iCarly is the 2007 sitcom about a girl and her friends running a web show. Victorious is the
2010 sitcom about a girl and her friends going to an art school. Each show presented its characters,
stories, settings, and even merchandise in drastically different ways. But which show did
it better? Well, since you already know my answer, I figured it only makes sense to collaborate with
the iCarly to my Victorious. The Sam Puckett to my Cat Valentine. The Freddie Benson to my Andre
Harris the Judicially Favorable and Justifiably Fascinating Jordan Fringe. Fascinating? Never been
called that before I have also never been called old chum, or even Derek. None of that matters but
those are a list of things I've never been called uh hi I'm Jordan Fringe it's good to have you here
for this video we'll only be covering the original iCarly and the only Victorious. So, you ready to
verify the vigorous variety and visual versatility of the vastly voluminous Victorious? I'm inclined
to infer that the irrevocably incredible innovator is inherently iCarly. Nice, now sing the theme
song. "I know, you see" dude my theme song! I really don't need another copyright claim.
Oh my bad um there's not enough people with originality so here I am to save the day Jayniac
This Carly chick is out of her mind bring on the fight
Shelby would destroy that twig twig I'm not a twig and I'm getting curvier every day
I believe in my own choice and I don't need approval from others
Carly shay is the quirky kind hearted and occasionally obsessive protagonist of iCarly.
Tori Vega is the plucky determined and occasionally obsessive protagonist of
Victorious. Yeah, these two are kind of similar. Yeah, when it comes to personality Carly and
Tori are kind of like a cheese pizza, you know? You got the dough, the cheese, the crust,
everything you need to make a generic pizza without the extra toppings to help it stand out.
Well, there is one pepperoni on these metaphorical pizzas both Carly and Tori are
in an endless pursuit of helping others. Without fail if they see one of their friends is upset,
absent, or in danger they make every effort to make things better for them.
But this isn't always a good thing. No matter how good their intentions may be Carly and Tori
have a tendency to overstep boundaries but it's here you'll notice the biggest difference between
the two whenever Carly's attempt at helping others goes poorly she's quick to apologize
but whenever Tori's attempt at helping others goes poorly she kind of just brushes it under the rug
almost as if she did nothing wrong Carly's all like I want to help you to the best of my ability
and if I hurt you I hope you understand that I didn't mean it, but Tori's all like I'm gonna
help you and you're gonna [ __ ] like it! Come on now, is that any way to treat your first crush?
I...I have no idea what you're talking about. Oh yeah? "You know I flaunt you cause girl
I really want you. And you're looking nice. Got me cooler than a bag of ice." Moving on, moving on!
When it comes to the supporting cast both shows have their fair share of characters. Sam, Spencer,
Freddie, Gibby, and T-Bo from iCarly and Jade, Andre, Robbie, Cat, Beck, Trina, and Mr. Sikowitz
from Victorious. It doesn't take long to realize that the iCarly cast is outnumbered here but it is
a pretty even match what the iCarly cast lacks in variety it more than makes up for in its zingers.
Ever seen a butter sock? No, what's it for? This! I invite you into my home,
I teach you about the joys of sculpting I'm forced to wait an hour for bagels I didn't even want we
can be buds but you got to get over this crush thing I am over it seriously I'm in love with you,
you just want to be friends and I'm totally cool living with that constant pain. Hey now, let's not
forget Victorious' zingers Chicago, Chicago. Hello boys my name is Tori Vega, buy me some
licorice and I'll give you a kiss. I talk nothing like that, seriously do I talk anything like that?
Andre!
It's raining in my bathroom, Grandma you were just taking a shower. Touche, it seems we're at a
standstill. Well, not exactly. You see, one really glaring problem with the iCarly cast is that Sam,
Spencer, and Gibby are all idiots, Sam's book dumb, Spencer's a man-child, and Gibby's a
Gibby you can't have three dumb characters be leads in a sitcom that's just bad
writing. Reason being if you swapped some of their lines it really wouldn't matter who's saying what.
Any of the dumb characters can say the dumb character line and we'd still get the oh so
iconic and ever-present laugh track. But surely, you haven't forgotten about how
uh not so smart Cat, Trina, and Sikowitz are. I haven't and uh don't call me Shirley.
