So here's the thing, I have seen quite a lot of people
online saying that the M1 Pro and Max MacBook Pros are the
best video editing tools on the market, and they just Crush
every PC that is out there.
You know, I don't know where you're standing on this, but
I'd like to just have an open conversation.
Let's look at some benchmarks.
Let's really find out which is better and which is worse.
So I've got been Kaiser here who is testing their grated
laptops and looking at the laptops in terms of creative
perspective.
You know, how good are they as tools when video editing and so
on?
So, tell me about your video editing benchmarks and test
when you did the tie line before moments in Premiere Pro.
Yeah, absolutely like the timeline performance is really
where I was most impressed, because export times, yeah,
like maybe you saved 10 to 15 seconds compared to like a
legion five Pro.
So that really doesn't matter that much in my opinion.
Now, if you're, you know, exporting a full, you know,
feature-length film that could make a big difference.
But those people are exporting anything longer than 15 to 20
minute video.
Most people, right?
Most creative professionals are shooting ads or whatever.
So the playback is really where it stood out to me.
And
the M1 Max dropped with a 6kb rod nine minute clip 9 frames
out of 16 thousand frames in a project.
So I imported a nine-minute 6kb, raw clip, ran it in the
timeline Premiere Pro and drop nine frames out of 16000 the M1
Pro dropped eighteen hundred frames out of 16000.
So the M1 Pro is pretty on par with most
PC laptops anywhere from an RT X 3062 r-tx 3080, right the M1
Max, because of all the encoding and transcoding that
takes place in the software.
And it does really, really well.
Now, if we move towards something like after effects
rendering, however, you know, for talking about doing after
effects rendering, you're going to end up with a lower score
than an 6:30 80, because a dedicated GPU still has more
power in that specific context.
Just like right now, gamers are still getting better frames per
second in certain AAA games, then on a MacBook Pro, because
they're built to do certain tasks.
Well, so that's my overall perspective, and we can jump in
as more questions.
So I've got some benchmarks over here for a Premiere Pro.
So timeline before mint is probably the most important
when it comes to the video editing, because rendering you
can do overnight, but you can't do timeline before winds
overnight, right?
So if the timeline before man sucks, then like the whole
thing is just, you know, false.
The B I've got some benchmarks here from 12 900k 5950 X Risin
and some of the M1 maximum Pro.
So if you have a look at those over here, then you can see
that at the 12 900k with RDX 3090 64 gigabytes of ddr4 five
Ram got 1474 standard overall score in Puget bench, Premiere
Pro Scott.
If we go further down to like em Max, and in one pro, you can
see that the M1 Max is like 30% slower.
And the M1 Pro is about 36 percent slower than the overall
like 12 900k.
Obviously, we have the rights to this 50 x over here as well,
but they are slower in overall performance.
And this is kind of the interesting question I have,
because a lot of people are asking, should I get the M1?
Actually, I'm going pro for video editing.
And I know we're talking PC build versus one of these.
But let's say somebody's trying to make a decision between the
three and one pro and One Max and a PC build.
We're not seen a drastic difference in performance, in
my opinion, between an M1 Pro and M1 Max, right?
What do you see?
What do you think?
Like if somebody's trying to decide between the three?
Which one should they actually be deciding between the max or
the pro with the PC built?
Okay, so here's the thing.
Wait talking about the 12900 K, which is the best.
What you know, it wasn't I I 9 right.
But have a look at the I 512 600k, right?
I just saw the right below it, right?
No, that's the three below.
That's the lowest one of the 12 June at the moment released.
Oh, okay, okay, that's alright.
I 5 right.
It's got ten cause, so it's pretty much the same as the
Apple N1 Max.
So it's got eight performance calls to efficiency cause we
have a look at those performance benchmarks over
here, and I'm still getting better scores than M1 Max
roughly about 20 percent better, right?
To me, that is absolutely insane, and I can see that the
12 600k, like if your PC fan it is actually getting faster
scores slightly faster than the Risin 950 950 x16 called
Monster PC or CPU that everyone is talking about.
So the I5 the lowest one is very, very impressive, and you
say, what's so impressive about it?
Well, like apple.
It is kind of like an SOC as well, because it has graphics
on board as well, with video encoders, which really help
with video editing and timeline before Mance.
So a lot of times, even if you don't have a powerful GPU with
that I-5 in the onboard Graphics, you're getting great
performance.
So for instance, you wouldn't need a massive GPU cost-wise,
you wouldn't need a 38 or 39 T to match the performance of one
of these laptops know what?
What GP are you running with that I5 that is run with r-tx
3090, but I wanted to do 39 T.
So all of them are equal to not have any bottlenecks in any
other front about on the CPU run as fast as we can.
And we can see which one is like, you know, faster.
