- Frost, Killer Frost.
Hi everyone, welcome to Happy Cool.
My name's Americ, this is Sandrine
and we are going to review The Flash season three,
episode seven, titled Killer Frost.
(evil laughter)
I don't know what's up with that.
- What's with the laughing?
- I don't know, it just came.
- We usually have Live Chats for The Flash
but this week we won't be available at our usual time
so we're doing this recorded review.
But we will be back doing live reviews next week
and in case you don't know the live reviews are
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- Let's move on to talking about the episode.
First some quick thoughts.
Kevin Smith directed the episode.
- [Americ] This is his second foray in directing an episode.
- [Sandrine] Of The Flash.
- [Americ] Of The Flash.
- [Sandrine] Another big one, yeah,
he gets some good episodes!
- [Americ] He gets some good episodes, that was pretty dope!
- HR was like really helpful this episode,
and I remember that you weren't really convinced
with his ability to help the team,
and I was defending him, because I was like,
you know what, maybe he's gonna prompt people,
okay, how about this, how about this,
I feel like he's the one who thought of Caitlin
and Cisco helping Flash,
and then he's also the one
who thought of how to track Killer Frost,
I feel like he's really helping everyone work together well.
- He's the Steve Jobs of The Flash universe.
I really loved this scene between Barry and Iris
where she was giving him a pep talk,
basically saying, you know, you're not a god,
you can't fix everything, but you have to lead,
you can't just be sorry all the time,
and I liked that.
She's right, you know, yeah, ultimately it's his fault,
he apologized, how many ways can he apologize, right?
Like at some point he's gotta say like,
I'm sorry, all right guys, I'm sorry I did it,
I won't do it again.
- Obviously he's not doing it again,
because he's actually taking responsibility
for those changes.
- Yeah, exactly.
- Wally finally got his powers.
I mean it didn't work out exactly how we
expected it to work out,
but he's excited, he was like, yeah, so excited!
- Yeah, he was pretty excited.
- It was nice to see.
- It was nice to see, I'm sort of a little worried though,
because we don't know the consequences of his change, right.
- Well there were two possible consequences.
First of all they took him out of the cocoon
a little too early,
so we don't know how that's gonna affect him,
and then the second one is that
he was given his power by Doctor Alchemy.
Is maybe the bond between him and Alchemy broken
because they took him out of the cocoon too soon?
I don't know.
Lots of questions, I'm just excited for Wally.
- [Americ] Now let's talk about Savatar,
AKA the god of motion, AKA Speed God,
what the freaking hell is that?
He is so fast!
He is ridiculously fast, you know,
he's not even, he's just a wormhole machine!
- [Sandrine] You know how Zoom wanted to be fast?
He should have gone after Savatar.
- But he couldn't, he couldn't have gone after Savatar.
He's so fast, he goes from one wormhole to another.
- He's like--
- He's everywhere at the same time.
It was like impressive,
just to see him take Barry on a ride,
it's like, hey buddy, what's up, flopping around!
That's Barry, yo.
- Caitlin though, as mentioned, Savatar is fast,
he's not immune to cold and being frozen,
once he defrosts himself though he can go,
but you know, there's a split second
where Caitlin was like "wooosh"!
- Don't mess with Killer Frost, that's all I'm gonna say.
- So it's good to know that there is some way to stop him.
- To slow him down, at the very least.
- I want to see more of him.
- Oh yeah, for sure.
We definitely want to see more of Savatar,
definitely a very interesting addition to the universe.
- Ooh, this season is so good!
Let's move on to Caitlin, slash Killer Frost.
So Caitlin is going towards the Killer Frost direction
a little too much in this episode,
and to be fair, she's trying to get rid of the powers,
which is ironic, because she's becoming Killer Frost
in order not to become Killer Frost, if you think about it.
- Yeah, that's true.
- Now what I'm worried about is that Savatar and Alchemy
seem to have plans for her,
we don't really know what they are,
but that guy that she went to see,
like a disciple or something,
he seemed to say, oh, you're Caitlin Snow.
Well how does he know that, why does he know her,
and he even knew Killer Frost.
- He said that Savatar showed them the future,
so maybe he has the ability, like Barry,
of either going into the future and showing people
this is what's gonna happen,
or for some reason bringing a vision of the future back.
- But isn't that worrisome?
- It is extremely worrisome,
for sure not a good outcome for anyone.
But it's good to see that Caitlin,
although she was leaning towards the dark side,
when she had that scene with Barry
and Barry was like, you know, if you want to go, you can go,
but you gotta kill me.
- I know!
- She, look at this, this is a mess!
- I got so emotional!
- She was such a mess!
But look, it was an emotional moment,
but it also highlighted
that Caitlin was still Caitlin, right?
Even though she was leaning,
ultimately she was still who she was.
- [Sandrine] Well yeah, you can tell, even physically,
it was clear that the appearance of Killer Frost hasn't--
- Wasn't fully done, yeah.
But it's interesting to me that what Vibe saw
still hasn't really happened.
- It hasn't happened, because she was full on Killer Frost.
