>> Bill: MARK MEREDITH FROM THE
WHITE HOUSE.
>> Dana: LET’S BRING IN FORMER
SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO.
WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE
WITH US THIS MORNING AS WE TRY
TO MAKE SENSE OF ALL OF IT.
FLASHBACK TO ONE THING THAT
PRESIDENT BIDEN SAID AT HIS
PRESS CONFERENCE THAT CAUSED A
LOT OF COMMOTION AT THE TIME.
THIS IS ABOUT AN INCURSION.
WATCH.
>> President Biden: IT’S ONE
THING IF IT’S A MINOR INCURSION
AND WE END UP HAVING TO FIGHT
ABOUT WHAT TO DO AND NOT DO.
IF THEY’RE CAPABLE OF DOING ON
THE BORDER IT WILL BE A
DISASTER FOR RUSSIA IF THEY
FURTHER INVADE UKRAINE.
>> Dana: YESTERDAY PUTIN
ORDERED TROOPS INTO THE REGION
AND THE WHITE HOUSE IT SEEMS
LIKE THE RESPONSE EVEN THOUGH
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE QUITE
ROBUST WAS TIMID AND YOU HAD
THE SPLITTING OF HAIRS AND THE
QUESTION ABOUT WHAT RUSSIA
ACTUALLY DID YESTERDAY.
DO YOU SEE WHAT RUSSIA DID
YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AS A MINOR
INCURSION OR INVASION?
>> DANA, THIS IS ANGELS ON THE
HEAD OF A PIN.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON THIS
MORNING.
ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN SO
MUDDLED IN THE WAY THEY’VE MADE
VLADIMIR PUTIN HAVE THE UPPER
HAND THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE
TIME.
EVERY TIME PUTIN ACTS WE ARE ON
OUR BACK FOOT.
HE DOES -- HE HAS NO FEAR OF
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
AND THE RESPONSE WE MIGHT TAKE.
EVEN THIS MORNING HE HAS NOT
MOVED PEACEKEEPING TROOPS IN
BUT MOVED IN HIS TANKS AND WE
ABANDONED UKRAINE WITH OUR
DIPLOMATS BUT THAT’S NOT ENOUGH
TO SUPPORT THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE.
THIS HAS BEEN A MODEL OF HOW
WHEN YOU FAIL AT DETERRENTS AND
WHEN YOU FAIL TO DEMONSTRATE
THE RESOLVE NECESSARY TO
PROTECT THINGS THAT MATTER NOT
ONLY TO THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE
AND EASTERN EUROPE BUT TO THE
PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA.
WHEN YOU AREN’T PREPARED TO
DEFEND THOSE THINGS THAT MATTER
MOST THE BAD GUYS IN THE WORLD
WILL DO WHAT YOU ARE SEEING
VLADIMIR PUTIN START TODAY.
>> Bill: FOR FOUR YEARS
DEMOCRATS SAID THAT DONALD
TRUMP WAS -- JOE BIDEN WAS ONE
OF THEM.
LAY OUT FOR US WHAT A PROPER
DETERRENCE WOULD HAVE BEEN IF
YOU BELIEVE YOU COULD HAVE
STOPPED PUTIN WHEN YOU WERE IN
OFFICE.
>> BILL, I CAN SAY THIS.
THE ONLY THING THAT HAS CHANGED
IN THE LAST 14 MONTHS IS THE
LEADERSHIP IN THE UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA.
WE ALL HAVE KNOWN VLADIMIR
PUTIN A LONG TIME.
I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH HIM.
HE HASN’T CHANGED.
HIS VISION FOR REINSTATING THE
GREATER SOVIET UNION WAS THE
SAME FOR THE FOUR YEARS I WAS
IN OFFICE ALONGSIDE PRESIDENT
TRUMP.
WE WERE DETERMINED TO CONVINCE
HIM THERE WERE THINGS HE COULD
NOT DO AND PUT LOTS OF
SANCTIONS ON HIM.
WHERE WE COULD WORK WITH HIM WE
DID.
WE HAD A MODEL FOR ENGAGEMENT
AND DETERRENTS THAT STOPPED HIM
FROM DOING WHAT YOU SAW HAPPEN
THIS MORNING.
>> Bill: BUT WHAT COULD OR
WOULD HAVE STOPPED HIM?
