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Welcome back to The Philip DeFranco Show.
I got another fantastic floor show for you today.
Which by the way, I've seen your comments and questions.
Why are you filming on the floor?
Is it for the slimming angle?
Which always, but also actually it's a sound thing.
When I record into a room that I've never been in before,
the easiest thing for me to do is to film into the bed.
All the sheets, the duvet, all the pillows,
they dampen the sounds.
You don't get horrible echo-y audio,
which would be the case in 99% of the
other angles in this room.
So it's mainly that
but also thank you for calling me skinny.
Oh my God, I ate a salad for lunch
and it feels so worth it.
What's happening?
I meant to say buckle up, hit that like button
and let's just jump into it
because this is a lot of news to go through.
You know first up today, we had the biggest podcaster
in the world, Joe Rogan, back in the news
for two wildly different reasons.
Right, so the first is because of comments
he recently made about Trump on his podcast.
With this notably coming after he said he wouldn't have
Trump on as a guest for the show and has even
declined the opportunity to have him as a guest.
And now he's kind of just solidifying his thoughts
on Trump here.
So in a recent episode with comedian, Tom Segura,
the two talked about Trump's health.
With Segura, noting that in general,
Trump reportedly maintained high energy levels
on almost no sleep to which Rogan added...
- [Joe] He's on Adderall.
- God.
- [Joe] Do you think he's on Adderall?
- [Philip] And another point's talking about
other weird Trump things like tactics staffers
reportedly used to keep him engaged in briefings
or his previous feuds with the media regarding as well.
- [Joe] He's a man baby.
- He's a f***ing toddler.
There's almost a part of you that goes it's it's,
it's just hilarious when someone doesn't
give a f*** that much.
- [Joe] If he wasn't an existential threat to democracy.
- [Tom] Yeah.
And the, the, the power that he wields over his minions,
wasn't just so disturbing.
It would be hilarious.
- [Philip] Right, and so all of that is why you may have
seen these headlines saying that Rogan called Trump
a drugged out, man baby.
And so it's gonna be interesting to see if
and what fallout we see from that since he didn't just go
after Trump, he specifically mentioned his quote minions
but also the second reason he's in the news is
because he's facing backlash for comments that he made
about the unhoused population in Los Angeles.
Because you had Rogan and Segura having a conversation
about the homelessness in the city
that led to this exchange.
- Someone has a car parked there on the sidewalk,
like partly on the sidewalk.
So they're like half blocking a lane.
And then they have like a, a canopy draped
over their car and they have just stacks of s***
and then next to it was a dresser.
They had a dresser.
- [Tom] Jesus.
- So they had their shoes and a shoe rack.
There was a shoe rack.
Like this is where they live.
- [Tom] That's really wild.
I didn't know also that, you know, when, when you see stuff
like that on the streets, at least in Los Angeles
or maybe in California, those are, that's protected property
like by law, you know that like, if you were to go.
- So you're not supposed to do that.
- But, and, and, but like
that's that person's property by law.
If you were to go.
- Oh, the homeless person's property is protected?
- Yes, yes, absolutely.
- Huh.
- If you were to go and try to move that or take that
- [Joe] You'd get arrested.
- Yeah, yeah.
- Hilarious.
But they wouldn't arrest you if you shot somebody,
maybe should just go and shoot the homeless people.
- I like your ideas.
- [Joe] Yeah. Yeah.
And if nobody claims it, I mean
nobody has anything about violent crime in LA anymore
- [Philip] With Rogan then going on to talk
about issues of crime within the city
and saying people are just getting away with too much.
But the line that seemed to stick with a lot of people
was the one about shooting unhoused people.
It seeming to generate a lot of anger
with people saying things like, 'and his bitch ass was
crying about the safety of comedians after Chris rock
got smacked and someone rushed a stage at a Chappelle show,
meanwhile killings of unhoused people have been
on the rise since 2010 and surged in the pandemic.'
