RELEASING MORE NEW INFORMATION
THAT WE HEARD TODAY.
NEIL?
>> Neil: THANK YOU.
I WANT TO GO TO BRET BAIER,
"SPECIAL REPORT."
THE INITIAL MARKS AND THE FORMER
PRESIDENT DISMISSING A WOMAN
THAT HE SAID HE BARELY KNEW.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS?
>> THIS IS AS COMPELLING
TESTIMONY AS WE’VE HEARD ON
CAPITOL HILL IN MANY YEARS.
IT WAS VERY REVEALING ABOUT THAT
DAY.
THIS IS A WITNESS WHO HAD DIRECT
CONTACT WITH THE MAJOR PLAYERS,
INCLUDING BEING RIGHT THERE NEXT
TO THE FORMER PRESIDENT AS HE’S
PRESIDENT ON THAT DAY, JANUARY
6th ON THE ELIPSE.
SHE QUOTES HIM SAYING TO GET RID
OF THE MAGNETOMETERS AND LET THE
PEOPLE WITH WEAPONS, THAT THE
SECRET SERVICE WAS CONCERNED
ABOUT THROUGH BECAUSE HE WANTED
TO FILL UP THE AREA.
HE SAID THAT THEY COULD ALL
MARCH TO CAPITOL HILL.
OBVIOUSLY THERE’S A LOT OF FOCUS
AND THE COMMITTEE’S FOCUSED ON
POINTING TO WHAT THE PRESIDENT
SAID ABOUT YOU NEED TO FIGHT
LIKE HELL FOR YOUR COUNTRY.
THEY HAVEN’T PLAYED THE SOUND
BITE WHERE HE SAYS YOU’RE GOING
TO MARCH PEACEFULLY AND
PATRIOTICALLY TO THE CAPITOL.
BUT THE DESCRIPTION, NEIL, OF
WHAT HAPPENS IN THE BEAST, THE
LIMO, THAT HE DEMANDS THAT HE BE
DRIVEN UP TO CAPITOL HILL AND
THE SECRET SERVICE AGENT SAYS
NO, YOU CAN’T, WE HAVE TO GO
BACK TO THE WEST WING.
THAT DESCRIPTION AS TOLD TO HER
FROM THE AGENT AND THE WHITE
HOUSE COUNSEL.
AND WHAT SHE DESCRIBES INSIDE
THE WHITE HOUSE ABOUT HIS ANGER
AND THROWING PLATING AND HIS
FOOD AGAINST THE WALL AFTER THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL TELLS THE
ASSOCIATED PRESS THAT HE DOES
NOT BELIEVE THERE’S ENOUGH
EVIDENCE TO OVERTURN ANY STATES’
VOTES IS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE
SHE’S IN THE ROOM.
THAT’S WHAT IS SO COMPELLING
ABOUT TODAY.
>> Neil: I’M SURE MANY OF THE
FORMER PRESIDENT’S DEFENDERS
SAID SHE WASN’T IN THAT CAR.
SHE WASN’T IN THE BEAST.
THE PRESIDENT’S CAR, WITH THE
SECRET SERVICE AGENT, WHICH
WOULD LEAD ONE TO THINK THE
COMMITTEE WANTS TO TALK TO THAT
AGENT OR AGENTS, RIGHT?
>> 100%.
WE SAW MICK MULVANEY SAY BEFORE
THIS OVER, WE WILL LIKELY SEE
THAT AGENT IN TESTIMONY AS WELL
AS PAT CIPOLLONE AND PERHAPS
MARK MEADOWS IN SOME SORT OF
TESTIMONY.
THERE WAS THIS REDIRECT FROM LIZ
CHENEY SAYING YOU WERE IN A ROOM
WITH THEM, THE AGENT AND PAT
CIPOLLONE WHERE THEY TALKED
ABOUT THIS INCIDENT, CORRECT?
SHE RELAYED THOSE SPECIFICS.
MY POINT IN THIS, WHERE DOES
THIS GO?
THE COMMITTEE IS LAYING THIS
GROUND WORK THAT THE PRESIDENT
WAS TRYING TO FORCE A TAKEOVER OF THAT ELECTORAL PROCESS AND
OF THAT ELECTORAL PROCESS AND
PERHAPS LAYING A GROUND WORK FOR
SADITIOUS.
WHETHER THEY CAN GET THERE OR
NOT IS DAMAGING TESTIMONY TO
LISTEN TO THE DETAILS OF THAT
DAY.
>> Neil: I’M THINKING OF THE
AGENT IF THIS IS ALL TRUE
REFUSING THE PRESIDENT’S DEMANDS
THAT THEY GO TO THE CAPITOL.
HE’S OBVIOUSLY LOOKING AT THE
PRESIDENT’S SAFETY AND NOT STIR
AGO HORNET’S NEST.
WE CAN ONLY SURMISE THAT.
THE PRESIDENT WAS FIGHTING HIM
ON THAT.
THAT IS A SURREAL SCENE IN AND
OF ITSELF.
BUT I’M JUST WONDERING, YOU
KNOW, THE TEMPER PART, WE KNEW
THOUGH ASPECTS FROM THE FORMER
PRESIDENT AND HIS FRUSTRATION
WITH THE PROCESS HERE.
BUT DID ANYTHING CHANGE WITH HER
REMARKS TODAY WITH HUTCHISON’S
REMARKS TODAY?
SHE HAD TESTIFIED AS I WAS
RAISING WITH AISHAH SOME TIME
AGO AND OBVIOUSLY AMPLIFIED THIS
TODAY BEST I COULD TELL.
THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS DAY
COMPARED TO THE FIVE OTHER
HEARINGS.
>> FIRST OF ALL, THERE WAS
ANOTHER BEHIND THE SCENES
DEPOSITION WITH HER AFTER SHE
GOT NEW LAWYERS.
THE FIRST LAWYERS WERE PART OF
THE TRUMP CREW.
THESE NEW LAWYERS, WHATEVER SHE
DECIDED TO DO, SHE DECIDED TO DO
IT AGAIN AND ANOTHER DEPOSITION,
WHICH LED TO THE SOUND BITES
TODAY.
I DO THINK THEY’RE -- SOME OF
THE COMPELLING TESTIMONY WAS THE
EARLY DAYS FROM JANUARY 2 TO
JANUARY 6 WHERE SHE’S APART OF
CONVERSATIONS.
RUDY GULIANI SAYS IT’S GOING TO
BE A BIG DAY.
MARK MEADOWS SAID IT COULD GET
REAL BAD.
SHE REMEMBERS HEARING ABOUT THE
PROUD BOYS AND OATH KEEPERS AND
THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT
WEAPONS AND WHAT SHE HEARS A
DAY.
IT DOES BUILD A CASE, BUT MOST
HID LINE GRABBING IS THE
DESCRIPTION OF THE PRESIDENT’S
ACTIONS.
I THINK THAT WE HADN’T HEARD
THAT BEFORE.
WE’VE OBVIOUSLY HEARD BILL BARR
SAY WHAT HE SAID ABOUT HIS
ANGER, THE FORMER PRESIDENT’S
ANGER.
WE SHOWED NOTE ON TRUTH SOCIAL,
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS SAID THIS IS
NOT TRUE.
NONE OF IT IS TRUE.
CHRISTMAS
CASSIDY HUTCHISON IS UNDER OATH
ON CAPITOL HILL AND YOU HAVE TO
TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
>> SHE’S HEARING THIS
SECONDHAND, IS SHE NOT?
>> YES, SHE IS.
BUT SHE’S IN THE ROOM RELAYING
WHAT HAPPENED INSIDE THE BEAST
AND SHE SEES THE FALL-OUT FROM
WHATEVER WAS HAPPENING IN THE
DINING ROOM.
I THINK MORE AROUND MORE
COMPELLING IS HER DIRECT
KNOWLEDGE OF THE CONVERSATIONS
THAT WERE HAPPENING BEFOREHAND.
>> Neil: I’M CURIOUS WHAT YOU
MAKE OF THIS.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT’S A
PRESIDENT WHO SEEMS VERY
UNHINGED, VERY ANGRY, FURIOUS
THAT THE WHOLE PROCESS HE HAD
HOPED TO STALL OR STOP IS MOVING
ON.
NOW WE HAVE -- THIS IS A
BACKDROP, REASON TO BELIEVE,
MAYBE THIS IS AMONG THE REASONS
WHY HE WAITED SO LONG TO RESPOND
TO IT.
CLEARLY THE COMMITTEE IS NOW
GOING TO CHASE A NEW AVENUE
HERE.
RIGHT?
>> I THINK SO.
I THINK THERE’S OTHER HEARINGS
TO COME THAT LAY OUT MORE ABOUT
THAT DAY.
WE SAW OUR COLLEAGUES A COUPLE
OF THEM IN TEXTS THAT WE KNEW
AND WE REPORTED ON HERE SAYING
THE PRESIDENT NEED TO GET OUT
THERE AND GET THIS TO STOP.
THERE WERE MANY OTHER VOICES
SAYING THAT THAT DAY.
I THINK WHAT THE NEXT HEARING IS
GOING TO BE IS THE TICK TOK OF
WHAT HAPPENS THAT DAY AND THE
HOURS AFTERWARDS.
SOMETHING THAT CASSIDY HUTCHISON
TESTIFIED TO THAT PROBABLY MORE
OF THAT.
THERE’S A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT
SECURITY THAT HAVEN’T COME UP
YET.
THEY PROMISED THAT IT WILL COME
UP IN THIS HEARING AND WHAT WAS
THE PRESIDENT AGREED TO OR NOT
OR NANCY PELOSI.
BUT TODAY WAS A BIG DAY AS FAR
AS THIS HEARING AND IT DID
DELIVER FOR THE SURPRISE WITNESS
THAT THEY PROMISED.
>> Neil: SO FINALLY ON THAT
POINT ABOUT THE NEED FOR
SECURITY AND ALL OF THAT, IF
WE’RE TO TAKE HER AT FACE VALUE,
THAT THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT
WHETHER THIS COULD GET VERY, YOU
KNOW, RAUCOUS AND VIOLENT AHEAD
OF THE APPROACHING JANUARY 6th
ELECTION CERTIFICATION WITH THE
ELECTORAL VOTES, AND OBVIOUSLY
REPUBLICANS WILL WANT TO HEAR IF
THESE WARNINGS WERE RELAYED TO
NANCY PELOSI AND OTHERS, THAT WE
JUST DON’T KNOW.
>> WE DON’T KNOW.
WE DON’T KNOW IF THIS COMMITTEE
WILL GO DOWN THAT ROAD.
THAT’S WHY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TO
HAVE JIM JORDAN OR SOMEBODY
CROSS EXAMINING AND ASKING THE
QUESTIONS.
THAT’S NOT HOW THIS COMMITTEE IS
OPERATING.
WE PUT THAT OUT THERE.
THAT’S A CAVEAT IN HOW THIS IS A
SCRIPTED PLAY OF THIS TESTIMONY.
IT DOESN’T DISCOUNT OR SOMEHOW