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THANK YOU
THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME OUT TO BE HERE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
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HAVING ME. >> WE APPRECIATE IT.
>>> ALL RIGHT.
SOMEONE ELSE WHO IS MAKING
HEADLINES FOR A COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT REASON, KHLOE
KARDASHIAN.
KARDASHIAN. SHE HAS BEEN IN THE NEWS
RECENTLY AMONG ALLEGATIONS
THAT HER NOW EX-BOYFRIEND
TRISTAN THOMPSON CHEATED ON
HER WITH A CLOSE FAMILY FRIEND
THAT WAS VERY EMBARRASSING FOR
THE WHOLE FAMILY JORDAN WOODS
BUT DESPITE HIS PREVIOUS
INFIDELITIES SHE CONTINUES TO
DEFEND THE MAN WHO SHE HAS A
CHILD WITH, UM, AND A LOT OF
PEOPLE ARE WONDERING WHAT IS
THE DEAL?
THE DEAL?
THE DEAL? YOU KNOW, CLEARLY, THIS IS A
FLAWED RELATIONSHIP.
FLAWED RELATIONSHIP. PROBABLY ISN'T THE BEST ONE
FOR YOU.
FOR YOU.
FOR YOU. AND YOU NEED TO MOVE FORWARD
AND CARA IS HERE TO BREAK IT
ALL DOWN FOR US.
BEFORE WE GET TO HER, HOW
IMPRESSIVE JERMAINE?
IMPRESSIVE JERMAINE? >> JERMAINE, I KNOW!
WHOO!
WHOO!
WHOO! I'M
WHOO! I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
I'M WORRIED.
I'M WORRIED. LIKE I'M YOUR MOTHER.
I WANT YOU TO BE SAFE.
PLEASE BE CAREFUL.
>> I KNOW.
>> VERY HANDSOME.
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES. >> WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW UP.
WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW UP.
HELP HIM ACHIEVE HIS GOALS.
>> LIKE NOW ON TO THE
KARDASHIANS.
KARDASHIANS. >> I'M SORRY I HAD THAT TO DO
THAT.
THAT.
THAT. >>
THAT. >> NO.
>> NO.
>> NO. IT'S FINE.
IT'S FINE. BUT I MEAN --
>> WELL -- SAID SHE WAS STILL
DEFENDING TRISTAN AND I WANT
TO REVISIT THE STORY AGAIN
BECAUSE I'M NOT A KARDASHIAN
FOLLOWER BUT I THOUGHT THIS
WHOLE DEBACLE WAS VERY
INTERESTING.
INTERESTING. JORDAN WOODS IS BEST FRIENDS
WITH ONE OF HER SISTERS BUT
THEY'RE SUPER CLOSE.
TRISTAN HAD A TRYST WITH,
OKAY.
OKAY.
OKAY. AND
OKAY. AND SO FOLLOW ME ON THIS.
JORDAN'S DAD WORKED ON "FRESH
PRINCE OF BEL AIR" WHICH WILL
SMITH WAS ON.
HER FATHER DIED WHEN SHE WAS
YOUNG.
YOUNG.
YOUNG. THE SMITHS TOOK HER IN.
SO NOT ONLY IS SHE LIKE BEST
FRIENDS WITH THE KARDASHIANS,
THEN SHE IS ALSO VERY TIGHT
WITH THE SMITHS SO I THINK
PROBABLY MAMA JADA TOOK HER
UNDER HER WING AND SAID YOU'RE
GETTING A LOT OF BACKLASH
ONLINE.
ONLINE.
ONLINE. JORDAN SAID HER FAMILY
COULDN'T LEAVE THE HOUSE, THEY
WERE GETTING SO BULLIED
BECAUSE ALL THIS CAME OUT AND
THEN KLOE KIND OF PILED ON AND
SAID A FEW UNFORTUNATE THINGS
ON TWITTER.
ON TWITTER. >> BUT CAN WE GO BACK TO WHY
SHE WAS EVEN INVOLVED WITH
HIM?
HIM?
HIM? I'M
HIM? I'M CURIOUS.
I'M CURIOUS. >> THAT IS -- SHE DOES BEAR A
LITTLE BIT OF RESPONSIBILITY.
SO --
SO --
SO -- >>
SO -- >> YEAH.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> AFTER THE RED TABLE TALK
SHE SAID:
PEOPLE
PEOPLE GOT ON KHLOE KARDASHIAN.
KARDASHIAN. SHE IS 21.
WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES.
SHE WAS OUT ALL NIGHT.
SHE SAID IT WAS A PARTY
AFTERWARDS AND SHE WAS
COMFORTABLE BECAUSE SHE KNOWS
TRISTAN BECAUSE SHE IS SO
CLOSE WITH KHLOE AND THEN THEY
ENDED UP KISSING ON THE WAY
OUT.
OUT.
OUT. ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID
ON THE RED TABLE TALK.