And you had community leaders in Los Angeles
and advocates for the unhoused speaking to Variety
about this, with Theo Henderson, the creator of the
"We the Unhoused" podcast saying 'it's repulsive'.
'It's infuriating because it's not only out of touch,
but the reality is that unhoused people are targeted
by housed people.'
'To advocate, trying to shoot it unhoused people,
or just giving these dog whistles to people that
do not see unhoused people as human beings.'
And Andy Bales, the head of the Union Rescue Mission Shelter
in downtown LA also saying that 'murders of homeless people
in Los Angeles went up 47% last year over
the previous year.'
And adding 'there's a bit of an unfortunate vigilantism
already in Los Angeles towards people devastated
by homelessness and they don't need any encouragement.'
'Usually when I get in a case like this, with somebody
with a lot of influence and responsibility
I invite them to come see what's happening on the street
and get to know the people that they're talking about.
I would invite Joe to come to Union Rescue Mission
to see not only our work
but see what's happening on the streets
and who these people are, who he's talking about.'
And while obviously you had that reaction
you of course had people defending Rogan saying
how can you watch this and think that he's being serious?
And saying he wasn't saying to shoot homeless people
or anyone literally, he was making a point.
Y'all are trying to cancel Joe Rogan by any means.
But as far as my opinion
and you can feel free to agree or disagree.
That's half the point
of having these conversations and discussions.
But I, I personally don't understand how you could
watch that clip and go, yes, Joe Rogan
is legitimately calling for the murder of the unhoused.
To me, that seems like two comedians, Rogan and Segura,
talking about the authorities having their priorities
out of whack.
Joking to the police are more likely to try
and arrest you for stealing from an unhoused person
rather than if you murdered them.
Right, like if you lived in a place where people
were more likely to be prosecuted
because they were going like 110 miles an hour in a 60
rather than committing manslaughter, you'd be like, oh yeah
if you're gonna drive 110 miles an hour
just drive into someone.
To me, it just feels like a kind of random throwaway joke.
That said, I'm not gonna villainize the advocates
that jumped on this story.
I think for them like any opportunity to raise awareness
about a very serious issue.
I mean, I, before this, I didn't know that the
the murder rates of the unhoused had jumped like this.
And so I guess kind of the silver lining is
that this story has raised awareness of that fact.
But as far as the jumping down Rogan's throat for this
I think like there are a lot of things that Rogan says
that I think you can be critical of.
And personally, I think by trying to make a massive
massive deal out of this, it,
it hurts the legitimate reasons that people can bring
up at other times.
But that's the story, some of my opinion,
and I'd love to know your thoughts
whether you agree or disagree.
And then while so much of the conversation online
about bots on social media has been centered
around Elon Musk and Twitter.
There's also a big conversation happening
around Zach Snyder.
Because there are allegations out there right now
that Zach Snyder essentially used his devoted online
fan base and bots as a weapon.
Right, and in case you're unfamiliar
with Zach Snyder and the Snyderverse, here we go.
Zach Snyder's a director who was a big part
of Warner Bro's DC films.
And he was the director of the 'Justice League.'
But when post production came around
for a variety of reasons, including a death in his family
Snyder stepped down and Joss Whedon stepped in
as an uncredited director to finish the film out.
With reports then coming out that the version of film
that was released was far different than what was imagined.
Allegations that there was so much unused footage
with that then fueling Snyder and DC fans
to see Snyder's vision of it.
Prompting the online hashtag "release the Snyder cut"
in an attempt to pressure the studio into giving Snyder
a chance to make the movie that he wanted.
And eventually after millions and millions of new dollars
the Snyder cut was released hitting HBO max last year
which on a personal note, I will say
I didn't see the first version
but I actually really enjoyed the Snyder cut.
And in general, I think that it was positively received.
But the story that we're talking about today stems
from a Rolling Stone report that looked
at the Snyder versus online influence and what drove it.