But obviously the everyone Max has 32 core CPU there, or GPU
there as well, but I think you would still get, like similar
before moments when you run down from 1392 36 to 37 T,
you'll get like similar performance as m 1 and Max or
M1 Pro versus the
I 512 600k.
Yeah, I can agree with that, because I run a 3900 X on on My
Laps on my PC build, and it's pretty much even with these two,
and I have a 16-6 TTI
ya.
I have lower graphic performance, higher CPU
performance, and I'm about the same as these laptops.
I mean, that is really impressive in terms of Apple
side of things to be able to compete with a full-on tower,
you know, release something like that on a battery power.
It is like it's insane, right?
That is absolutely insane.
Yeah.
And that's why it's like the are great, you know, like I ran
all the tests on battery power.
I ran none of the tests again to power off, no?
And that's the result I got, except when running, like, I
don't know 650 watt power supply, or something like that
to power all the rest of the stuff.
It's insane right in terms of what's has like performance per
watt.
Obviously, apple is like absolutely killing it.
I wish, though it's not even a competition.
So that's why, you know the real question in video editing
desktop PC versus MacBook Pro is okay.
What is your budget?
And what is your lifestyle?
Huh?
Let your future.
Oh yeah, that's a big thing that the budget thing you
mentioned that is a massive thing I think you can get very
PC build was 1500 to 1700 dollars out the door.
And you know exactly just as powerful as one of these.
Yeah, Dono.
Sorry.
Okay, I know you can't get it always in terms of like you
can't work with on a on a PC, because it just doesn't work in
your workflow how you work.
That's another topic that we have already covered.
So go and find it on the channel.
Yeah.
But in let's say that if you can have both of them, then I
think in terms of best bang for buck, a PC build will get you
more for your money.
The only concern I think a lot of people have is, and we're
starting to see, we're going to dip out of this.
The scalper situation, it still is pretty bad thing.
That's probably the only reason people might be going with a
laptop PC versus a MacBook Pro right now, because you can
actually get them without spiked prices other than that,
if we're in a perfect world where you know parts are
available and prices are not inflated because of scalping,
it really is the best bang for buck as a desktop PC.
And so this is my thought.
You could get a eight hundred fifty dollar refurbished
MacBook Air as you're on the go laptop, great battery life, all
that, and then pick up a desktop tower for about 1500 to
1700 dollars and your below 3000 dollars.
If my math is right.
If my math is right, well below 3000 dollars, and you haven't
even gotten out the door with one, he's yet, and you have two
systems which are for perfect for both use cases.
Yeah, on-the-go productivity, laptop video editing at your
workstation,
just a piece.
It's absolutely right.
And I think
when people are doing video editing and choosing a video
editing PC for like their systems.
Now, I think, like 90% of the people will be super happy with
the lowest I5 CPU i7 okay, you going to see like, extra little
bit more in terms of the cost before Mance, but the cost is
going to go up very, very quickly.
It's not going to be linear like that.
So for 99% of the people, right, you're going to be editing 4K
video, which is going to be, yeah, well enough for this is
nice 12600 KZ
and easy for these MacBook Pros.
What is your use case?
And also keep in mind that as you go up in there 5 to 7 to 9,
you're not getting this Sara Lee massive increase in single
app performance.
What you're getting is more multi core performance.
This is a this is It's a conversation that rarely
happens, is when I go from an I-5 to an I-9 yeah, I get about
20% increase in performance, but I don't get anything else.
Like if I'm not multitasking, I don't get the value.
I don't get that five to seven hundred dollars in value.
Oh yeah, I don't.
The value comes in.
I'm running 15 apps at once from I9 to I-5 not I can export
three seconds faster.
Oh yeah, that's the thing is, if you're considering a PC
build versus a MacBook Pro, you don't need an I-9 to compete
with the MacBook Pro.
What you need is an i5 to i7.
And then what you can do is just close down a couple apps,
you know, don't run it everything at once, even though
you probably could, but it's less of a
you know, it's less of a I don't know if it's lateral
performance increase and more of a horizontal performance
increase when you go from I-95 dy9, I think, especially when
you start spec'ing out the SSD specs for MacBook Pro.
If you're looking at the let's say, the Mac CPU and the max GPU.
And then what 32 gigabytes of RAM at that point, the the
MacBook Pro is can be very, very, very the tempting
compared to PC, you know, builds, because they're very
similar price.
But as soon as you need more storage for your MacBook Pros
and more RAM than suddenly, the PC value becomes much bigger
than the MacBook Pro, because you can quickly upgrade easily.
Probably the part breaks fracture, that fraction of the
cost, grab that part.
Replace it, you know, solutely for any for under $200 for most
Parts in a PC build outside of the CPU or the GPU, which are
usually, in my opinion, what I've seen it at like the last
things to fail.
Yeah.
And the surrounding elements fail first exactly.
