That would raise taxes on half of Americans and
potentially sunset programs like Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security,
why would you propose something like that in an election year?
>> It's rare.
But this is one of the few times a Fox.
>> That's of course the democrat talking points, it's a plan.
But here's the thing about reality for a second [CROSSTALK].
>> It's not a Democratic talking point.
It's in the plan.
>> That's right.
Fox News, every once in a while we'll ask a Republican a tough question, especially
when that Republican has a proposal that could lead to political suicide for
the Republican Party.
So Rick Scott has continued pushing his proposal.
He refers to it as Rescue America, which would of course make
the poorest Americans pay federal income taxes.
And it would also lead to the very popular universal programs of Social Security and
Medicare to sunset after five years.
So that's what he got called out on.
And he really struggled to answer those questions because again, the host
is asking him about what he's reading specifically from the proposal itself.
And Scott tried to pretend like that's not the case.
Later in the interview, he said, no one that I know of wants to Sunset Medicare or
Social Security, but what we're doing is we don't even talk about it.
He asserted that the plan was about reorganizing such programs is because,
quote, we ought to figure out how we preserve those programs.
Now, clearly he has no interest in preserving those programs because again,
his plan would lead to these popular universal programs to expire to
essentially lose the funding necessary.
And the reason why the Republican Party overall,
including Republican leadership, has slapped this down is because these
are programs that are incredibly popular even among Republican voters.
For instance, why don't we take a look at Social Security?
A public policy polling survey conducted in 2018 found that 56% of
those who voted for Donald Trump and
55% of those who identify as Republican would be more likely to vote for
a candidate who quote supported expanding and increasing Social Security.
And the results are even more significant when you take a look at Medicare.
So large majorities across demographic groups say Medicare is important to them
and their families.
If you look at party identification among Democrats,
were talking about 88% among republicans, we're talking about 77%.
These are people who love Medicare,
in fact would like to see it expanded further, Jack.
>> Well, Rick Scott has been trying to destroy Medicare for a long time.
He committed the largest Medicare fraud in
American history when he was the CEO of a healthcare company.
And if you think that's an exaggeration, you can go ahead and look it up.
Just google it, you'll see.
In fact it was the largest fraud against the American government at that point.
But republicans don't look at criminals,
mainly white collar criminals and think bad guy.
They think smart savvy guy who knows how to rob us blind.
Please, take my money sir and destroy Medicare while you're at it sir.
So they've elected him many times.
So he thinks, let me just finish the job.
I stole tons of money from them.
What do you get about $300 million dollars in compensation for that theft?
And by the way the company was criminally convicted.
So there's no question about any of this.
Rick Scott is one of the biggest criminals in American history.
And now he's going and saying, well look, I don't think they'll sunset Medicare and
Social Security, but they would have to have an affirmative vote in a direction
to say that they're going to keep it.
You see a lot of affirmative votes in congress?
No, anybody can stop a vote, just say Filibuster, Manchester cinema,
Republicans, it doesn't matter.
They'll and Social Security and Medicare instantly.
But by the way, why though, when even an overwhelming majority of your
voters want it because the rich don't want it.
It bothers them.
They're like, wait now if we have Social Security and Medicare,
then people retire at the age of 65, I don't want them retiring.
I want them back in the mindset, I want them to keep working and
if they get health care, they won't be beholden to me, they won't be my slave.
So they could just then get healthcare and retire and then they contributed in and
the government gives it back to them instead of handing it to me.
No, they hate it.
They've been trying to kill Social Security.
Republicans, have been trying to kill Social Security and
Medicare since the day that it was launched, while they fought tooth and
nail against FDR to make sure it didn't get launched.
So the problem that other Republicans have with Rick Scott is not that he's
trying to kill Medicare and Social Security,
it's that they think he's being ham handed about it, that he's being too obvious.
Yeah, they're like,
no you idiot, were trying to kill it in a much more subtle way.
And they almost pulled it off under Obama, where McConnell got Obama to
propose cutting Social Security and then laughed at him and blamed him for it.
And so this is as old as time.
It's just Rick Scott is doing it in a clumsy way.
>> Yeah, I love that you brought up what happened during the Obama administration.
That's my favorite example, and the fact that Obama fell for
that garbage just shows you the, I mean he's a smart
guy except when it comes to Republican strategy, he fell for it.
He would take the bait and it was a disaster.
But I do wanna just quickly point to the reason why these
programs are popular in the first place.
The reason why they're popular, the reason why they have enjoyed the longevity that
they have is because of the fact that they're universal programs.
Everyone pays into it, everyone benefits from it.
Even if you're ultra wealthy, you pay into it.
