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J, we have been talking about the Infinity War
so much lately, and guess what?
Today we're diving right back in.
Last week we talked about how Star-Lord, despite his like
total over the top emotional reaction, really isn't to blame
for Thanos completing the Infinity Gauntlet.
But it did get me wondering, in the event that Star-Lord
doesn't lose his mind right here and they do successfully
get the gauntlet off of Thanos, what happens next?
Would the team of Avengers still lost?
How strong in Thanos without the infinity gauntlet?
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Back to Thanos.
Bravo, my friend.
Not many people could have taken out half the galaxy
with a little bedazzled mitten,
but my question for you today is,
how powerful are you without it?
I mean the guy seems pretty powerful, it almost seems like
the only way for The Avengers to defeat him is to literally
remove the gauntlet and then actually use it against him,
right?
But even if slash when they do that, how much of a battle
should they still be expecting from Thanos?
We know, for example, that Doctor Strange basically allows
for them to lose the fight on Titan in pursuit of
the single path to victory... Maybe
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And if that's the case, we kind of have to assume that even
if they had got the Gauntlet off, it wouldn't have mattered.
Thanos apparently still would have defeated them just with
his own personal set of powers or strength,
which is kind of crazy, like just how strong is this guy?
And that becomes kind of a tough question to answer because
before infinity war, we haven't really seen him that much
in action or even at all, and by the time we see him in
Infinity War, he already has the power stone.
And I do want to be clear here that we are talking about the
MCU, the movies Thanos and not the comic book Thanos,
because even just a little bit of research shows us that
the movie version of him is like significantly watered down.
Which is crazy to say because this guy is a beast.
Comic book Thanos, for example, isn't just a member of
a species of people that already are super powerful
and have superhuman speed and powers and all that,
he was also born with superpowers within that species.
He is the most powerful, of the most powerful.
Which was information that I actually felt like,
for me personally, cleared some stuff up
because if Titans are just like this powerful as a species,
how are there not just like purple crazy people
running the entire Galaxy?
By the way, some of his comic book powers include
Shooting concussive beams out of his hands, laser vision,
being able to teleport anywhere in the galaxy,
being a master of the mystic arts, telepathy,
and owning a time machine.
Basically, all the things the Infinity Gauntlet allows him
to do in the movie are things
he was just naturally capable of.
The mitten basically just covers all of his bases.
Back to movie Thanos.
I have to say, right out of the gate, I was a little
curious as to why he is so respected
and feared by basically everyone.
I meant it, just look at Ebony Maw.
He's like right hand man, for example.
His powers seem to be off the freaking charts.
Just simply by thinking and seemingly with no effort
whatsoever, he can move and control all objects.
It seems to me that he could have given Thanos
a pretty good run for his money, right?
I mean he basically single handedly takes down
Thor and Doctor Strange.
But, so then are we to believe that Thanos is so strong
that these powers could almost have no effect on him?
Personally, I think this must be the case because
Ebony Maw doesn't exactly seem like one to hold back
on abusing his powers and he quite literally reveres Thanos.
In fact, for as big of a role as he plays in the comics,
the fact that he died so easily and so early on was almost
similar to as if somebody just came up, shot Tony Stark and
that was just the end of it, he was just dead.
Thanos, just how strong is he?
We actually end up with quite a few examples
to kind of try to figure it out from.
We find out in Guardians 1 that even without
any of the stones, he is still considered
to be the most powerful being in the Universe.
- [Korath] Thanos is the most powerful being
in the Universe.
- If this is the case though, why does it take him
so long to get to this point?
- [Thanos] Fine, I'll do it myself.
- Yeah, obviously!
Why are you trusting people like Loki and Ronan?
Once you start doing it yourself, it takes you like one day.
The answer is Asgard.
Asgard protects the nine realms, and maybe most importantly,
in need of a leader.
- [Rocket] Yeah but that place is a legend, they make the
most powerful horrific weapons to ever torment the Universe.
- And as long as the Forge was being protected
by the Asgardians, Thanos could not go there to have them
build the Infinity Gauntlet for him.
But once Asguard gets stabbed in the face
by a giant lava sword, he barely waits one day.
- [Eitri] Asgard was supposed to protect us!
- This suggests that as powerful as Thanos is,
he doesn't believe that he or his forces could take on a
fully-equipped Asgardian army.
So, at the very least, that is on limit of his power,
which is not entirely surprising.
After all, we've seen Thor almost beat him
single handedly with Stormbreaker.
And, for that matter, Thor's sister, Hela,
and his father, Odin, would both be considered
more powerful than Thor himself.
It is true that Odin says...
- [Odin] You're stronger.
- But if you ask me, I think that's just some
good ol' fashion parenting, and speaking more to his
ultimate potential than his strength inside of that moment.
Either way, when Hela returns, she does exactly what
Thanos seems to be too afraid to do,
which is defeating an entire Asgardian army.
In a way, Hela really clears the path for Thanos.
I mean, she can't return until Odin dies,
which is one key person that he can't defeat.
And then immediately shows up and defeats the entire
army that he thinks he can't defeat.
And this may actually be even more fitting than what we see
on screen, because in the comics, Thanos falls in love with
Death and is trying to woo her,
and in the movies Hela is literally the Goddess of Death.
In any case, it would appear that Thanos doesn't believe
that he is as strong as the most powerful Asgardian.
Specifically, I think we can see this with his armor.
He doesn't actually remove it until after he possesses
two of the infinity stones.
Up until he receives the Tesserack, he is wearing his armor
but as soon as he gets it, he sheds the armor
and never looks back.
