SO WHO WON LAST NIGHT'S DEBATE?
THE FIRST DEBATE BETWEEN HILLARY CLINTON AND DONALD TRUMP?
EVERYBODY IS ON PINS AND NEEDLES, HOW IS IT GOING TO GO?
THE ELECTION RIGHT NOW IS SO CLOSE, PRETTY MUCH TIED AND
ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN IN THE DEBATE THAT INVOLVES DONALD
TRUMP.
AS WE COVERED IT LIVE ON TYTNETWORK.COM/LIVE YOU SAW
THAT HILLARY CLINTON HAD COME OUT
A LITTLE NERVOUS.
BUT THEN HILLARY CLINTON TURNED IT ON, SETTLED INTO HER
GROOVE, AND STARTED BEING VERY EFFECTIVE IN HER COUNTER
ATTACKS AGAINST DONALD TRUMP, SHE SEEMED LIKE A GROWN-UP
AND MADE POLICY POSITIONS AND POINTS WHILE DONALD TRUMP
KEPT SPINNING HIS WHEELS DOING PERSONAL ATTACKS.
HIS DEFENSE WAS SUCH ABSURD THINGS AS MY DAD ONLY GAVE
ME A SMALL $1 MILLION LOAN.
THAT DID NOT WRITE WELL.
I AM NOT THE ONE SAYING IT, FRANK LUNTZ SAYS IT.
THAT WAS OUR OPINION.
THE QUESTION IS WHAT DID THE ACTUAL VOTERS THINK?
SO WE ARE HERE WITH THAT INFORMATION.
CNN ORC DID A POLL.
CNN'S POLL, DEVASTATING FOR TRUMP.
IT IS HILLARY CLINTON IN A LANDSLIDE WINNING THE FIRST POLL
62 TO 27.
SHE CRUSHED HIM.
NOW THEY ASKED DID THIS MAKE A DIFFERENCE?
IT IS ONE THING IF SHE WINS BUT EVERYBODY WAS ALREADY SET
IN THEIR PATTERNS AND WHO THEY WERE GOING TO VOTE ON
THOUGHT IT TURNS OUT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD SAID OF COURSE,
BUT SOME PEOPLE HAD NOT MADE UP THEIR MINDS.
THIS DEBATE BROKE ALL SORTS OF RATINGS RECORDS.
THE REALITY IS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WATCHED IT.
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENCE OF 34 TO 18
OF PEOPLE SAYING IT IS GOING TO AFFECT MY VOTE, THAT CAN
MAKE A GIANT DIFFERENCE IN THE SELECTION.
THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN HAS TO BE ECSTATIC ABOUT THAT.
PUBLIC POLICY POLLING HAD A POLL AS WELL.
I KEEP TELLING YOU GUYS THESE WERE THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND
ACCURATE POLLING IN THE 2012 ELECTION.
THEY HAD IT CLOSER,
51 TO 40 IN FAVOR OF HILLARY CLINTON WINNING.
GIVEN THE CNN NUMBERS, THAT IS CLOSER THAN HOW CNN HAD IT.
THOSE WERE THE SCIENTIFIC POLLS, NOW IS GO TO THE
NONSCIENTIFIC POLLS.
WE DID ONE OF THOSE, BUT WE WERE POLLING PROGRESSIVES.
THIS WAS RIGHT AFTER THE
PRIMARIES.
DRUDGE, MASSIVELY RIGHT WING ORGANIZATION DOES A POLL
AND SAYS THAT IT TURNS OUT THE RIGHT-WINGERS COME TO MY SITE,
80% OF THEM SAY DONALD TRUMP WON THE DEBATE.
OF COURSE I'M SURPRISED IT WASN'T 98%
WHO SAID THAT DONALD TRUMP WON.
FOX NEWS ALSO DID AN UNSCIENTIFIC PULL ON THEIR
WEBSITE.
THESE ARE THE LEAST SURPRISING RESULTS YOU HAVE EVER SEEN.
OTHERS WHO ARE NOT BIASED ñ YOU HAVE MAINSTREAM ORGANIZATIONS,
THEY GENERALLY DID A POLL BUT IT WAS ALSO ONLINE.
THE TRUMP PEOPLE WET AND THAT IT WAS SUPER CLEVER TO VOTE IN
ALL OF THESE POLLS.
THESE ARE ALL UNSCIENTIFIC, ALL POLLS ONLINE.