WHETHER YOU BELIEVE HER OR
NOT, SHE SEEMED CREDIBLE BUT
KHLOE IS GETTING BACKLASH SHE
IS 34 GOING ONLINE CREATING
THIS TOTAL FRENZY GOING AFTER
JORDAN AND NOT PUTTING ANY OF
THE BLAME ON TRISTAN.
>> I SAW -- I KNOW YOU -- ONE
OF THE TWEETS I THINK IT SAID
THAT HE WAS -- SHE WASN'T KIND
OF AN SOLVING TRISTAN OF ANY
WRONGDOING BUT THAT HOW COULD
SHE DO THAT?
ESPECIALLY FOR THE FACT THAT
YOU HAVE A CHILD TOGETHER.
I'M GOING TO BACK IT UP AND
SAY, FIRST AND FOREMOST, DON'T
GO TO A PARTY -- I UNDERSTAND
HE IS A FAMILY FRIEND.
BUT LET'S JUST SAY THAT YOU
THINK THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AN
INKLING OF FEELING FOR
SOMEBODY?
SOMEBODY?
SOMEBODY? THEN YOU DON'T PUT YOURSELF IN
THAT SITUATION.
THAT SITUATION. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU
DEFINITELY DON'T ALWAYS KNOW
AT THE RIPE OLD AGE OF 21.
>> IT WAS HER THIRD NIGHT
STRAYING OUT UNTIL THE EARLY-
MORNING HOURS.
MORNING HOURS. >> WHY ARE YOU OUT, GIRL?
>> AN AIR OF MYSTERY ABOUT
YOURSELF?
YOURSELF?
YOURSELF? WHY DON'T YOU STAY HOME
SOMETIMES.
SOMETIMES. MAKE EVERYBODY WONDER, WHERE
IS SHE?
IS SHE?
IS SHE? >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. BUT --
BUT --
BUT -- >>
BUT -- >> COME ON.
>> KHLOE SAID HE IS THE FATHER
OF MY CHILD AND SO I DON'T
WANT TO PUT OUR BABY IN THE
MIDDLE OF ANYTHING SO SHE IS
TRYING TO PROTECT HIM BUT SHE
REALLY ONLY DID THAT TWEET YOU
JUST REFERRED TO AFTER SHE GOT
KIND OF -- ON TWITTER BECAUSE
PEOPLE ARE SAYING THIS IS
RIDICULOUS WHY ARE YOU GOING
AFTER JORDYN SHE SUFFERED
ENOUGH I GUESS PEOPLE SAY.
I DON'T KNOW.
THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT
TRISTAN CHTED OR HER WHILE
SHE WAS PREGNANT ABOUT THE
BABY THAT'S ALSO TRUE.
>> HE HAS A PATTERN.
EXACTLY.
EXACTLY.
EXACTLY. >> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES. >> AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS
SOMETHING IT'S GREAT
ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION REAL
TALK DISCUSSION IS YOU KNOW,
IS A CHEATER ALWAYS A CHEATER?
ARE THERE -- CAN YOU REALLY
CHANGE THAT PATTERN?
IF YOU DID IT ONCE, DID YOU
LEARN A LESSON AND COULD YOU
POSSIBLY NEVER DO IT AGAIN?
I DON'T KNOW.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT
BECAUSE WE HAVE A LIST OF FIVE
SIGNS OF WHY PEOPLE CHANGE.
THE FIRST ONE IS PART OF WHO
HE IS.
HE IS.
HE IS. ALL RIGHT?
ALL RIGHT? SO THIS COULD GO FOR ANYTHING.
EVEN IF YOU DID CONVINCE HIM
TO GIVE UP WHAT HE LOVES THE
MOST, YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE THE
PERSON YOU'RE LEFT WITH.
SIGNS NEVER CHANGE, NUMBER
ONE.
ONE.
ONE. >>
ONE. >> GREAT POINT.
>> THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING
-- IT'S PART OF WHO HE IS.
OR LIST LIFESTYLE, WHATEVER
THE CASE IS.
FUNDAMENTALLY AT THE CORE OF
HIM, HIS CHARACTER.
>> I JUST THINK YOU HAVE TO
FIND A PARTNER THAT YOU'RE
GOING TO BE OKAY GROWING WITH
BECAUSE WE'RE ALL GOING TO
CHANGE.
CHANGE.
CHANGE. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. WE'RE ALL GOING TO EVOLVE.
>> HOPEFULLY.
>> HOPEFULLY. THAT'S THE GOAL.
AND SO YOU WANT SOMEBODY WHO
IS GOING TO SUPPORT YOU IN
THAT.
THAT.
THAT. OBVIOUSLY IF THEY'RE CHEATING,
LYING, DOING SOMETHING
HORRIBLE.
HORRIBLE.
HORRIBLE. YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP A MAN HOW
YOU CAUGHT HIM.
AND SHE --
>> WOW.
>> WOW.
>> WOW. >> HE WAS WITH SOMEBODY ELSE
WHEN SHE MET HIM.
I THINK IF YOU LOOK BACK AT A
LOT OF RELATIONSHIPS, YOU WILL
SEE WHEN THEY STARTED, IF IT
WASN'T A PARTICULARLY HEALTHY
ONE, IT PROBABLY DIDN'T START
IN THE BEST WAY.
