My guests tonight are currently on tour across North America.
They also held a rally in Washington, D.C.,
protesting their fans' classification as a gang
by the FBI.
Please welcome the members of the Insane Clown Posse,
J and Shaggy 2 Dope.
[ Cheers and applause ]
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All right, lads, welcome to the show.
First question -- Insane Clown Posse.
What's all that about?
[ Laughter ]
About 26, 27 years of making music in the underground,
music that you don't normally hear on the radio or --
You don't see our videos on any video channels.
We know that what we put out
is an acquired taste or something.
It's not for everybody. For very few, actually.
Well, your other answer could be it was just
a whole lot of insane clowns who hang out in a posse.
Like, it really -- Your name really says what it is.
-It's on the tin. -Self-explanatory.
Now, what's happened is, for the people who are
watching at home and don't know what's happened --
The people who are fans of yours, the Juggalos --
They have now been called a gang.
So people who show up to your concert,
if they're on probation or what have you,
they can be arrested because it's gang affiliation.
How did this come about?
They were just being called a gang.
The government has put out a list
officially identifying them as a gang.
Labeled as a gang officially.
By the FBI, you know.
It's not just, like, some guy just like, "Hey, they're a gang."
It's official as it can be.
It's official-official.
Well, the FBI just are a couple guys going, "Oh..."
Like, if I join up a gang of my favorite band,
the One Directions --
[ Laughter ]
Which -- The problem is --
Because we are a very aggressive group.
Because we don't go backwards. We only go in one direction.
But why is it that your band has been put --
Like, why have you been picked on?
I think we're presumed to be easy targets, first of all.
You know, I mean, obviously there's a lot of jokes
that come with what we do. We get that.
We get the humor in what we are to outside people.
I'm not seeing it. What humor? What do you mean?
Like, couldn't you lighten your image
by just taking things out of your title?
Like, you could become the Reasonable Clown Posse...
the Mentally Stable Clown Posse.
Just take the word "Posse" out
'cause that makes it sound like a gang.
You could just be the Clowns.
A lot of people refer to us as that, as a matter of fact.
If you got six, eight kids in some rural neighborhood
hanging out at the park, barbecuing on the weekend,
they're all wearing this T-shirt,
and, you know, they're hanging out together,
technically the police force in that little town
can make the point that that's a gang.
If they can do that, they get government funding
to combat that gang.
And they're all getting billy clubs.
And, you know, there's Juggalos in every little town,
rural areas all across America.
Probably not in the Amish communities.
-Absolutely. I mean... -All walks of life.
Amish -- they got iPhones and all that, those Amish boys.
They're all on Tinder.
"She looks like she can milk a cow. Swipe."
[ Laughter ]
So, this has become a free-speech issue now,
that people who like your band --
not being given their free speech.
And you actually went to Washington.
You had a march, and you spoke.
We have a quick clip if we can play...
Taking away somebody's opinion
is no different than sewing their butthole shut!
[ Laughter ]
Do you want to sew a man's butthole shut?!
Juggalos: No!
Okay, was that line deeper than I want to --
I'm speaking about assholes, and I'm going deeper.
But was that line deep because there's the old saying
that opinions are like assholes, everyone has one?
That's where it came from. Absolutely.
And so you're sewing up someone's opinion.
Every person has an opinion, like they have a butthole.
Take away their opinion,
it's like taking their butthole away.
[ Applause ]
I mean, it's that --
If you're taking away their opinion,
you're taking away their identity, their everything.
You know what I mean? I mean, when is it --
You take away my butthole, and I can't do shit.
[ Laughter ]
So, what is the end result? What do you hope to achieve?
And what have you achieved so far?
You know, I think things have gone well for us
because, again, it's not us, not about our music.
It's not about the people that like our music.
It's about flat-out discrimination,
blatant discrimination,
and we're very happy with the outcome of this
because a lot of people have taken our side in this,
that it is straight-up bullshit.
I mean, you can't deny it.
And it's not about us or our music what you're talking about.
It's about classifying
what could be millions of people as a gang,
which is as outrageous as it sounds.
It's completely [bleep] stupid.
And we've been very happy with the media
and the way things have gone,
because we're used to being picked on.
That's nothing new. We've been here 27 years.
Our whole career and even before that.
You've both aged very well. Your skin looks great.
Ladies and gentlemen, the Insane Clown Posse.
Thank you very much.
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