>> HIS ACTIONS WERE NOTHING
SHORT OF HEROIC.
MANY MORE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE DIED
LAST NIGHT IF IT WASN’T FOR A
RESPONSIBLE ARMED CITIZEN.
>> Jesse: POLICE PRAISING THE
ACTIONS OF A GOOD GUY WITH A GUN
THAT NEUTRALIZED A DERANGED
SHOOTER AT A MALL IN INDIANA.
IT TOOK ELIJAH DIGIT KENS 15
SECONDS TO TAKE DOWN THE SUSPECT
THAT SHOT AND KILLED THREE AND
INJURED TWO OTHERS.
THE 22-YEAR-OLD GOING TOWARD THE
SHOOTER AND CONFRONTED HIM.
LIBERALS SAY HIS ACTIONS WERE
WAY OUT OF LINE.
ARGUING THE HERO SHOULDN’T BE
CALLED A GOOD SAMARITAN.
AND THEN THERE’S THE LADIES OF
"THE VIEW."
>> THIS GOOD IS ASAMARITAN THING
WAS TRAINED IN DEFENSIVE FIREARM
TRAINING.
IT’S VERIED HARD TO HIT A MOVING
TARGET.
IT’S VERY LUCKY THAT THAT GOOD
SAMARITAN HIT THAT MOVING TARGET
IN THAT WAY AND HE WASN’T -- HE
HAD A GUN PERMIT BUT HE WASN’T
SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE MALL WITH
A GUN.
SO HE BROKE THE LAW -- EVEN
THOUGH HE WAS --
>> Jesse: YOU’RE SAYING NO, NO,
NO, JUDGE.
>> Jeanine: HE DIDN’T BREAK THE
LAW.
HE DIDN’T BREAK THE LAW.
THEY SAY IN THE MALL THEY DON’T
WANT YOU TO HAVE A GUN.
HE DIDN’T BREAK A LAW.
HE CAME TO THE DEFENSE OF
ANOTHER PERSON.
I’M SURPRISED, SONNY.
YOU WORKED FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE.
IDEOLOGY IS TRUMPING THE MURDER
OF INNOCENT VICTIMS.
THEY’RE SO LEFT, THAT THEY SAY
THEY WANT TO BELIEVE IT’S A
HORRIBLE THING AND GOD FOR BID
WE CALL THIS PERSON A GOOD
SAMARITAN THAT STOPPED A MASS
SHOOTER BECAUSE HE’S A LAW
ABIDING BUY.
SHE’S UPSET THAT HE STOPPED THE
KILLER WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS
PICTURE?
THAT’S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
THERE’S NOTHING ELSE TO SAY.
>> Jesse: DO YOU WANT TO LAY-UP,
JESSICA?
I’LL ASK YOU.
HERE’S THE LAY-UP OPPORTUNITY.
IS THIS GUY A GOOD SAMARITAN?
>> Jessica: SURE.
HE KILLED A MASS SHOOTER.
STILL MANAGED TO KILL THREE
PEOPLE BEFORE THIS HAPPENED,
WHICH IS A BIG DEAL AND WE
SHOULDN’T LOSE FOCUS ON THEM.
HE’S BOUGHT HIS GUNS LEGALLY IN
MARCH.
HE DIDN’T HAVE AN ADULT RECORD
BUT HE HAD A JUVENILE RECORD.
I DON’T KNOW WHAT THE ROLE THAT
CAN PLAY GOING FORWARD IN TERMS
OF HOLDING PEOPLE BACK -- THE
JUDGE IS NODDING WITH ME.
THAT’S A GOOD SIGN.
I THINK WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO NOT
LOSE SIGHT OF AND THIS HAPPENS
AS NEW NEWS STORIES ROLL IN AND
PEOPLE PUSH OUT THE ODD ONES.
A GOOD GUY WITH A GUN CAN HELP.
TWO DAYS AGO, IT WAS 400 TRAINED
COPS LET 20 KIDS DIE IN
CLASSROOMS WHILE THEY WERE
WAITING AROUND AND USING HAND
SANITIZER.
>> Jesse: I WISH THIS GUY WAS IN
UVALDE.
>> Jessica: I WOULD WELL KIM HIM
TO DO THAT.
IT’S A SORRY REFLECTION ON THE
STATE OF AMERICA, IT’S AN
AVERAGE DAY THAT THREE PEOPLE
ARE MURDERED BY SOMEONE.
LUCKY HE TOOK THEM OUT.
BUT THAT DOESN’T MEAN WE DON’T
HAVE A TREMENDOUS GUN PROBLEM IN
THIS COUNTRY.
>> Jesse: WE’RE LUCKY.
THEY POLLED THIS.
