JUDICIAL RECORD, WHILE JOE
BIDEN, DEVOUT CATHOLIC, IS
HOPING TO BECOME ONLY THE SECOND
CATHOLIC PRESIDENT AFTER JOHN F.
KENNEDY.
MARK SHRIVER IS ONE OF THE
CO-CHAIRS OF CATHOLICS FOR
BIDEN.
SISTER SIMONE CAMPBELL, SCUFF
DIRECTOR FOR LOBBY FOR CATHOLIC
SOCIAL JUSTICE.
SIMONE, IT’S BEEN A WHILE SINCE
WE’VE BEEN OUT THERE ON THE BUS,
IT’S GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> IT HAS.
>> BUT WE’RE ON A VIRTUAL BUS
RIGHT NOW.
>> A VIRTUAL BUS.
AND MARK, YOU RECENTLY WROTE FOR
"THE CATHOLIC REPORTER" THAT MR.
BIDEN AND MR. TRUMP HAVE VASTLY
DIFFERENT POLITICAL BASES BUT
BOTH ARE BATTLING OVER RELIGIOUS
LATINOS IN PLACES LIKE FLORIDA
AND ARIZONA AND ARE TALKING TO
PERSUADABLE WHITE CATHOLICS IN
THE MIDWEST IN PLACES LIKE
WISCONSIN AND MICHIGAN.
MARK, HOW IMPORTANT DO YOU THINK
THE CATHOLIC VOTE IS TURNING OUT
TO BE?
THAT WAS FROM "THE NEW YORK
TIMES," BY THE WAY, WAY, NOT YOU
PERSONAL -- I WANTED TO CLARIFY
THAT, TOO.
>> YES, THANK YOU, ANDREA.
I’M SORRY I INTERRUPTED YOU
THERE.
I THINK THE CATHOLIC VOTE
HONESTLY IS A BIG BLOC.
AND I THINK WHAT THE ARTICLE
THAT I WROTE AND NATURAL
CATHOLIC REPORTER IS ABOUT THE
CONCEPT OF A BUNCH -- HUMILITY.
IT IS DECENCY.
IT’S EMPATHY.
AND YOU SEE THESE STORIES, YOU
SAW THEM WITH THE YOUNG KID WHO
STUTTERED AT THE CONVENTION AND
THE ARTICLE I WROTE ALSO TALKED
ABOUT THE EFFORTS WITH THE KID
THAT HAD DEVELOPMENTAL
DISABILITIES.
THIS GUY REALLY CARES ABOUT
PEOPLE.
AND I HEAR IT ON OUR BUS TOUR
ACROSS THE COUNTRY I’M DOING
WITH JENNIFER GARNER WHERE WE’RE
TALKING TO CHILDCARE WORKERS.
OVERWHELMINGLY WOMEN AND THEY’VE
NOT BEEN HEARD IN THE PAST AND
JOE HAS A GREAT FORUM ON
REACHING OUT, MAKING SURE
THERE’S INVESTMENTS IN CHILD
CARE CENTERS ACROSS THIS
COUNTRY.
AND THAT’S REALLY WHAT’S
IMPORTANT.
HOW DO WE GET THIS COUNTRY BACK ON ITS FEET LED BY A GUY WHO HAS
ON ITS FEET LED BY A GUY WHO HAS
HUMILITY AND DECENCY.
>> GETTING BACK TO THE ARTICLE
YOU WROTE.
YOU WROTE ABOUT THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS WHEN JOE BIDEN STILL
OLYMPICS WHEN JOE BIDEN STILL
MANAGED TO SHOW UP.
DESPITE THE BUSY SCHEDULE, AS
VICE PRESIDENT, WHEN SARGE
SHRIVER DIRKSDED, HE WAS THERE A
THE CHURCH.
AND THERE’S SO MANY INSTANCES
WHERE HE GAVE THE EULOGY, SHOWED
UP FOR YOUR MOM.
SO HE DOESN’T MAKE A BIG DEAL
OUT OF IT.
HE’S JUST THERE FOR PEOPLE.
>> IT’S, YOU DONT SEE THAT OFTEN
IN POLITICIANS.
THEY WANT TO BE FRONT AND
CENTER.
THEY WANT TO TALK.
WHEN MY MOM DIED HE SLIPPED IN A
SIDE DOOR A NOTE AND ASKED TO
SPEAK, AND ASKED TO TALK TO THE
PRESS.
AND YOU SEE THAT CONSISTENTLY
THROUGH HIS LIFE.
