>>A 30-YEAR-OLD
WOMAN JUST ENDED HER FOUR YEAR BATTLE WITH THE NATIONAL
HEALTH SERVICE IN THE UK FOR THE RIGHT TO GET STERILIZED.
HOLLY BROCKWELL WAS 26
YEARS OLD WHEN SHE FIRST WENT TO DOCTORS TO LET THEM KNOW
SHE DID NOT WANT CHILDREN AND WANTED TO GET HER TUBES TIED.
IT TURNS OUT THAT MOST DOCTORS TURNED HER AWAY.
AS A RESULT, SHE HAD TO KEEP FIGHTING UNTIL SHE WON.
IT'S INCREDIBLE THAT WHEN YOU ARE IN YOUR 20S
AND YOU ARE A WOMAN THERE IS AN ASSUMPTION THAT WHEN YOU SAY YOU
DON'T WANT KIDS THAT YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WHAT WAS AMAZING TO ME WAS THE REACTION SHE GOT FROM
PEOPLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
PEOPLE CENTERED DEATH THREATS, THEY CRITICIZED HER.
>> SINCE YOU ARE CONSIDERING BRINGING NO LIFE INTO THE
WORLD I WILL MURDER YOU.
I AM PRETTY SURE THAT IS NOT A PRO-LIFE POSITION.
>>
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE KIDS, IT HAS NO IMPACT ON MY LIFE.
>>WHY DO YOU CARE?
SHE IS NOT EVEN PREGNANT.
THEY WERE LIKE NO, YOU MUST GO GET SOME DICK, GET LAID,
GET PREGNANT, AND THEN HAVE THE KID.
YOU MUST DO ALL OF THAT.
SOMEBODY'S GETTING PREGNANT TONIGHT.
>>I THINK IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE IDEA THAT
TRADITIONAL ROLES FOR WOMEN NEED TO BE PUT IN PLACE.
IF YOU ARE A WOMAN THAT REFUSES TO HAVE CHILDREN IT IS
BECAUSE YOU ARE SELFISH.
TO SOME DEGREE IT IS, BUT SO WHAT DOT IT MEANS YOU WANT
TO ENJOY YOUR LIFE IN A CERTAIN WAY AND HAVING KIDS WOULD
HINDER YOU.
IT IS ALSO SELFISH TO HAVE KIDS, THAT IS YOU SAYING I WANT
TO PASS DOWN MY LAST NAME OR MY GENETICS.
THERE IS A SELFISH COMPONENT TO THAT AS WELL.
EITHER WAY WE ARE ALL SELFISH.
LET'S JUST MOVE ON WITH OUR LIVES.
>>I HAVE TWO KIDS, BUT I THINK I WAS SELFISH TO HAVE KIDS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE PLAY OUT THEIR FANTASIES THROUGH THEIR KIDS.
OR THEY JUST WANT TO HAVE A DNA VERSION OF THEMSELVES.
BY THE WAY, I AM GUILTY OF THAT IN THE SENSE THAT I LOVE MY
KIDS AND THEY KIND OF LOOK LIKE ME, AND I LOVE THAT.
WHAT IS IN IT FOR THEM?
YOU BROUGHT THEM BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO HAVE KIDS.
WE HAD THIS DEBATE, WE ARE ALL SELFISH AND ARE SOCIAL
ANIMALS BUT THERE IS A BALANCE TO BE HAD.
JUST BECAUSE WE DID IN THE PAST DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULD DO
IT NOW.
LET HER GO, LET HER DO WHATEVER SHE WANTS.
IF IT WAS A GUY WE WOULD NOT BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.
>>OH, HE IS AN ELIGIBLE BACHELOR.
OH, YOU ARE A GUY WHO WANTS TO GET STERILIZED?
>> A WOMAN?
GO BACK HOME.
ANYWAY SHE IS GOING TO GET HER WAY.