>> PRESIDENT TRUMP SPEAKING THERE AT THE U.N. WITH BENJAMIN
NETANYAHU.
NETANYAHU. WE’VE GOT TO MOVE ON TO
SOMETHING I AM KEEN TO DISCUSS.
IN THE PAST YEAR A LOT HAS
CHANGED FOR WOMEN IN HOLLYWOOD,
POLITICS THE WORKPLACE AND
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
IS IT ENOUGH?
THE ME TOO MOVEMENT EMPOWERING
WOMEN IN MANY INDUSTRIES TO
SHARE THEIR EXPERIENCES OF
SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND TAKE A
STAND ENSAGAINST INEQUALITY.
A LOT HAS CHANGED.
OUR DEAR FRIEND MIKA BRZEZINSKI
DECIDED TO RERELEASE "KNOW YOUR
VALUE."
VALUE." THIS TIME SHE’S INCORPORATING
WHAT SHE HAS LEARNED FROM THE ME
TOO MOVEMENT AND THE TRUMP
PRESIDENCY.
PRESIDENCY. CO-HOST OF "MORNING JOE," MIKA
BRZEZINSKI JOINS ME NOW.
THANK YOU FOR WRITING THE BOOK
IN 2011.
IN 2011. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP,
BRINGING IT BACK NOW.
WHY NOW?
WHY NOW? >> WELL, A LOT OF REASONS.
NUMBER ONE, WE’RE IN THE AGE OF
TRUMP.
TRUMP. SO MANY WOMEN ARE STEPPING UP,
SO MANY WOMEN ARE FED UP AND
JUMPING IN.
JUMPING IN. I THINK THEY NEED THE TOOLS, THE
TIPS, THE STRATEGIES SHATHAT HAV
BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL.
WHEN THE BOOK FIRST CAME OUT I
WAS STAGGERED BY HOW MANY WOMEN
CAME UP TO ME SINCE THE BOOK
FIRST CAME OUT EVERY DAY
EVERYWHERE I GO, I READ YOUR
BOOK, I GOT A RAISE.
WOMEN FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE, I
READ YOUR BOOK, I GOT A RAISE.
I THOUGHT I WAS SHARING A FEW
LITTLE STORIES ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
WAYS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE,
WHATNOT TO DO, WHAT TO DO.
I HAD NO IDEA HOW UNIVERSAL THE
THEME WAS.
THEME WAS. SUCCESSFUL WOMEN, GETTING THERE,
DESPITE THESE ISSUES, OR WOMEN
WHO JUST DON’T KNOW HOW TO GET
IN THE DOOR, WHAT TO DO, WHAT TO
LOOK LIKE, WHAT TO FEEL LIKE,
HOW TO DO IT.
AND IT IS ACTUALLY, ONCE YOU GET
THERE, SO SIMPLE.
AND SO THAT’S WHAT I LOVE ABOUT
IT BECAUSE I LOVE TO WATCH THE
LIGHTBULB GO OFF IN WOMEN’S
HEADS AND SEE THEM TAKE
OWNERSHIP OF THIS.
BUT NOW, MORE THAN EVER, WE NEED
TO OWN OUR VOICES, WE NEED TO
USE THEM AND THEN WE THESE TO
HANDLE WHAT COMES AFTER.
>> MIKA, WHERE IS THE
DISCONNECT?
DISCONNECT? YOU WROTE THIS IN 2011.
YOU CHANGED WOMEN’S LIVES.
YET WE’RE GOING TO WATCH
CHRISTINE FORD TESTIFY TOMORROW
AND THEY’VE HAD TO TROT IN A
FEMALE SPECIAL PROSECUTOR.
>> AN ASSISTANT.
>> THEY’RE WORRIED ABOUT THE WAY
IT LOOKS.
IT LOOKS. THEY WERE NOT WORRIED ABOUT
CONTINUING TO ELECT THOSE SAME
MEN.
MEN. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT SAYING
WHY DIDN’T THE LOVING PARENTS
GET INVOLVED?
GET INVOLVED? THEY MUST HAVE BEEN DRUNK.
THAT’S NOT -- THAT SHOWS, TO ME,
ZERO PROGRESS.
ZERO PROGRESS. >> THE PRESIDENT’S DISGUSTING
COMMENTS ABOUT ONE OF THE
ACCUSERS I THINK SPEAKS FOR
ITSELF.
ITSELF. I THINK IT’S DISGUSTING.
AND I THINK MOST WOMEN TOO DO.
I DON’T KNOW WHY SOME ALLOW IT
IN THIS PRESIDENT.
BUT IN TERMS OF REPUBLICAN
LEADERS IT’S REALLY AN
INCREDIBLE MOMENT BECAUSE THIS
IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, I THINK,
APPEAL TO THE FEMALE VOTE,
ESPECIALLY WITH THE MIDTERMS
COMING UP.
COMING UP. WHY WOULDN’T YOU SAY I WANT TO
HEAR HER STORY?
WHY WOULDN’T YOU SAY I WANT TO
RESPECT HER STORY AND UNDERSTAND
IT AND I WANT TO GET THE FACTS?
