Hello folks kirk and jason here with Kirk Giordano plastering the day I'll show you guys how to do an
interior ceiling now the ceiling here why are we doing it see these pipes right here those copper
pipes guys hire a plumber check three use your gut feeling to find out who knows what they're doing
and hire that fella this guy did it a slight leak the whole ceiling came off so what they have here
is this is the old lath and plaster ceiling well that's a old lath and plaster ceiling you see all
these little black spots there's a whole bunch these little black spot what they originally had
here is old laughs what is old laughs its strips of wood and they put it across then you leave a
gap about 3/8 of an inch 1/4 inch and the new plaster it here's my mushrooming through those
would laugh now the wood laughs is from the 1910 to about 1960 and they stopped doing that stuff
guys sheetrock was invented so when I came here I said well gee why not just put sheetrock over
it and they said well we want to keep everything original with laughs and plastering so because
they don't sell wood laughs anymore we're gonna put metal on here we're gonna do it just like if
it's a hospital or a school we're gonna put a rib laughing across here then we're gonna
coat that with certain cements I'll get into that later so what we're gonna do now is we
got a hard hardwood floor here it's a pretty hardwood floor so we don't want to damage it
what we're gonna what we're doing here is we're gonna put plastic then we're going to put tarps
underneath in our scaffold because the weight of all of us Jay's going to be on and I'm going to
be on it we're gonna be plastering the weight we don't want the scaffold leg to dig into the
wood so we're gonna put a cardboard under that I brought some shims right here this is just
one by ones because right here we have something to attach the metal of course we're gonna attach
to the studs here and right here this one's kind of beat-up so I'm gonna sister this in
here and Hammer it that way we have something to nail as we do this I'll explain more about the
submit plasters gypsum materials why and what have you there's different materials we have to
use here some are compatible some are not so when once we get this set up we have a whole
platform that we could walk on without having to watch every step we don't want to put ten plank
here and then we have to watch our step or go through the plank so we're gonna platform this
out once we get to that stage we'll show you what the system I'm prepared to use on this particular
ceiling because you guys might have this same situation and not watch sheet rock instead want
real plaster well we'll show you that when we get to that stage okay guys we have set
up everything that takes longer to set up than to do what we're about to do we're gonna attach
the wire now Dan you guys hold it up here's a tip guys with this this mesh here this is
rib lath rib lasas once we're done it's gonna be like plywood up here again it's for hospitals and
schools rib laughs the key to this guys is to be straight if you're really straight the next
pieces will align really well if they're not gonna waste a lot of time so I'm going into the stud
what well you folks won't see is I'm using inch and a quarter crown staples all I need are seven
eighths of an inch staples but because I already had the inch and a quarter for my last purposes
I could use it for this you folks grab that next sheet Dan and what would I do guys is if this is
sturdy the rest of the job will go really well if this is Wiggly and wavy you're going to plaster it
it pushes this up and then when it comes down it all goes into your face so let's see what we want
to do is is get this we want to be looking into the V so we get that into the there we put this
V into the existing V we overlap and this saves a ton of time guy why well if you have if you have
this wiggling when you go to plaster say well plaster it and if it goes up and then it comes
down the plaster will fall all over your face how do I know this I've done about fifty feelings and
after fifty series you learn what to do and what not to do it's kind of like all this plastic we
got around this whole plate it makes life so much easier in the long run because we are gonna drop
mud we are not using a gypsum base mud we are gonna we're not using struck the line if veneer
technically I would however we've got a situation here where notice this finish it's a heavy sand
finish it's a 16 20 it's a sand finish here and if I were to use say up here any of the gypsum
based products such as struck the light any of the veneers diamond Imperial and there's ten others I
won't be able to match this finish here so what we're going to use is a Portland based base
coat and then we're going to come back with a La Habra heavy sand finish to match the finish here
it would be a lot easier if I were able to put a gypsum base coat on here such as Imperial on but
a Portland based finish coat would not adhere you got to know you got to know your materials guys
number one is seventy percent of what we do is knowing what materials to use and what materials
you cannot use so we got that part licked we're gonna go ahead and finish the lath and once this
all done we're going to go ahead and show you how we put the first coat and we are going to be using
a Portland base cement and we're going to use a Portland base cement for the finish coat so we
can match this finish I can't add sand to say the limes the struck the lights or the gypsum
and come up with a uniform finish like this it just won't work guys it'll drag so when we get to
that stage again we'll show you we're going to go ahead and finish getting all this lath up and why
am I wearing these goggles here because we did a pretty good job of removing all the nails and all
the dust there's still dust and it goes in your eyeballs you're screwed guys so we're the best
pair of glasses you got and we'll see you guys in less than a second okay guys let me go over
a few things before we get started we're about to mix the mud and the mud we're going to use is we
got half hour to put it on otherwise it's set hard and it sets stronger than foundations it's a forty
seven 100 psi crazy strong here's what we got a have guys we've got to have it sturdy what happens
if we have it loose well we put the mud on and it goes up and when it springs back down and go
flying and it goes all over you I've been covered with this stuff on many many jobs so it's all got
to be set very well gypsum or Portland I'll take gypsum any day but I can't use the gypsum on here
because I can't achieve this finish so we're gonna be stuck using Portland which is twice as strong
but really takes a lot of practice you've got to mix it extremely rich otherwise it falls all over
now guys what I was talking about is a platform this is a platform you see this another thing
to guys is okay we have the plastic underneath we have the tarp above under my legs I have this why
because if anybody any of you contractors done this you know this we're gonna be standing up
here J me Adolfo we're gonna be plastering my son dad's gonna be pouring mud for us there's gonna
be a lot of weight on this so unless you have cardboard underneath the legs you can beat up
the floor have I done it yes about 20 years ago that being said the foundation isn't extremely
strong, which reminds me of a time Jayson on his 21st birthday we went into a club to have drinks, and there was this really big lady dancing on the table and Jay says, wow, great legs. She looks at him and
says you really think so? he says definitely most tables would have collapsed by now.