Because the Snyder's fan base, very devoted, very wild.
Though, multiple outlets have labeled it as toxic and loud
but according to reports commissioned by Warner media
at least 13% of the accounts talking online
about the release of the Snyder cut were fake.
Which might not seem like a lot
but it was well above the three to 5% that are typical
on an average trending topic.
And Rolling Stone reportedly had cybersecurity firms
also look at the Snyderverse social media efforts
with one executive saying
'there's no question that bots were involved.'
And a marketing executive talking
about how these Snyder hashtags would blow up
and then immediately fall off.
Explaining, 'you don't see a drop like that organically.
And it looks like more of an example of weaponizing
a movement,' with Rolling Stone than adding that
in other words, 'while Snyder had scores of authentic flesh
and blood fans, those real stans were amplified
by a disproportionate number of bogus accounts.'
And adding that with this amplification
they were so powerful.
They got a major studio to spend major bucks
in a movie that had already tanked upon release
but their story also doesn't stop at the power
of this online presence and how bots helped that.
It also goes on to allege that Snyder himself
may have actually had something to do with it,
with the outlet saying that
'while Snyder denies this, one source claim that the
director hired a digital marketing firm to drum up
fan engagement in 2016 after his Batman V Superman film
was a critical dud.'
With the outlet also saying that 20 sources believe
that Snyder was manipulating these online campaigns
including one who said he was quote
'like Lex Luther, wreaking havoc.'
And again, you know Snyder denies this saying that actually
if anyone was trying to use a fan base to fight an agenda
it was Warner bros using these fans to get
HBO max subscribers.
But reportedly sources still alleged he weaponized
the fan base, including in one case where he wanted
to remove two producers names, Geoff Johns and Jon Berg ,
from the credits of his cut.
And according to this report, when his efforts did not work
multiple sources said he issued this threat
'Geoff and Jon are dragging their feet
on taking their names off my cut.
Now I will destroy them on social media.'
With the outlet noting that after months of online attacks
those names were eventually removed.
And also this is only some
of what Rolling Stone lays out in the piece.
It's very in depth and I'll link to it
down below so you can get the full picture of it.
But also very important to note
that piece is already receiving some backlash
including from Forbes who put out a piece
saying Warner Bro's bot claims just don't add up.
Referencing the report that said 13%
of those Snyder cut accounts were bots and arguing
'If 87% of the Snyder folks were real,
that's pretty significant,
and I don't think that warrants the takeaway
that Warner Brothers was duped into green lighting
the Snyder cut with an inauthentically large fan base
massively inflated by bots.
That's really not what the data is showing here.'
And saying that WB likely didn't even cave in
to release a Snyder cut
rather because like what Snyder said, they did this
because they wanted to drive those fans to
become subscribers at HBO max.
With the piece closing that while parts of this are valid,
'the story WB is selling here just doesn't track.'
And so that's why with this story
I'd love to pass the question off to you
especially if you're a, a Snyder or a DC fan.
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And then let's talk about catastrophic climate change
essentially turning our lives into action movies
except because it's the real world.
There are no stunt doubles or safety protocols
or really any of the stuff that makes it not horrible.
You know, as we're seeing more and more stories like this
we're also seeing bamfs pop up like this badass
mother fucker in Spain who you, you can't see him right now,
but he's driving that excavator out in that field
where it looks like a Game of Thrones dragon just came down
and lit the whole thing on fire.
And understand he's not out there for shits and giggles.
He's legitimately risking his life to fight wildfires
that have burned 75,000 acres of land
around the country so far.
And by risking his life,
I do not say that lightly, right,
authorities in that same region have reported the deaths
of a shepherd and a firefighter in the past few days.
And this guy had been digging a trench to try
and stop the flames from reaching a nearby town.