PEOPLE TRUST A REGULAR CITIZEN
WITH A GUN SOMETIMES MORE THAN
POLICE OFFICERINGS BECAUSE
POLICE OFFICERS, THEY’RE FEW AND
FAR BETWEEN.
IF THERE’S A CIVILIAN THERE
DURING THE SHOOTING, THEY CAN
NEUTRALIZE THAT SHOOTER LIKE
THAT.
>> Dana: THE FIRST PEOPLE TO
CALL HIM A HERO WERE THE COPS.
IT TOOK 11 MINUTES AFTER THE 911
CALL FOR THE POLICE TO GET
THERE.
>> Jesse: EXACTLY.
>> Dana: THE LOCAL NEWS AGENCY
THERE, WTHR, WANT TO GIVE THEM
CREDIT.
THEY APPROACHED SEVERAL GUN
INSTRUCTORS.
HOW DIFFICULT WOULD IT BE FOR
THIS -- TO REPLICATE THIS?
THEY CAN PUT EIGHT OUT OF TEN
SHOTS ON TARGET IN 15 SECONDS AT
DOUBLE THE MAXIMUM PISTOL RANGE
DISTANCE.
NOBODY COULD DO THAT.
THEY DON’T COME CLOSE.
I THINK ONE, HERO.
ALSO, WOULD YOU PLEASE JOIN THE
NAVY SEALS.
>> Jesse: GREAT SHOT.
GREG?
>> Greg: JESSICA BROUGHT UP THE
NEWS CYCLE.
SHE’S RIGHT ABOUT ONE SIDE GOES
WITH THEIR STORY, THE OTHER SIDE
BRINGS UP THEIR STORY.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT OTHER STORY,
THE TEXAS STORY AND ALL THE
OTHER MASS SHOOTINGS GET
AMPLIFIED.
THIS STORY MUST BE AMPLIFIED.
IT’S CLEAR THAT WAS A COPYCAT
SHOOTER.
THESE ARE ALL HAPPENING IN
CLUMPS.
THE AMPLIFICATION OF THE
PREVIOUS SHOOTINGS.
IT STANDS TO REASON THAT IF YOU
AMPLIFIED THIS STORY, THAT WOULD
GIVE COPYCATS A SECOND THOUGHT.
IT’S LIKE THE UNCERTAINTY THAT
THERE MIGHT BE AN ARMED PERSON
AROUND THERE AND THE PLACE THAT
YOU WANT TO GO LIGHT UP, MIGHT
TAKE YOU OUT.
THAT MIGHT HELP.
MORE OF THESE STORIES, I WOULD
LOVE TO HEAR.
I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THEM IN THE
MEDIA.
I DOUBT THIS IS SHOWING UP ON CNN OR MSNBC.
CNN OR MSNBC.
GUN CONTROL PEOPLE WILL SAY THIS
DIDN’T REDUCE THE SEVERITY.
THIS DIDN’T PREVENT THE
CONTAGIOUS BUT DIMINISHED THE
HARM.
SO YOU’RE SAYING YOU DON’T WANT
IT NOW?
IT GOES BACK TO THE SONNY
COMMENT.
IN HER BEST CASE, I CAN’T
BELIEVE SHE WOULD HAVE PREFERRED
TO HAVE MORE VICTIMS.
THAT’S WHAT SHE’S BASICALLY
SAYING.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO -- WHAT IS
THE ALTERNATE IN THAT REALITY IN
A MASS SHOOTER?
TO SAY I’M GLAD THAT GUY WASN’T
THERE TO STOP IT.
THIS IS LIKE COMPARED TO THE
TRAGEDY IN TEXAS.
THE REASON WHY THIS PRIVATE
CITIZEN LEGALLY ARMED WAS ABLE
TO SHOOT SO QUICKLY, HE DIDN’T
HAVE TO WAIT FOR APPROVAL.
NO RED TAPE, NO VIOLATION OF
PROTOCOL.
THAT’S WHAT THEY HAVE TO LOOK
AT.
WHY WERE 400 PEOPLE THERE AND
NOBODY COULD DO IT?
THIS COULD CO DO IT BECAUSE HE
WASN’T THEM.
>> Jeanine: WHAT IS INTERESTING
IS THE FACT THAT WHEN SHE SAYS
THAT SONNY SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU
HAVE TO BE REALLY GOOD TO DO
THAT.
HE COULD HAVE KILLED A LOT OF
PEOPLE.
THAT’S ALWAYS THE ARGUMENT.
HE COULD HAVE -- BUT HE DIDN’T.
LET’S DO WITH THE FACTS.
HE DIDN’T.
>> Jesse: HE DIDN’T.
HE’S A GREAT SHOT.
THAT WAS A GREAT ANALOGY ABOUT THE VACCINE.