NOT JUST WITH MEMBERS OF THE
SHRIVERS AND KENNEDYS.
HE’S DOING WITH THIS EVERYDAY
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE THAT HE’S INTERACTED
WITH.
AND I MENTIONED LISTENING TO THE
YOUNG MAN WHO HAD THE STUTTERING
PROBLEM LIKE HE DID AS A YOUTH.
TALKING TO SPECIAL OLYMPICS
ATHLETES.
WE SATA THE TARMAC FOR THREE OR
FOUR HOURS.
FLEW TO IDAHO BECAUSE HE MADE A
COMMITMENT AND STUCK TO THE
COMMITMENT. AND ATHLETES FROM ALL OVER THE
AND ATHLETES FROM ALL OVER THE
GLOBE WERE THRILLED THE VICE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
FLEW BACK.
HE STICKS TO HIS COMMITMENT,
STICKS TO HIS WORD, HAS
HUMILITY.
THOSE ATTRIBUTES WILL RESONATE
WITH PEOPLE OF ALL FAITH.
JEWS TALK ABOUT --
THEY ARE TENETS OF THE GREAT
RELIGIONS TO REPAIR THE WORLD,
TO HELP COMMON GOOD.
AS A FRIEND, HE’LL DO THAT AS
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
AND THAT’S WHAT’S REALLY
IMPORTANT.
THIS COUNTRY AT THIS POINT IN
TIME.
>> WELL, SISTER SIMONE, THE
SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO
IS IN ROME, AT THE VATICAN.
PRETTY MUCH SNUBBED BY THE POPE
AFTER HE WENT AGAINST THE POPE’S
POSITION ON CHINA BECAUSE HE IS
SO VIGOROUS AGAINST CHINA
BECAUSE OF COVID.
AND ALSO MET WITH THOSE AT THE
VAT GAN AGAINST POPE FRANCIS.
HE REALLY GOT POLITICAL.
HAD A NUMBER OF MEETINGS TODAY.
OF COURSE, AMBASSADOR GINGRICH,
THE AMBASSADOR THERE.
JUST SEEMS TO BE A REAL ATTEMPT
TO POLITICIZE THIS AND POPE
FRANCIS WASN’T HAVING ANY OF IT.
>> WELL, THAT’S CERTAINLY TRUE.
POPE FRANCIS FOLLOWED HIS
REGULAR PRACTICE OF NOT MEETING
WITH DIGNITARIES IN ADVANCE OF
AN ELECTION IN A PARTICULAR
NATION.
BUT I THINK WHAT’S MOST
DISTURBING TO ME IS THAT
SECRETARY POMPEO WANTS TO CREATE
THE VATICAN AS AN EXTENSION OF
U.S. POLICY AND HAS NO
KNOWLEDGE, NO AWARENESS OF THE
WORK OF THE VATICAN TO CARE FOR
THOSE WHO ARE CATHOLICS WITHIN
THE CHINESE CONTEXT.
AND IF I COULD JUST ADD THAT,
ONE OF MY SISTERS, A MEMBER OF
MY RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY, OUR
CHINESE SISTERS, SHE STAYED
BEHIND AFTER THE REVOLUTION AND
MINISTERED TO HER PEOPLE.
AND ENDED UP IMPRISONED IN THE
MAO REGIME AND DYING IN PRISON.
WHAT POPE FRANCIS HAS DONE WITH
HIS NEGOTIATIONS, WITH THE
CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS TO ALLOW
CATHOLICS TO FLOURISH IN CHINA.
YES, THERE’S BEEN GIVE AND TAKE
IN THIS RELATIONSHIP, BUT IN A
SENSE HE’S DOING WHAT MY SISTER,
MY -- THE SISTER IN MY
COMMUNITY, GAVE HER LIFE FOR.
IS CARING FOR CHINESE CATHOLICS.
AND SECRETARY POMPEO’S NAIVE
IDEA OF WHAT RELIGIOUS LIBERTY
IS, IS REALLY, I THINK, A
VIOLATION OF THE ACTUAL CARE FOR
CHINESE CATHOLICS.
AND IT HAS ME GRAVELY CONCERNED
THAT FOR POLITICAL STUNTS, FOR
ELECTORAL STUNTS, THAT THIS
ADMINISTRATION WOULD PROMOTE
SOMETHING AS THIS.
>> SISTER SIMONE, SO GOOD TO SEE
YOU.
HOPE YOU’LL COME BACK SOON AND