But the inferno quickly engulfs his vehicle
with him, climbing out, ditching it
and just running to escape the flames all around him
patting out flames on his clothes, stripping
but quickly getting back to his feet
and eventually making it through the field with his shirt
burned to rags his pants, still on fire,
with firefighters then arriving to rest control the battle.
You got a plane strafing the blaze with buckets of water.
And as for our bamf, he has reportedly suffered some burns
but has been treated at a local medical center,
then was airlifted by helicopter to a hospital.
With family and friends saying that as of Tuesday
he was conscious and able to communicate with his wife.
And understand this is not something that just
affects one man, right?
In the same region, we've seen this video
of a train being forced to stop because
of a wildfire with passengers watching the spreading flames
warily through their windows.
And I think it's important that we talk about stories
like this because there are still so many people out
there that think like climate change,
things are just gonna get a little warm.
Some idiot politicians saying, you know
we're just gonna get more beachfront property.
If we don't try to do better
things are going to get far, far worse
to a point where it doesn't matter how many badass
mother fuckers are out there are trying to protect us.
And then we have COVID news for Florida.
Right, so when the FDA finally authorized COVID vaccines
for kids from six months to five years old last month
many parents were very excited to move fast to
protect their infants and toddlers.
But that's actually not been an option
for many in Florida because of governor Ron DeSantis.
Right, so when the shots for young kids were first
authorized DeSantis warned parents against them,
also spreading misinformation about the essential
protections claiming they had not been sufficiently
tested in trial.
But even with that saying, you know, I will not stand
in the way of parents who do wanna vaccinate their kids
but then in a shocking plot twist
that no one could have ever predicted.
He turned around and did exactly that right.
DeSantis is literally the only governor who
refused to let pediatricians and healthcare providers
pre-order the vaccines.
And then he took it a step further
and blocked state programs and county health departments
from distributing or administering the COVID vaccinations.
There was also initially a lot of confusion as to whether
pediatricians, hospitals, and other physicians could
individually order the doses.
Forcing the white house to clarify that they could.
But according to reports, the intentional failure to
pre-order and lack of state involvement has
created a ton of problems.
Pediatrician's offices have vaccine wait lists
that are weeks long, doctors that have gotten doses
are getting calls from parents who live hundreds
of miles away, and some families are even considering going
to other states to vaccinate their kids.
And although doctors' offices and hospitals are working hard
to get the job done, there are still serious barriers
to access, especially for children
in underserved communities, poor families in rural areas.
Right, because those groups traditionally depend
on county health clinics for vaccination, but
DeSantis has blocked those clinics from administering doses.
And beyond that small and rural pediatrician offices
that lack cold storage or minimum dose ordering requirements
also rely on the county departments to
provide them with vaccines.
And all of this is happening during a very
concerning nationwide spike in coronavirus cases
largely driven by the Omicron BA.5 sub-variant.
Which experts consider the most transmissible strain
of the entire pandemic.
With the most recent CDC data showing that BA.5 now makes
up two out of every three new infections.
And unfortunately all the evidence we've seen so
far indicates that the strain is also more easily
able to infect people who were recently vaccinated
or recovered from COVID.
Now that said, experts have stated
that BA.5 does not appear more severe
than the other Omicron strains.
Also like with the previous strains,
you have experts saying the vaccines are still effective
at preventing serious illness and death.
Which is exactly why many say vaccinations are so important
because it seems like this wave is just getting started.
And according to the New York times cases are
on the rise in the vast majority of states, at least 40,
and both cases and hospitalizations have risen 20%
in the last two weeks with Florida being
among the top five states with the highest number
of cases per 100,000 residents in the last seven days.
So with infections on the rise, yet, again
it's gonna be important to watch what happens
across the country and in Florida specifically.
Which is also why in the meantime,
I'd love to know everyone's thoughts on this story.
But also specifically, if you're in Florida
what's your take of things?
But ultimately that is where that story
and today's show ends.
As always thank for being a part of the conversation
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