- Yeah, she was full on Killer Frost,
so I think there's gonna be instances where--
- Unless it's a Killer Frost from another earth.
- Which is possible.
Anything is possible.
- Caitlin, ah, she's like my favorite character this season.
- She's pretty awesome.
We can't really gloss over the fact that
when she was still Killer Frost-y, you know,
leaning towards it, she kissed Barry.
She didn't have to kiss him!
She could have literally just put her finger on his face
and done the same thing.
- But she's evil, so she's messing with Barry.
She's messing with Barry, she's messing with everyone.
She's got a little evil side of her.
- Maybe there's a part of Caitlin that's all like,
ooh, Barry, what is up!
I'm just saying, I'm putting it out there,
I'm putting it out there in the universe, you know.
Although I'm not for it, let's be clear,
this is still Carry country, guys,
this is still Carry country.
Cara from Supergirl and Barry from The Flash.
- Yes, the ultimate 'ship for America.
- The ultimate 'ship!
- [Sandrine] Speaking of 'ships,
did anybody think about like Julian and Caitlin?
- No, no one thought of those!
- Just me?
- You're so weird!
You literally just see a male and a female character
and you're like, oh my God!
- Isn't that what happens?
That's what happens to me all the time, I'm like, oh,
yeah, these two, like...
I'm really easy when it comes to 'ships.
- You need help!
- Just put two characters--
- You need extra help, oh my god, why!
But the question now that we're gonna pose to you,
what is the 'ship name, huh?
Huh?
Caitlin and Julian,
or Killer Frost and Doctor Alchemy.
- Killer Alchemy!
(screaming in delight)
- That is awesome, that is good!
- That's a good one!
See, they were meant to be!
- Killer Alchemy, what is up?
- She can bring him to the good side!
- Killer Alchemy!
- It will be like a pull,
you know, like a push and pull relationship,
when he's like, no come to the darkness,
and no, come to this, it's like--
- Guys, guys, if you like Killer Alchemy,
hashtag Killer Alchemy in the comments below, let us know.
- Moving on from the 'ships,
because obviously that's just my crazy brain doing its thing
let's talk about Julian!
The revelation.
- Okay, there are two things about Julian today
that I want to mention.
I want to mention the fact that,
after the confrontation, after doing the deal with Barry,
he said, Barry, you got to go, all right, buddy!
I don't like your moral compass, buddy,
I don't trust you!
And then we find out that he's Doctor Alchemy all along!
- [Sandrine] I think there's something more to it than that.
Quite a few of you had mentioned in live chats
that possibly he has like a split personality,
so he doesn't really know that he's Alchemy.
- It's very possible, I think that's a possibility.
Although he didn't seem like he was switched
from one side to the other.
- Maybe he remembers. - Maybe he's in denial.
- Maybe he just remembers when the Savatar calls for him,
or something?
- Yeah, I will say, though,
the whole reveal that he was Alchemy
was kind of underwhelming for me.
- Yes, I guess we figured it would be too easy
for him to be Alchemy,
I think we talked about that a lot during our live chats,
for The Flash.
And from the beginning, like when they announced,
oh, there's Alchemy and we were like, it could be Tom Felton
because, you know, he's this new character,
and he's Tom Felton, he has to be a big character,
but it seemed almost too obvious,
where I'm like, well they can't make him Doctor Alchemy,
because there's really no other person
that could be Doctor Alchemy except Julian,
so it can't be him, because it's too obvious,
but I guess it was.
- They kind of went with the obvious route there.
- They kind of went with it, yeah.
- It's a little bit underwhelming.
I mean, I don't hate it.
- No, I'm fine, but...
Man in the Iron Mask wasn't as obvious, right?
- No, it was not, for sure, for sure.
- Like we could figure out that it was Jay Gerig,
but then you couldn't necessarily figure out
that Jay Gerig was like Barry's father
from a different earth, right.
So that was a little more,
that's why I expected this to be at that level.
- But now we know that Julian is Doctor Alchemy,
they're definitely just regrouping,
going back at it with Savatar the Speed God,
just ready to get this show on the road.
And I'm really curious to see how this is gonna go.
- Yeah, I mean, I personally am excited that he's Alchemy,
because I wanted him to have something bigger to do
than just being Julian.
- [Americ] Now that Barry has essentially quit,
I'm actually a little bit happy about it.
- [Sandrine] Yes, what was he doing there anyway?
- [Americ] He didn't really have a job.
- [Sandrine] Was he even there?
- He was barely there,
people were like, oh, you're here?
Like, finally, god!
His ethics at work were questionable at best, right!
- Plus, couldn't he work at Star Labs now?
- Of course, I feel like--
- They have enough money to pay him,
I'm sure he'll work there.
- Yeah, I feel like now he can just fully focus
on being The Flash and everything,
so it's gonna be interesting to see post-CSI Barry,
you know, instead of just, you know,
the whole secret identity kind of thing.
- Although he might eventually go back,
if Julian is Doctor Alchemy,
chances are that he won't be staying there either
for very long.
Of course we would love to hear what you thought
about the whole Alchemy reveal.
Did you think it was Julian?
Were you underwhelmed by the revelation like we were?
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