Okay, kids won't get that reference a common misconception is that Mr. Sikowitz is an idiot,
but that couldn't be further from the truth. Mr. Sikowitz plays the role of mentor and though he
can be quite the ditz he's wise enough to teach his students a fair share of life lessons.
Trina is also not an idiot she's just ignorant of the fact that her aspirations aren't her
strongest abilities and the only people that try to tell her that are the same people that
constantly bully her so of course she's not going to listen to them uh what about Cat?
Yeah Cat's an idiot. You've Cat to be kitten me right meow!
Ugh just admit that Victorious cast is purr-fect! You know I'd never do that on purr-pose!
Is this your way of staying paws-itive? Cat pun! Okay, enough see this this is why I hate iCarly,
you hate iCarly? That's not what you said in my video look man I gotta win back the crowd
somehow and not all of us have a hundred thousand subscribers to fall back on...
the next category is story and themes, taking a look at how episode plots relate to the
central theme of each series iCarly for its web show and Victorious for its music
both shows were able to weld their themes and plots together quite organically but where each
show shines differently are in the plots that didn't have to do with their central theme iCarly
never shied away from having more character-driven episodes like iMake Sam Girlier, iEnrage Gibby,
and iLove You episodes like these help flesh out the cast giving us some insight into
why they are the way they are true but so many of those non-web show episodes are just about dating
it's almost like these characters have no character unless they're trying to boink someone
Victorious on the other hand has episodes like The Great Ping Pong Scam, Locked Up, and April Fool's
Blank all episodes with ridiculous plots that put our characters in unique situations forcing them
to bounce off of each other yeah but so many of those non-music episodes are pretty disorganized
plots go all over the place and little is done to actually flesh the characters out you definitely
have a point though I will say it's easy to flesh your characters out when you have 109 episodes
yes we know they were broadcasted as 97 episodes I'm only saying this so people don't comment it
Victorious only had 57 episodes true but iCarly had character episodes as early as season one with
the Freddie-centric episode specifically iFense oh yes who can forget the iconic episode where
Freddie goes fencing and is immediately upstaged by his mother it seems we just have different
tastes and that's what it comes down to Victorious took a lot of risks with their plots and usually
had a very I don't care attitude when it came to realism I actually prefer how free-spirited
and unpredictable the episode plots could be it saves the show from becoming just a bunch
of shipping wars while I prefer the consistency of iCarly's episodes spending time with these
specific characters granted a deeper enjoyment of their character tropes and how they would tackle
various situations throughout a bustling social media renaissance while having more episodes
sure it still allowed me to feel like getting to know the minds of let's say a YouTuber personally
when the cameras aren't rolling like they're just regular people having their own lives outside of
the web related things they do and at the end of the day it all comes down to personal preference
alright let's talk about presentation how the shows were shown to the audience
transitions cinematography music humor all that good stuff both shows excelled at presentation
in different ways iCarly the series about Carly's web show used an editing software menu with clips
cuts and scene selects as a way of transitioning from scene to scene while victorious the series
about Tori going to an art school used quick cuts around the campus to show what characters would be
exposed to on their way to the next scene when iCarly transitioned it would have this awesome
electric guitar riff that be accented by smaller instruments like bells, triangles, and bongos when
Victorious transitioned it would have these heavy percussion lines accented by whistles,
school bells would be added too if the gang was on campus but that's not all victorious actually had
two transition styles the second of which being The Slap page update where characters would post
online about how they feel during an episode which doesn't deviate from the premise at all the
impulsive teenage characters are posting impulsive teenage things to an impulsive teenage Twitter you
mean like regular Twitter? the simplest way to describe the difference in cinematography
for the two shows is this iCarly is shot like a sitcom and victorious is shot like a play
in iCarly we see a lot of the sets Spencer's apartment the apartment hallway the apartment
lobby Ridgeway junior high school and the groovy smoothie the list goes on each set
was designed with the intent of interaction and the camera wasn't afraid to explore them
victorious on the other hand used its sets as a backdrop to the character's shenanigans
sure at times we'd get crazier sets like beck's RV or the prison in Yerba but on the regular