So, at this point I think the only two characters that
we can argue are more powerful than Thanos without
the Gauntlet would be Odin and Hela,
who are both conveniently dead.
You could also probably argue Surtur, since he is the one
who defeats Hela and destroys all of Asgard,
but also kills himself in the process.
So with that you can maybe argue with Thor
because he defeats Surtur early on, but that's with his
hammer and we actually see Thor go up against Thanos himself
and it doesn't go super well.
And that's kind of getting toward the end of the list.
You could probably make the argument for the Hulk like
potentially being a match for him, but of course,
we literally see that fight play out
and he gets his butt kicked.
And yes, Thanos does have the power stone right here,
but he is definitely not using it against the Hulk.
And yes, we know that there is some possibility that
the Hulk is actually Loki in disguise
but we can't forget what we hear from Ebony Maw.
- [Ebony] Let him have his Fun.
- Maw, at the very least, believes that this is the Hulk
and believed that it's not going to be
any problem whatsoever for Thanos.
Maybe one of the greatest instances that demonstrates
the power of Thanos without the Gauntlet is right here when
Mantis drops in on him and tries to make him go to sleep
and he resists.
Yes, he is wearing the Gauntlet right here
but he is definitely not using it in this moment.
We do know that he has to be able to
make a fist in order to activate it.
Which, by the way, I'm totally curious
to know what your thoughts are here.
Do you think that all Avengers know that he has to close
the fist in order to activate the Gauntlet or are they just
trying to keep his hand open to like remove it?
Because either way it seems like a happy coincidence that
like that's their objective here.
I don't know, leave your thoughts down below.
Either way, the fact that Mantis can't do this here
says a lot because at the end of Guardians 2,
we literally see her use this exact same trick
to make an entire planet go to sleep.
Planet!
That's planet With a P!
And by planet, I mean a celestial.
A nearly one of a kind entity that's trying to wipe out
all of life in the entire Universe.
Although, maybe this shouldn't be such a surprise after all,
I mean we do see Thanos physically handle the
Infinity Stones with no problems whatsoever.
While Quill, who is also celestial or at least half,
is barely able to handle one at a time and ultimately needs
to recruit others to help him handle it.
And one of those three is Gamora,
who was built slash trained by Thanos himself.
So without the Gauntlet, I think we can safely say
that Thanos is the strongest being left in the galaxy,
except for maybe Thor with Strombreaker.
Which yes, also means that what I'm suggesting is that
Thor is absolutely the most powerful of The Avengers...
Except for maybe Captain Marvel, we haven't seen her yet.
Basically, anyone who might have been able to defeat him
prior to having the Gauntlet would be Odin, Hela,
an Asgardian army or Surtur,
who all basically destroyed one another.
The events of Ragnarok could not have
worked out better for Thanos.
And now with the Infinity Gauntlet,
he basically seems invincible.
Except for maybe one thing...
Sharp objects.
- I can't tell if you're joking or not.
- Yeah, I'm serious!
While it seems more likely that they'll some how remove
the Gauntlet and use that against them,
it does seem like Thanos has one glaring weakness...
to pointy objects.
Seriously, what even was the point of all of that armor?
Like we see him take all sorts of blunt force trauma
and blaster shots with seemingly no repercussions at all.
- [Thanos] All that for a drop of blood?
- But on the other hand, anyone who has any experience
whatsoever with Thanos all seem to attack him
with the same things.
When Loki tries to pull a fast one on him, he literally
pulls out a dagger and tries to go for the throat
and Thanos stops him.
Wouldn't it have been so much more a demonstration of his
powers to let the blade go right across him
and then kill him, proving that even that can't harm him?
But no, he stops it.
He's concerned about it.
When Gamora, his daughter, who he trained,
tries to go after him, she also uses a knife or a dagger
and we even see it work to some degree.
Yes, this is all just the delusion caused by
the reality stone, but either way,
she doesn't seem surprised by the end result.
It seems like she knew that stabbing him would work.
When Nebula, also his daughter, arrives on Titan,
she too brings a sword to a mitten fight.
Actually, you know what, it's more of a zappy baton
thing to a mitten fight.
Jeez, Nebula, can you even do anything right?
This is clearly why Gamora's his favorite.
- [Nebula] Thanks, dad.
- Regardless, there's also Drax,
which is kind of a problem for the writers
because he's always using these giant dagger-things.
No problem, though, we'll just make sure that he hits him
when Thanos is heavily protected, his boots.
Awfully convenient.
Strange almost gets it right and uses his magic sword thing,
but alas, his magic just poofs.
Tony goes for it twice with mixed results.
The first time, Thanos is so worried about it
that he actually throws a moon at him.
And the next time he just literally takes the blade from
Tony in a scene that makes my stomach suck in
every single time I see it.
And then of course, finally, Thor hits him in his not head
with Stormbreaker and easily penetrates his skin.
As I was saying that, penetrates his skin seems like
he like kind of gave him a boo-boo.
He like literally cuts his chest cavity open.
All that for a...
Nope, nope.
You got me.
You got me pretty good.
So, to review.
Without the Gauntlet, yes, Thanos is one of the
most powerful creatures in the Galaxy but over the course of
a few days, the only people capable of defeating him seem to
all be destroyed kind of by each other.
But then with all of them out of the way,
he takes the opportunity to grab the most powerful object
in the entire Galaxy and basically becomes invincible.
Unless you poke him with a knife.
Or a really really big axe right to the chest cavity.
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I highly recommend you check it out.
And guys, for my question of the day, what do you think?
How will The Avengers ultimately take down Thanos?
Is it just gonna be a mere flesh wound?
Leave all of your thoughts in the
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