WHY WOULDN’T YOU ASK FOR AN FBI
INVESTIGATION AT THIS POINT IF
YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE?
THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO IS
ACTUALLY WIN POLITICALLY BY
HAVING THESE WOMEN BE HEARD.
>> WELL, YOU KNOW WHOSE VALUE
WAS NOT HEARD TWO NIGHTS AGO?
BRETT KAVANAUGH’S WIFE WHEN SHE
WAS ASKED IN THAT FOX INTERVIEW
SHOULD THERE BE AN INVESTIGATION
TO CLEAR YOUR FAMILY’S NAME?
AND WHAT HAPPENED?
HER HUSBAND CUT HER OFF AND
ANSWERED THE QUESTION.
>> I SEE IT DIFFERENTLY.
WHAT I SAW WAS -- AND I DON’T
KNOW HER.
KNOW HER. BUT I FEEL REALLY BADLY FOR HER.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> NO MATTER WHAT THE SITUATION.
>> AND HIS DAUGHTERS.
>> AND HIS DAUGHTERS.
AND THIS IS A FAMILY THAT
POTENTIALLY COULD BE BEING
SMEARED AND CONVICTED UNFAIRLY.
WE DON’T KNOW.
SO I THINK BOTH SIDES NEED TO BE
TREATED WITH GREAT RESPECT.
BUT IN THAT MOMENT I FELT
SOMETHING PERSONAL, I SAW HER
JUST KIND OF LOOK AT HIM.
AND THAT LOOK MIGHT HAVE SAID
HELP ME, I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO
SAY.
SAY. SHE DOESN’T DO THIS FOR A
LIVING.
LIVING. THIS IS NOT HER JOB.
SHE’S NOT A FEDERAL JUDGE AND I
THINK THE QUESTION MIGHT HAVE
BEEN TOO MUCH FOR HER, MIGHT
HAVE BEEN SOMETHING SHE DOESN’T
WANT TO ANSWER.
I DON’T HAVE A JUDGMENT ON THAT.
I DON’T THINK HE JUMPED IN TO
CUT HER OFF.
LOOK AT IT AGAIN.
THERE’S A LOT MORE GOING ON, I
THINK, IN JUST ONE LOOK BETWEEN
THEM THAN POTENTIALLY WHAT
PEOPLE ARE SAYING.
>> DO YOU THINK ME TOO HAS MADE
A DIFFERENCE?
A DIFFERENCE? I KNOW YOUR BOOK --
>> YES.
>> YES. >> HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE IN SO
MANY WOMEN’S LIVES
PROFESSIONALLY.
PROFESSIONALLY. YOU’RE BRINGING IT BACK NOW.
WE TALK ABOUT ME TOO SO OFTEN.
DO YOU THINK --
>> I THINK THE TIPS AND
STRATEGIES IN THIS BOOK RESPOND
TO ME TOO PERFECTLY.
IT’S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT HAVING YOUR VOICE,
NOT APOLOGIZING, STEPPING UP FOR
YOURSELF, LEARNING TO PRESS
RESET, DIGGING DEEP, FINDING
YOUR PASSION, LEARNING TO --
WHAT THE PHYSICALITY OF
COMMUNICATING FEELS LIKE, WHAT
YOUR VOICE CONTROL SHOULD BE,
EXACTLY HOW YOU WANT TO CONNECT
WHEN YOU’RE TRYING TO MAKE A
POINT, THAT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO
WITH ME TOO.
IF YOU’RE IN A SITUATION THAT
PERHAPS YOU MIGHT BE
UNCOMFORTABLE WITH, WHAT WOMEN
HAVE DONE IN THE PAST IS HAULED
IT IN HOLD IT FOR YEARS, SUFFER,
HOW ABOUT IN REALTIME?
HOW ABOUT PUSHING BACK IN
REALTIME AND HAVING THE ABILITY,
THE STAGE AND THE WELCOME FROM
THE REST OF THE WORLD TO DO IT
IN REALTIME AND KNOW THAT THERE
WILL NOT BE ANYTHING BUT
CONSEQUENCES FOR THE PERSON WHO
MIGHT BE HARASSING YOU?
RIGHT NOW WE FEEL RAMIFICATIONS
JUST IF SOMEONE STARTS TO HARASS
US.
US. WHAT ABOUT BEING ABLE TO SAY,
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
WHY -- WHAT IS THIS?
THIS IS NOT ME.
BUT I WANT TO HAVE A MEETING,
JUST SIT DOWN, LET’S CONTINUE.
HOW ABOUT HAVING THAT VOICE IN
REALTIME?
REALTIME? AND BEING ABLE TO PRESS RESET IN
REALTIME.
REALTIME. THESE ARE THE THINGS IN THIS
BOOK THAT YOU CAN DO.
IT DOESN’T FIX ANYTHING ABOUT
THE OTHER SIDE.
AND WHERE THEY NEED TO IMPROVE.
AND I THINK IN THE AGE OF ME
TOO, MEN ARE FACING A RECKONING
WHERE THEY REALIZE BEHAVIOR THAT
HAPPENED TEN, 20, 30 YEARS AGO