we'd only see Hollywood arts classrooms lunch tables or Tori's house and we'd never see them
in their entirety though I completely agree I will say the one set Victorious does do well
is the hallways at Hollywood arts every student decorates their locker with something that
reflects their personality because of this looking at every single locker throughout the hallways can
tell you a bit about the person even if they're just a background character besides that though
I think what Victorious lacks in set design it more than makes up for with its soundtrack
and humor let me ask you something do you honestly think the iCarly web show is funny? Well,
not burst your gut funny but when I was younger there were a few gags that made me chuckle and
in earlier episodes seeing cool guests do weird things on the show definitely brought me some
enjoyment and you're sure it's not just a case of hold on to your seats random equals funny now
I know humor is subjective so it's all a matter of personal preference if I had to describe the
different tones of humor between the two shows I'd say that iCarly is more slapstick and one-liner
driven while victorious is more situation-based and character-driven I get what you're saying
earlier you mentioned the dumb character saying the dumb character line and yeah that can be a bit
of a problem in iCarly Sam says something Freddie responds Sam retorts cue laugh track what makes up
for this though is how the characters deliver their lines what you mean by screaming them
I feel like I'm inside of Walmart charlie calm down you're gonna be fine
shut up my mom says none of my relatives
Victorious dialogue wasn't just about setting up jokes and even if it was a joke it was much more
based on who said it you know Jade's lines, you know Robbie's lines you know how they'd interact
with each other so when all the characters are in the same room, you can guarantee everyone
will contribute something different to the comedy and we haven't even spoken about all the innuendos
okay uh let's start the first shot back yeah let me have you on the couch girl
for the shot you'd have to be pretty skinny to slide under that laser beam and not hit it
so which one of us is the flattest
listen while I've got you on the phone would i need my parents permission to have minor
cosmetic surgery Trina what do you say that I have to be 18 before you can make it about me
can we at least agree that Spencer is the greatest oh big time
and for our final category we're going to talk about the real world items that each show has
spawned now iCarly.com was a website in the show but it was also a website in real life fun fact
the URL would redirect you to a region-specific version of the website if you typed outside of the
us so if you're Canadian like me iCarly.com would actually redirect you to iCarly.ca the website had
blogs games and a variety of things that fans can interact with that even have the characters
making fun videos together in their spare time oh really yeah yeah you're not forgetting anything
where's Carly in the iCarly.com videos we see Sam Puckett, Spencer Shay, Freddie Benson, Nevel
Papperman, T-Bo, Gibby, Cat Valentine, Trina Vega, Robbie Shapiro, Rex Powers, and strangely enough
Victoria Justice as herself on multiple occasions but Carly Shay only appears on screen like
once maybe twice the only reason we're given as to why she's not on screen is
Carly's recording the action as we all head to Carly's recording I thought Freddie was
the camera guy at least The Slap.com understood its characters better everyone got their own
individual videos that gave you information about them that wasn't present in the show
sometimes there'd even be interactions between two characters that don't usually hang out in the show
okay fine The Slap.com was pretty cool but Victorious had nothing on the iCarly merchandise
you could have Sam's remote Spencer's robot a digital video recorder an interactive play set
a web show set and and tony if you get me started on iCarly and it's much improved sequel iCarly 2.
iCarly came out swinging with the merchandise even giving you things from specific episodes
yeah you have a point there Victorious kind of just had some toys some video games and some dolls
one doll in particular can cost anywhere between three hundred and three thousand dollars depending
on its condition can you guess why Victorious also had three soundtracks and four singles that
are available on multiple music platforms to this very day but yeah iCarly really went all out!
A big thank you to my old chum Derek aka Jordan Fringe for collaborating with me in this video
ever since 2020 I've been asked to make this exact video but I knew i couldn't do it without someone
who knows iCarly as well as I know Victorious. No problem Jayniac, it was an honor to discuss
these two shows with you which in their own right I have respect for and enjoy. You're an incredible
content creator and incredible musician and I am grateful to call you a friend. Oh stop darling
you're making me blush in all seriousness I was in a really dark place and I was ready to leave
YouTube until you contacted me Jordan Fringe so in many ways I should be thanking you thanks dude
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