♪ Bob an Brad ♪
♪ The two most famous ♪
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- Hi folks, I'm Bob Schrupp, Physical Therapist.
- Brad Heineck, Physical Therapist.
- And we are the most famous physical therapists
on the Internet.
- In our opinion of course, Bob.
- Today we're gonna show you how to use a TENS unit
with inner thigh pain, especially correct pad placement.
Yeah, we're gonna show you at the end of the video,
just to give a little teaser here, Brad.
We're gonna show you a treatment to do
for inner thigh pain that is not TENS related
in case you wanna do this along with the TENS.
- Right, it's always nice to go after two approaches.
- As far as which TENS unit to use,
Brad and I have tried dozens and dozens of units.
All were good, all were fine, all were powerful,
but a lot of 'em have poor instructions.
And so, after reviewing the lot of them,
we decided that we're gonna endorse iReliev.
And that's the product that we're gonna talk about
in other videos.
So if you wanna see our step-by-step instruction
on how to use the iReliev 1313,
the iReliev 5050 and the iReliev 8080,
those are ones that are, some are chargeable,
some are not changeable, some are wireless,
some are not wireless.
- Right, so.
- Gives you kinda a whole choice.
- Right, yep.
- So, if you wanna see those, go to BobandBrad.com,
our website, go to programs, under the heading,
and then go to TENS, and then under TENS,
you'll see the different videos on 1313.
- Sure.
- So today, what we're basically gonna do in this video
is show you the correct pad placement,
in case you have inner thigh pain.
Now this would be stuff like hip arthritis,
or hip abductor strain, something that happened on there.
- Yeah, the groin strain, pretty common
with athletic, active people.
- So, we're gonna show you first a smaller area,
when you're gonna use one channel and two pads.
- Right, so we're talkin' one channel,
there's, here's one channel, channel one, channel two,
and each channel has two pads, electrode pads.
We're gonna, the yellow ones are gonna represent
channel one and this is green will be channel two.
So we'll take channel one, it doesn't matter--
- The pads are actually not that color, they're black.
We just put the tape on there,
so you could distinguish between channel one, channel two.
- Right, and that'll make more sense as we go on here.
I lost my train of thought Bob. (laughing)
- Well, now we're gonna talk about,
let's say you have pain right there, right muscle.
- Right, so let's say my pain is right here,
the red spot represents where the crux of the pain,
or the majority of it.
Again, these are options, there's no one way
that's gonna work best for all people.
Everyone's a little different,
your pain's a little different,
but a good way to start--
- Yeah, it's an experiment basically is what you're doing.
See which one works for you.
- Put one pad, right over the most painful spot
and then you have options on where to put the second one.
Typically, you know the leads would be hooked up.
I don't have 'em hooked up right now
just for, it's easy to move 'em around
and not get 'em in the way.
But, I've put it here.
Don't put 'em too close to each other, not too far,
you know, one to two inches is probably adequate,
but definitely not closer than the width of one of these,
so not closer than that.
We could start there, turn it on,
see how it responds to managing that pain.
You may have to get up, if the pain is worse
when you're up walking around,
you know turn it on while you're walking,
test it, and then--
- You see the hair on your legs, by the way, Brad,
reminds me that (laughing) the hair will impede
the conductivity a little bit,
so you're better off shaving, if possible.
- Exactly.
- And also clean the skin, because the oils
from your skin can affect the stickiness on the pads.
- And it's a little more painful,
when you pull it off with the hair on.
- Sure.
- Some of the hair, loose hair gets on here,
which makes it, those pads won't last as long either.
So there's a number of reasons to do it.
So we could put one there, we could try it here,
we could try it up in this area, or down here.
I mean, there is--
- All those different options.
- Yes, you try it and see.
Now, if you put it on,
and it really makes your muscles contract,
'cause you know E-Stim,
or E-Stim I should say, TENS will do that.
If you move the pad,
'cause you don't want that muscle contracting,
it's bothering you, just move the pad
and you'll find locations where it's less,
- [Both] Less likely to contract.