>> WELL, WE STOPPED HIM WITH AN
IDEA THAT SAID THE UNITED
STATES IS GOING TO PROPERECT
THE THINGS THAT MATTER.
CONCEPT OF STRATEGIC DETERRENCE.
THESE ARE THINGS PRESIDENT
BIDEN COULD HAVE DONE.
STOPPED IN NORD STREAM 2 MONTHS
AGO.
BEGUN TO PUT REAL SANCTIONS IF
PLACE.
I SAW WHAT THE PRESIDENT SIGNED
LAST NIGHT.
I MUST SAY VLADIMIR PUTIN SAW
THEM PUT SANCTIONS FOR THOSE
TWO PARTS OF UKRAINE AND A
GREEN LIGHT FOR MORE AGGRESSION.
WE COULD HAVE HAD FORCES TO
SOME OTHER COUNTRIES AND
RALLIED THE WEST AND EUROPE.
THEY HAVEN’T BEEN INTERESTED OR
FOCUSED ELSEWHERE AND I’LL ADD
ONE MORE THING.
NOT JUST ABOUT THIS PLACE WITH
RUSSIA AND UKRAINE.
RUSSIANS CONFRONT US IN SYRIA.
XI IS HAPPENING WHAT IS
HAPPENING HERE AND CHAIRMAN KIM.
EACH TIME WE FAIL TO
DEMONSTRATE AMERICAN RESOLVE
WHETHER THE DEBACLE THAT WAS
AFGHANISTAN THAT CAUSED 13
AMERICANS TO PERISH AS WE
EXITED.
THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS
THAT CONVINCE PEOPLE LIKE PUTIN
HIS DREAM OF RECREATING THE
SOVIET UNION HE MAY BE ABLE TO
DO UNDER THIS LEADERSHIP’S
WATCH IN THE UNITED STATES.
>> Dana: THEY SPENT A LOT OF
TIME SAYING NATO HAS NEVER BEEN
MORE UNITED.
EVEN ITALY WHEN IT COMES TO
SANCTIONS IS SAYING WE’RE NOT
SURE.
WE’LL LOOK.
AS LONG AS IT DOESN’T HAVE TO
DO WITH ENERGY.
THE ENERGY POLICY THE EUROPEANS
DECIDED ON A COUPLE DECADES AGO
TURNED OUT TO BE A DISASTER.
DO YOU THINK NATO HANGS
TOGETHER HERE?
>> I’M COUNTING ON IT.
IT MUST.
THIS IS IN THE FIRST CHALLENGE
TO THE EUROPEAN ORDER, THE
EUROPEAN SYSTEM.
EASTERN EUROPEY AN COUNTRIES
NEED COUNTRIES LIKE FRANCE,
GERMANY AND ITALY TO COME IN
SUPPORT THEM IN THEIR TIME OF
NEED WHEN THERE IS A REAL
SECURITY INTEREST.
PUTIN HAS BIGGER PLANS.
HE HAS MORE AGGRESSION IN MIND
AND IT WILL TAKE A UNITED
EUROPE TO LEAD THE EFFORT TO
CONFRONT THAT.
ONE LAST THOUGHT ON ENERGY.
THE OTHER THING WE DID IN THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS MADE
SURE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES AMERICA
WOULD PROVIDE THEM WITH ENERGY.
THIS ADMINISTRATION CAME IN AND
SHUT IT DOWN.
I’M SURE THE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES
REALIZE AMERICAN ENERGY SOURCE
WHETHER OIL AND CRUDE AND GAS
FLOWING FROM THE UNITED STATES
TO THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE OR
WHEREVER PROBABLY WASN’T GOING
TO BE AVAILABLE TO THEM AND
THEY ENGAGED IN ACTIVITIES THAT
PROPER TEKTD THEIR ENERGY
INTERESTS.
YOU WILL SEE HIGHER GAS PRICES
IN THE UNITED STATES.
FARMERS IN KANSAS WILL SEE
HIGHER FERTILIZER PRICES
BECAUSE ENERGY COSTS GO UP.
IT HAS IMPACTS AT HOME AND
SOMETHING THE PRESIDENT BIDEN
HAS FAILED TO PROTECT US
AGAINST.
>> Bill: THANK YOU FOR YOUR