meantimes you keep waiting for the rise
of the establishment which you refer to
an you do have these people who in the
in the pack behind those two guys in the
establishment Lane who look as if maybe
they're ready finally to go somewhere
chris christie seems to have found his
voice in the last couple of weeks jeb
bush you gotta figure that the most well
known and the most well financed
candidate is eventually going to have a
moment maybe that starts with the debate
here this week and Marco Rubio is maybe
poet poised to explode so it feels as if
there's there's bubbling just beneath
the surface it definitely feels that way
and I think that this debate may create
or become that juncture in the campaign
largely because of the content of the
debate and we're going to be discussing
the economy and jobs and taxes and if
you look at the prior debates when the
conversation went into policy deep Trump
didn't do very well and Ben Carson
didn't do very well and the guys who
have records who know how to answer
these questions that a you know built
their careers steeped in this debate
they do quite well and so if if the
debate conversation stays in those areas
I think it is an opportunity for one of
the more experienced candidates to get a
lift and I do think we're going to have
policy heavy this this tuesday night i
think i can promise people that yes and
I'm looking for Rubio really to have his
moment of the top four candidates nice a
four because therefore in double digits
Carson Trump Rubio and Cruz Rubio was
the one who we've seen as Jean was
saying in Prior debates putting out
substance he's the one who says look the
next president has to deal with the fact
that the largest retailer in this
country amazon has no brick and mortar
stores is entirely online how do we
develop a workforce that can deal with
that kind of world he talks about
education vocational education access to
higher education in a way that you don't
hear a lot of from the other candidates
in a debate like we're going to have on
Tuesday night those that policy could
really rise and fill the room well let's
talk a little bit about what the other
candidates need to do Jean as we head
into this debate it seems to me that ben
Carson and this goes back to comments
we've been making along the way ben
Carson needs to show that he has some
substance here I think it's been policy
light for him this is not going
be an environment where you can get away
with that necessarily yes and they he
and Donald Trump keep promising things
are coming but if you look at the last
debate ben Carson struggled to answer a
question about his own tax plan he
barely got to the end of that sentence
so we got to see if he has you know
boned up and built out what his policy
proposals are going to be because as I
said up against the more experienced
guys Carson and Trump don't do well with
these conversation