 3 inches away.
Isn't that interesting.
I still don't know if I believe that.
I'm sure it's gotta be close.
- She doesn't say things lightly, I'm sure.
- [Brad] Well, she probably
hasn't had a 7 foot tall person before.
- So if yours is 3 1/2 or 4 inches,
and especially if you're right side
or your dominate side is further out
you need to do these exercises
we're gonna show you.
We're gonna first show...
We measured Brad and he was boring.
He was 3 inches on both sides.
- I was perfect.
(Brad laughs)
(Bob laughs) You're mom-
- Yeah, turn around Bob. I wanna get to this.
- You're mom was the only one who thought that.
- Yeah, right.
So anyways, I got this tape.
Here's his middle of the spine.
Spine is fasciitis.
Now here is his left edge of the shoulder blade
and here is his right.
And now look at the difference.
But Bob has had a history.
His left shoulder, he had nerve problem.
What do you call-
- Serratus Anterior.
- [Brad] His nerve, long thoracic nerve,
actually is gone or is was not functioning.
- It stopped working and the muscle went away.
It went down to nothing. They did a test on me.
Stuck needles in me.
- [Bob] Well who cares, Bob.
Anyways, he's got a problem.
[Bob Chuckles]
- [Brad] We know that this,
it's what makes sense.
There's a discrepancy here.
- So I think it's bound down, my shoulder.
It probably doesn't work quiet-
What they told me, the neurologist told me,
is that eventually other muscles
would jump in and help and that's what happened.
Because I use to lift my arm
and my shoulder blade used to wing way out.
I couldn't even play basketball
but it eventually all the muscles took over
and helped out.
- The body will compensate a lot of things.
So what are we gonna do about this?
- So if you find out, again,
this could lead to impingement,
which can lead to tendonitis,
which lead to Bursitis, can also lead
to the muscles being stretched out.
And I'll ask you to lead to a rotator cuff care.
- That's a lot of leading.
- We're gonna show you
just two simple exercises to do.
I need a pillow Brad.
- [Bob] We're gonna show you one
that you can do it throughout the day.
- Alright.
- So the first one. Very simple to do these.
So you're going to lie on a pillow
and you put your hand on your neck like this,
and then interlace the fingers.
And you're just gonna squeeze up
your should blades together.
- [Brad] It might help to put
a rolled towel under your forehead.
- Yeah, I like doing it this way Brad
'cause I'm getting
a little strengthening up there in the upper-
- [Brad] Sure.
- In the lower neck too.
- So I can literally see,
you can't see from there, but from this angle,
you can see his scapula coming together
and you can see the tape
getting closer together.
- Yeah, I'll hold for at least a count of 5
when you come up.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
- [Brad] Ten repetitions?
- Ten repetitions. You could do more.
I mean you can- these are postural muscles
which means they're working all the time.
So they need endurance.
- Yeah, yep. I mean the first time
it might be hard.
You might find that after 5 it's uncomfortable.
- Right.
- Take your time.
- It's a great one to start really hits on it.
I would do 3 sets of 10 to start off with.
Then throughout the day what you're gonna do
is W's. That famous W's.
- W's. You can't go wrong a with W
'cause it's great for your posture.
It's great for the shoulders.
- Now you can see with the clothing there
how to squeezes together.
- Well, listen, let's see your Bob.
Because we've got you all marked up.
There, you see how the shirt wrinkles
it stretches and actually this one's sliding.
I can feel his shoulder blades going in further
then the tape is.
If we could glue your shirt to your skin
then it would be-
- [Bob] So what's happening when I do this?
- [Brad] There you go.
- [Bob] Are they both going in about the same?
- [Brad] Actually 'cause
I'm holding right on there.
The left one is going in a little more,
a little closer, you can see.
- [Bob] Sure.
- [Brad] But they're both moving.
Your body has adapted to this.
You've been doing a lot of other things
as a therapist too.
- Right, I've had it for years.
I've had a shoulder problem at one time.
I think it was this side but nothing now.
My shoulders have been great.
So if you do have mouse shoulder
it's not the end of the world.
You can work through it.
- You kill the mouse first and
(Bob chuckles)
- These exercises are great for posture
which is great for everything else.
Breathing, your appearance.
It's a win-win situation.
- The other this is you wanna mention Brad,
the thing you should do is also change
the position of your mouse.
- Mouse!
- Mouse, not mouth.
- So when your at the computer,
you're gonna want to make sure your upper arm
is vertical.
Your lower arm is horizontal.
Don't be out like this.
Be sure that you have a situation
where you can raise your screen up
but you can keep
the mouse and the keyboard down here.
- Right.
- And the same in your car.
When you're driving in a car.
Don't be driving with your arms up like this.
Keep them at the 3 and 6
or what is it.
- There's the 10, 2.
- There's the 3 and 6
- 8 and 4.
- Okay, 8 and 4.
- You read the clock thing or whatever
be a-
I know my father always drove like this.
- I could cheat on this one. Look at the clock.
(Bob and Brad laughing)
- We're digressing.
- Which way did your father drive?
- Well, he always drove it at 12 o'clock
and then he had to lift his-
I remember as a kid
he would have to lift his wrist up
to see the speedometer.
I was always wondering why he was doing that
and I started driving it's like
"You can't see how fast your going till you do that."
- Well the other thing
is they used to have those knobs.
Remember that?
That's on a tractor Bob.
- I've saw them on vehicle.
- That's a Minnesota thing.
(Bob and Brad laughing)
Nah, I know what you mean.
- Thanks everybody for watching.
(Bob Stutters)
We'll stop talking now.
(Bob and Brad laughing)
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