And if you want, you get to take advantage of that program later,
obviously no one can survive just on Social Security during retirement.
But it's been a tremendously important program in providing
supplemental income for retirees, ensuring that people are made whole and
that they don't end up on the streets in their senior years.
And so when we're talking about policy proposals and
why it is that you want it to be universal rather than means tested,
this is why, you want programs that everyone gets to take advantage of.
You don't pick winners and losers and
yes, as long as everyone pays into it, everyone gets to take advantage of it.
So it's just something to keep in mind as democrats continue putting out or
rolling out proposals that are like so heavily means tested that of course,
the most affluent people in the country are gonna fight back against it.
So that's my only commentary here and
I love the fact that Rick Scott is such a moron that he doesn't understand that
just brazenly attacking tremendously popular programs ain't gonna fly.
>> Right, but there's one other dynamic here that's really important and
he's not strictly a moron, there is a real reason why he's doing it.
So but first, I just wanna make a quick point about two of the things we were
discussing on Social Security and
Medicare, the Republics have been calling it an entitlement this whole time.
They're like, look at these people, they feel like they're entitled.
As you all know, because you paid into Social Security, Medicare your whole life,
yes, you are entitled to it because it's your goddamn money.
But then the republicans make it seem like,
I guess you just feel entitled to the money.
Yeah, I'm entitled that money and you're not allowed to steal it, Rick Scott.
And he's like, God damn it, why aren't I allowed to steal it?
So that's who Rick Scott is.
And I can say all of this brazenly on air because it's true
Rick Scott come at me bro, right?
He won't because he's a crook and he's a criminal.
And the rest of the mainstream media, they reported, you can look it up,
but then when they talk about Rick Scott,
they will not clarify that he's one of the biggest criminals in American history.
It's amazing.
All right, so
that leads us to the taxes, he wants to raise taxes on 50% of the country.
And where does he wanna concentrate the extra taxes,
the poor and the middle class.
I'm not exaggerating.
Meanwhile, Biden proposed earlier today,
a bill that would hit people making with people that have assets over
$100 million that has no chance of passing cuz effects to rich.
It is intensely popular, the Democratic proposal is wait,
the rich pay the billionaires pay 8% in taxes on average.
That's a crime.
That's unbelievable.
And they have plenty of money.
They should pay their fair share.
The democrats don't mean it, but rhetorically it's true and
I wish to God they meant it because that makes sense.
The republicans now through Rick Scott are saying no, leave the poor rich alone,
let's hammer the poor and the middle class and raise taxes on that.
So why is he doing it?
Okay, there's an internal battle within the Republican Party and
on one side is Trump and fellow criminals like Rick Scott.
So both Trump and Scott, to be fair to them, we say they're stupid, but are they?
They've both made hundreds of millions of dollars ripping people off and
they both committed crimes.
They've both gotten away with it and
they're both spectacularly wealthy because they're lifelong criminals.
And they understand that this system, the minute you steal the money,
as long as you stole enough of it, once you have it, then you're above the law and
you're never going to be held accountable.
So he's going with the blunt instrument, let's just steal all their money now.
Let's go get the poor and
the middle class let's rob him like trump wants to McConnell is on the other camp.
McConnell is a more crafty thief and
he's been milking the American people through decades.
But there's a power struggle within the Senate.
So McConnell says, I go to graphic four year, we will not have as part
of our agenda a bill that raises taxes on half the American people and
Sunset Social Security and Medicare within five years.
That will not be part of the Republican Senate majority agenda.
While they were in a press conference together, McConnell made a reference
to Rick Scott who had already walked away from McConnell and
walked away from the press conference.
So it's clear to me that Trump is going to put somebody like if he wins, is going to
put someone like Rick Scott in charge and say let's hurry up on the theft, right?
And so that's the battle Rick Scott versus Mitch McConnell, but
Scott is a proxy for Trump.
So this is Trump versus McConnell.
And one is saying let's steady as we go, we've been robbing this country blind for
40, 50 years don't get overly greedy.
Another side saying there's no law anymore.
Just take the goddamn money and give it to us.
>> Yeah, I think your prediction is exactly right.
And it's amazing because when you look at the amount that they would save in
taxes it's such a miniscule amount.
And the amount of pain and suffering that it would lead to
if we cut the taxes that are necessary to fund Social Security,
I mean it's just so they can save a little more money.
But I mean, it's not surprising with someone like Donald Trump, who never
misses an opportunity to scam people just so he could pad his own pockets.
So again, not surprising, this is who they are.
This is the Republican Party and
keep that in mind as they pretend to be these economic populists.
They're not economic populist.
The last thing they would wanna do is reverse the damage that's been done by
the rigged economic system that we're living under.