that's why you got this little scar right here so you got to watch what you say, but when you're
plastering you gotta watch what you're doing anyway we're gonna go ahead and mix and we'll
show you how we put that on okay guys we got the perimeter I'm working with the amazing Adolphe of
this guy is one of the better plasters I ever worked with almost as good as me but anyway
he's helping me do this and Jay just now got off because we're we got it handled this is a quick
setting mud anybody who doesn't think putting mud above your head defying gravity is not difficult
you haven't done this before this you only go a a little bit out of time what's actually happening
guys it's mushrooming it's going through the top and mushrooms that is how it adheres similar to
old button board back in the fifties the good idea is never to work underneath yourself will
work away me I'm not too concerned about it especially where the joints are to where the
joints, where it overlaps guys again, doesn't matter how well you laughing or how good you are some of
its gonna come down if I was using gypsum right now instead of Portland oh man it'd be so easy
to do this, technically it's easy right now let's set him right there Dan got my son Dan he's
bringing us this good mud a little bit out of time guys what's that all sane thousand miles step at
a time you get there this is the same thing by the way this material again it's it's called Eisenwall
it's was not sold at Home Depot or Lowe's their other product rapidset however is why isn't this
ol dad the big chain stores a lot of there's a lot of do's and don'ts in this material here it's
very difficult to work with ah it's not really homeowner friendly just they make bridges
with it for a reason it's incredibly strong but they've got a lot of do's and don'ts your
homeowners want to do something like this here's the rapidset or actually I'd use a gypsum based
product myself because again we're matching this heavy finish in order to match that heavy finish
we need the right base so this is the right base and then again guys it all takes practice and it
takes more than practice somebody knows how to mix a proper mix it's got to go rich for a wall for a
wall you can go 3 to 1 this is 2 two1, and we are on our third bag, these are hundred-pound sacks
and we mix two times as much sand I was outside doing the wall I'd mix three two one but here I
want it really rich because of gravity anyhow I'll let you guys go right now we're gonna Jay's gonna
come up here and help us knock this out when we do the finish coat that's where we show you the
magic okay guys let me show you what we did we floated it if I would have left this steel trowel
it'd still be kind of moist when you float it like this dries out because it opens up the stucco
boring stuff but now Adolfo is he's skimming it now what I'm doing is I'm taking a float because
what we're matching is exposed aggregate what is the exposed aggregate that means you float it and
you bring the fan to the surface so we're using the exact same sand and he's spreading it and all
I'm doing is loading it that means I'm bringing it to the surface just like here in fact we are
going to skim this to because it's not pretty it's not really as consistent as the homeowner wants it
so that's what we do now close up will show that this is a pretty heavy finish what we're gonna
do guys is I'll show you just this part here adolfo hit the wall to the flat surface where
right here yeah cover that so I could explain something before we call it quits and Jay puts
the camera down he helps us float this out they see what he's doing there is he's going over the
the finish that came off and we do have a few smooth finishes which I told the homeowner hey
we'll fix that and make it pretty for you blend everything in because this is what they want guys
they're water heavy finish so we can do that back it's very little we can't do all right cool beans
daddieo, let me get in here there you go there you go, you are the man all right, so I take my
float and I'm floating this out, and any excess I put right here, we just float it out, guys. We bring
out there and we're good so I'm taking it here floating it out feather it into the ceiling also
and where it's real thick like little thinner baby little thinner little thinner okay so we
pull it off yeah we don't need that much all right don't we take it here and we just floated and this
is old-world charm basically which means the base the coat is not exactly like say if
I were to take a rod and make it perfect so it's a little wavy but that's what they have that's what
they want that's what we are going to recreate so since I dropped that load between the scaffold, I'll
take this one I use for cleaning tools kind of beat-up but we could make it work all we're doing
is floating it out guys we'll bring it out to the sand giving them that sand finish that they they
want and you know technically folks if if I were to do a smooth finish in here we'll say like oh
let's take diamond diamond Imperial or the veneer finishes it's even easier than what we're doing
today but for the sake of matching it will go this route anyway we're going to Jay's going to put the
camera down he's gonna come up here and he's gonna float it out and in 20 minutes we're gonna finish
this up tear everything down we'll show you the final results all right guys put a conclusion on
this if you take a peek at the ceiling now what I recommend for you folks if you ever want to
do a sealing sheetrock it unless you want to go back to original then you have to go the route
we just did it's actually a lot easier to do a smooth finish than this course finish with the
aggregate but we match and we do as we're asked I want to say too if your ceiling is cracking
and it's really bad Jay does a lot of ceilings where he'll come, and he'll put and put a coat
of mud then he'll put the mesh netting it's three foot rolls you'll embed that in the mash and then
he'll put another coat over that that's another option this it makes everything bulletproof I did
my house I bought it in 89 I did it like almost 30 years ago this is how I did all my ceiling but I
actually have a hot tub upstairs so I wanted to strain and when hospitals when schools actually
do it this way too with different types of cement anyway guys that's another way to do it there's
many many alternatives my name is Kirk Jason on the camera we thank you for watching and as you
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