BY THE WAY, ON TIME AND CNBC'S POLL THERE WAS OVER 1
MILLION PEOPLE WHO VOTED, THEY CLAIM.
THEN THEY POINT OUT IN FORTUNE MAGAZINE THIS.
TO WHICH I SAY, OF COURSE.
THIS REMINDS ME OF ñ AT ONE POINT TIME MAGAZINE WAS
TRYING TO FIGURE WHO WOULD BE MAN OF THE CENTURY I THINK THAT
THE FOUNDING FATHER OF TURKEY WAS ONE OF THE CANDIDATES.
EVERY TURK IN THE WORLD WENT AND VOTED IN THE POLL.
THEY THINK THEY ARE BEING CUTE BUT I DON'T REALLY THINK SO.
NATE SILVER SAYS YOU WON'T TO KNOW WHO WON THE DEBATE
UNTIL A COUPLE OF DAYS FROM NOW.
THOSE POLLS WILL BE MORE ACCURATE THAN THE SNAP
POLLS CNN DID AND PUBLIC POLICY POLLING DID.
THAT IS A FAIR POINT.
BUT ALL THE ONLINE POLLS, THROW THEM OUT.
DO YOU THINK RUSSIANS CAN PRODUCE 1
MILLION VOTES FOR THEIR FAVORITE CANDIDATE ON AN ONLINE POLL?
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE RUSSIANS, I DON'T CARE.
THOSE POLLS ARE TOTAL HORSE CRAP.
NOW I HAVE MORE EVIDENCE.
NOW WE GO TO THE FOCUS GROUPS, UNDECIDED VOTERS THAT ARE
IN THE STUDIO.
DO YOU KNOW
WHICH WAY THEY WENT ON CNN?
18 TO 2 FOR HILLARY CLINTON.
FRANKLIN'S WAS RUNNING THE FOX NEWS ONE, AND HE KEPT
TWEETING THAT
TRUMP IS NOT DOING WELL.
AT ONE POINT IN THE DEBATE LUNTZ TWEETED OUT THIS.
THAT IS A REPUBLICAN POLL.
THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THE DEBATE ENDED.
AT THE END, THE VOTE HAD CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.
LET ME GIVE YOU THAT.
EVERY LEGITIMATE THING THAT IS OUT THERE ñ
IT GIVES YOU A BETTER INSIGHT THAN AN ONLINE POLL.
THEN THERE IS ONE OTHER THING, MSNBC MIGHT BE WONDERING
WHICH WAY THEY WENT.
THERE IS ALSO THE BETTORS, THE BETTING MARKETS THAT ARE
BIDDING ON THIS RACE.
AS A CONSERVATIVE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO TRUST THE MARKETS.
REMEMBER, THE MARKETS ARE NOT JUDGING JUST ON THIS DEBATE
THEY HAVE A CERTAIN EXPECTATION SO THE MARKET IS ALREADY
BALANCED OUT IN A CERTAIN PLACE.
IF THEY THINK THE DEBATE WHAT MUCH BETTER THAN ONE PERSON
IT IS GOING TO MOVE UP.
IF THEY THINK THE DEBATE WENT JUST AS EXPECTED, IT'S NOT
GOING TO MOVE IT ALL.
SO HOW DID IT GO?
THAT IS A SIX POINT MOVE IN THE MARKETS WHICH IS
SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE THOSE MARKETS DON'T MOVE THAT QUICKLY.
PEOPLE'S MONEY IS ON THE LINE, THIS IS NOT OH, I KIND OF
THINK THIS.
YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE MONEY ON WHO IS GOING TO WIN, THAT
IS SERIOUS BUSINESS.
SO FINALLY LET'S GO BACK TO THE MSNBC FOCUS GROUP.
THIS ONE WAS A SMALL GROUP, ONLY SEVEN PEOPLE.
WHICH WAY DID THEY GO?
LOOK AT THAT, DONALD TRUMP WINNING ON MSNBC.
MY FAVORITE IS THE TIEBREAKER, THE FOCUS GROUP PARTICIPANT
THAT VOTED FOR TRUMP THAT PUT THEM OVER THE TOP.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING CAN SUM UP THE DEBATE BETTER THAN
THAT QUOTE.
BUT NOW YOU HAVE ALL THE RESULTS.
IT APPEARS BASED ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT ANGLES THAT YOU
LOOK, THAT HILLARY CLINTON DID IN FACT WIN THIS DEBATE.