And the the ssds like apple, made a big deal about the seven
point four gigabytes per second as these speeds, which you're
not actually getting in all the configurations you need at
least certain amount of space, or certain amount of capacity
until you start hitting that speeds on them.
Where's on the PC?
Like moving having the PC a 40 Jen drives?
You know, for ages you can get them from laptops.
They run over seven thousand megabytes per second.
But believe me, we don't need that.
I don't know a single person who needs a seven thousand
megabytes per second, and we me drive.
But let's say you do need them.
Then you can easily Ali get the same capacity, same speed
drives for a PC for half the cost of the MacBook Pro.
I think that's the biggest thing is like, apple knows how
to mark it.
Okay, that's them from the beginning.
And that's not a bad thing.
That's a good thing, because they create raving fans, and
raving fans are fun, and they are exciting, and they and they
buy into your product.
They bind to a great product.
This is a great product for me.
I would say, yes, they did it this time, the last iteration
of the MacBook Pros.
But they did it this time.
And so what I'll say is
they make things that they do sound like they're the first
one to do it.
Okay, just like them saying they gave you an HDMI port know
the morons took it away and gave it back to you.
Okay?
Like
it's silly like it's really silly.
We can't like we're not Windows Fanboys.
We're reality.
Fanboys like we believe in looking at data.
Yeah, he has a Mac.
The I have a Mac.
Here I have to my I use a Mac almost every single day.
But 2015 MacBook Pro, I am not a Windows Fanboy.
I like Mac OS I, hey, love it.
It's awful.
I like 20% of Windows OS, okay, 20%.
I like that.
I can right-click, basically, but you can control click anyway,
stupid.
But what we're trying to say is, we are data Fanboys like that's
what we look at.
We look at the data.
We look at the usability, and we compare apples to apples.
And people often say, well, you're comparing oranges to
oranges.
No, we're looking at cores and price points in value and
components.
Absolutely.
Yes, if you want to run cool, quiet, no battery, no plug-in
battery life performance, then yes, get this.
But if you don't care about that, and many people don't.
Many people don't want to walk around the house in their
underwear editing videos.
Many people are perfectly fine plugging their laptop or their
desktop PC and and editing.
I am one of those people.
I'm not offended by fan noise.
It's nicer to not have fan noise.
But I put on my headphones and edit my video and don't hear
fan noise.
So in conclusion, Premiere Pro which one is better?
Pc versus MacBook Pro, right?
Let's underline some of these things are some of the things
that you might have seen online that I think is important to
underline a little bit as well.
Pure benchmarks and pure.
If you get the best of PC and verb, a Best of, You know, and
One Max MacBook Pros, the MacBook Pros are a little bit
slower, right in terms of everyday usage.
And when you editing 4K video, right, then you're not going to
see a big difference, because both of these systems can do it
easy, and you're not going to notice the difference.
Yeah, I think it's really like looking at your lifestyle,
looking at what you do on a day-to-day and making a
qualified decision.
Like my example, you could buy a Mac Book Air for your
on-the-go and a PC build for your at home work, and you'd be
great and be almost about the same price as buying the M1 Max
as your only computer.
Yeah.
Now the issue is, if they are Max dies, you're literally out
of any type of work.
Okay, so that's one idea.
But if you need on the go, if your documentary filmmaker, you
know, my co-workers husband, her husband is documentary
filmmaker, and he's on the go, and he's shooting, you know,
very expensive cameras with high frame rates and high
resolutions.
So he would need this type of power on the go.
He would need to be in the middle of Africa,
making sure they got the shot, you know, and not having to
wait on the MacBook Air to like
the playback.
You know, that makes sense for him.
But if you're somebody who doesn't have to be on the.
Go and you just walk back into your studio and edit for half
the price.
Then that makes more sense.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think if you're asking me, I will like, which one should I
get?
I would ask you first, can you live without the portability
aspect?
If that's that's kind of one question, if you can, I think
the 12600 K PC build that you can get is going to be
unbelievable.
A 4K video editor,
any, any video editing codec you throw at it, and I think
you're going to get better bang for your buck, and you can, you
know, use those parts later on in the future and things like
that.
But like Ben was saying, if you are in the middle of Africa
shooting, I don't know the planet Earth three with David,
what's his name?
You know, Edinburgh there, you little guy?
Yeah, the guy?
Oh yeah.
Then then you need that type of thing, I think.
For most people, only thing hang on Earth that currently
does what it does.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, that's why it's amazing.
It is amazing.
I mean, we're not saying that MacBook Pros are bad like,
please, don't get us wrong.
I hope Tiffany's, I hope no one's like, you know, watch
half the video.
And then add, these guys are staying back windows there boys
Windows went by,
but was saying, there are many awesome tools.
But just to put it in perspective,
like PC builds are very, very powerful.
It's not like wiping all the PC World out of you know the
market.
They still have their place.
Macbook Pros have this still their place.
You just have to figure out like, which place are you?
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