>> EXCUSE ME.
WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY?
SHE?
SHE?
SHE? TRISTAN'S OTHER GIRLFRIEND WAS
PREGNANT WHEN HE AND KHLOE GOT
TOGETHER.
TOGETHER.
TOGETHER. I DON'T KNOW KNOW THESE THINGS
BECAUSE I DON'T KEEP UP WITH
THE KARDASHIANS BUT THAT'S
INCREDIBLE.
INCREDIBLE. HOW CAN YOU THINK THAT --
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES. OKAY.
OKAY.
OKAY. >>
OKAY. >> THE SECOND ONE IS --
>> HE'S LIAR.
HE SAYS HE IS GOING TO CHANGE
AND ANYTHING ELSE TO GET YOU
TO BE QUIET.
YOU CAN EITHER LISTEN TO HIS
LIP SERVICE FOR YEARS OR LOOK
AT HIS ACTIONS AND FINALLY
MOVE ON.
MOVE ON.
MOVE ON. OF COURSE, EVERY MOTHER IN
AMERICA HAS TOLD US ACTIONS
SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.
>> OR THE GREAT MAYA ANGELOU,
PEOPLE WHO IS YOU WHO THEY ARE
THE FIRST TIME, BELIEVE THEM.
>> NUMBER 3.
>> THIS ONE IS INTERESTING.
I HAVE ACTUALLY HEARD THIS
BEFORE.
BEFORE.
BEFORE. HE IS PROUD OF IT.
SO HE IS A REFORMED CHEATER
THAT COMPLIMENTS OTHER PLAYERS
ON THEIR GAME.
DON'T HATE THE PLAYER, HATE
THE GAME?
THE GAME?
THE GAME? CHANCES ARE, HE IS NOT DONE
DOING YOU WRONG.
>> WAIT.
>> WAIT.
>> WAIT. HE IS PROUD OF --
>> HE WILL BE LIKE LOOK AT
THAT GUY.
THAT GUY.
THAT GUY. HE'S ALWAYS WITH ANOTHER LADY.
DON'T HATE THE PLAYER, HATE
THE GAME.
THE GAME.
THE GAME. >> OH, LORD.
I DON'T LIKE THAT, NO.
AWFUL.
AWFUL.
AWFUL. >>
AWFUL. >> MAYBE -- THERE ARE 15 IN
THE ARTICLE.
THE ARTICLE. WE NARROWED IT DOWN TO 5.
>> SO HE DOESN'T -- THIS
APPLIES TO MOST THINGS IN
LIFE, RIGHT?
LIFE, RIGHT? YOU DON'T HAVE ANY
CONSEQUENCES.
CONSEQUENCES. YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP BEHAVING
HOW YOU BEHAVE.
>> I LOVE THIS.
NEVER HELPS AROUND THE HOUSE.
>> YOU DO IT FOR HIM BUT NOW
YOU'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT A
CLEAN HOUSE AND HE SAID HE
DOESN'T SEE A PROBLEM.
>> OH, MY GOSH.
SO TRUE.
SO TRUE.
SO TRUE. THERE'S NO CONSEQUENCES TO HIS
ACTIONS AND THERE PROBABLY
NEVER HAS BEEN.
PERHAPS HE HAD THE -- JUST
MOWED DOWN ANY STRIFE OR
ANYTHING PROBLEM THAT COULD
POTENTIALLY GET IN HIS WAY.
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES. THERE IS AN ARTICLE IN THE
"NEW YORK TIMES" THIS WEEKEND
CALLED THE BULLDOZER PARENT.
>> REALLY?
>> REALLY? >> THEY HAVE A SNOWPLOW AND IT
WAS TALKING ABOUT ALL THAT.
>> IT WAS LIKE, YEAH, YOU
CLEAR OUT EVERYTHING OUT OF
YOUR CHILD'S WAY SO THEN
YOU'RE RAISING SOMEONE WHO
DOESN'T HAVE ANY DIFFICULTIES
AND, OF COURSE, WOULD NOT KNOW
HOW TO GET OUT OF THEM OR HOW
TO WORK THROUGH THEM.
WHAT WAS NUMBER 5?
>> IF THEY ARE OVER THE AGE OF
30, YOU CAN'T TEACH AN OLD DOG
NEW TRICKS, ESSENTIALLY.
I THINK PEOPLE CAN CHANGE.
BUT I THINK YOU JUST HAVE TO
BE SMART.
BE SMART.
BE SMART. >> YOU HAVE GOT TO BE SMART.
ALWAYS LISTEN TO YOUR GUT.
WOW.
WOW.
WOW. >>
WOW. >> YOU GOT INTO IT IN FIVE
MINUTES.
MINUTES.
MINUTES. >> WE SURE DID.
WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM
YOU.
YOU.
YOU. "TRENDING WITH TRENT" IS
COMING UP NEXT.
LET'S TALK ABOUT JERMAINE
AGAIN.