- So then, you may go like this.
Here's the painful spot, we could go here and here,
here and here.
And again, there's nothing to say, you can't, yep.
So, if you're gonna shave, make sure you shave
a large enough area, so that it's clear when you use 'em
and you don't ruin them, a problem.
- [Bob] So that's if you're gonna use a single channel,.
Now if you're gonna have a larger area,
and wanna use four pads,
Brad's gonna demonstrate that.
Again, we've got the yellow is representing channel one,
and the green is representing channel two.
- Yep, and again, the most painful area again is here,
may not be that point, because it might be more spread out
and that would be a good reason to use four pads, as well.
You could do it either way.
So, I'm gonna put channel two here and here.
Now, with the TENS unit, like with all electricity,
it'll run from one spot to the other on the same channels.
It's going from here to here.
It's gonna go from here to here.
So, if you imagine the currents running through
the surface of the skin there and there,
it creates an X.
So, you can do it here, and this is similar
to with one channel, you can simply move it.
- Right, you can make like an X or make like a cross,
any one is fine.
- Yep.
- You can do referred pain too.
Let's say the pain is coming from the hip,
you could put like two electrodes on the hip,
or two pads on the hip and then two pads down here,
follow the nerve.
- Sometimes you can have that pain wrap around
and it's the groin area, you know.
So we may go like ooh, that feels good, ooh.
There and there.
- Hurts so good.
- And then these would be back here,
you know where that, following that pathway--
- Of where it started, originated from.
- Exactly.
- Again, it's an experiment, give it a try.
We're now gonna show you now, what we recommend.
A lotta times, especially if it's a muscle strain,
it's really good to massage the area
and these are pretty heavy muscles,
pretty good muscles. - Yeah, yeah
they're some there.
- So we often recommend that you might use
a hand held massager.
We like the Renfo one.
By the time this comes out,
we may even have our own massagers.
They're talkin' about us
having some Bob and Brad massagers.
This is a less expensive model.
This probably runs around, I hate to even give a cost,
because they change the number on me
and then, people are gonna be upset with me.
- We'll ballpark it.
- $40 maybe?
30 to 40, somewhere in there.
- I thought they were, like you say, 35, 45,
depending on--
who's really in there. - Really a pretty good price.
- It is.
- You wanna use that one, Brad.
- Yep, now with this, it's got, this has got,
they got different heads you can attach on.
This is a sphere, a round ball and it's smooth
and I put my pant leg down for a reason,
because it works better over the cloth.
- They're gonna have trouble seein' that one.
Maybe you use this one.
- Oh, yeah, yeah that's true, black on black.
You got dark pants too.
- Well, I'm a little bit lighter,
but anyway, why don't you show them.
This is the Massage Gun.
Now this is a lot more expensive,
but it really translates.
It really percusses and gets in there deep.
If you're serious about massaging your muscles,
like you wanna do it on a regular basis,
for muscle relief and yeah.
And it's got a whole bunch of attachments, too.
- Different, this is a ball, there's a bigger ball.
There's some that are more,
- Yeah, it's more pointed. - Pointed,
if you wanna get really into one spot deep,
that works well.
- It's even got one like this.
- Oh, the double header.
You can't go wrong with that.
And so the big difference is,
this one has more travel, it gets in deeper,
and it's more powerful.
And that one is not quite as much.
So, I depends if you're really large person,
big muscles-- - Right, bulky person.
- You want this one.
- Or, if you're maybe doing more your arms,
this might be more appropriate for you.
- Yep, closer to the bony areas.
- Yeah, you always mention your friend,
the, his son, the hockey player.
They use these on a regular basis.
- Yep, they do.
As a matter of fact, he's got pain right there right now.
- Does he really?
- Yeah, yeah, some groin pain.
- He's got a lotta pains, doesn't he?
- He's like his dad, he kinda over does things.
- Oh, the son does.
- Yeah, yeah, they both kinda overdo their workouts,
but that's all right.
- All right, thanks for watchin' folks.
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