NEWT GINGRICH HAS BEEN
ON THE TRAIL FOR DONALD TRUMP, AND HE APPARENTLY TAKES THIS
WHOLE VOTER FRAUD THING VERY SERIOUSLY.
LET'S LISTEN -- WE
HAVE A COUPLE OF DOOZIES FOR YOU, FIRST NEW, AND THEN RUDY
GIULIANI.
>>THIS IS NOT ABOUT ELECTION OFFICIALS AT THE PRECINCT LEVEL,
THIS IS ABOUT LAST FRIDAY WHEN THE NETWORKS SPENT 23 MINUTES ON
THE TRUMP TAPE AND LESS THAN ONE MINUTE, ALL THREE NETWORKS
COMBINED, LESS THAN ONE MINUTE ON HILLARY CLINTON'S SECRET
SPEECHES THAT WERE BEING REVEALED IN THE WIKILEAKS.
>>YOU SAY IT'S NOT AT THE PRECINCT LEVEL, BUT TRUMP
HAS ALSO TOLD PEOPLE TO MONITOR POLLING STATIONS.
>>THEY SHOULD.
LOOK AT PHILADELPHIA, SAY LEWIS,
CHICAGO, I REMEMBER WHEN RICHARD NIXON HAD THE ELECTION STOLEN IN
1960.
SO TO SUGGEST THAT WE DON'T HAVE THEFT IN PHILADELPHIA
IS TO DENY REALITY.
>>I'M SAYING TO YOU THAT THERE ARE CLEARLY CASES WHERE YOU HAVE
INTIMIDATION AND THEFT, SO TO SUGGEST THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE
CONCERNED WITH HONEST ELECTIONS ARE SOMEHOW NUTTY I THINK
IS A MISTAKE.
>>DO YOU SEE THE IRONY WITH NEWT GINGRICH?
HE'S TALKING ABOUT
THERE IS CLEARLY INTIMIDATION, IT WILL BE RIGGED AGAINST THE
REPUBLICANS BECAUSE THERE IS CLEARLY INTIMIDATION, HE OF THE
PARTY THAT HAS SPENT DECADES INTIMIDATING VOTERS.
>>FURTHERMORE I DON'T THINK GINGRICH OR TRUMP
UNDERSTANDS THAT STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS RUN ELECTIONS,
AND MOST STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS ARE REPUBLICANS, SO IF
ANYONE IS TRYING TO RIGGED THE ELECTION IT WILL BE REPUBLICANS.
>>YOU WILL THINK GINGRICH WILL GET THAT A LITTLE BIT, TRUMP
CERTAINLY DOESN'T GET IT.
BUT THAT IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
ELECTION, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH REPUBLICANS ARE CRYING FOUL OVER
VOTER FRAUD IN THE MOST BIZARRE REVERSAL OF HISTORY I CAN
IMAGINE.
>>AND I THINK WHAT HAS BEEN DONE WELL IS THE COUPLING OF THE TERM
VOTER FRAUD WITH THE TERM LACK OF PROOF.
THERE ARE VERY FEW
CASES -- 50 IS WHAT PEOPLE THROW AROUND, YOU SAY SIX --
>>SIX VOTES IN PHILADELPHIA, THAT IS ONE CASE, SIX VOTES IN
PHILADELPHIA.
AND GINGRICH IS SAYING CLEARLY THIS IS
HAPPENING, AND THEN HE GOES TO THE REPUBLICAN STRONGHOLDS OF
PHILADELPHIA, CHICAGO, ST.
LOUIS -- IF THE DEMOCRATS WIN THOSE
CITIES, SOMETHING HAS GOT TO BE REALLY SCREWED UP.
>>BECAUSE OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO WIN THOSE CITIES.
HERE
IS ANOTHER CONSPIRACY THAT ONE MIGHT THINK IS HAPPENING -- I
THINK THERE HAS BEEN A CONSPIRACY TO GET TRUMP THIS
CLOSE TO WINNING THE ELECTION, AND I THINK IF IT IS A MEDIA
CONSPIRACY IT'S THE REALITY TELEVISIONIZATION OF MEDIA.
IT
IS EVERYTHING THAT STARTED BACK WITH CORPORATE OVERLORDS BUYING
MEDIA OUTLETS THAT ARE NOW MOTIVATED BY RATINGS, MAKING
HEADLINES MORE SALACIOUS, BASICALLY SHAKING THE VIEWER
UNTIL THEY ARE NUMBED EVERYTHING, WHERE THINGS HAVE TO
GET MORE AND MORE RIDICULOUS.
>>DO YOU THINK THEY JUST GO INTO A BACK ROOM, ALL THE HEADS
OF THESE -- BECAUSE I DON'T.
FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T BECAUSE OF
COURSE THEY DON'T.
BUT THE NOTION THAT THERE WAS THIS
"LET'S GET TRUMP THIS CLOSE" -- ROMNEY DID FINE FOR THE
NETWORKS.
THE NOTION OF DONALD TRUMP BEING THIS OVER-THE-TOP
CELEBRITY, A LOT MORE PEOPLE WILL WATCH -- THEY WERE STARVING
FOR COVERAGE IN ELECTIONS PAST.
HAD JEB BUSH IN THE CANDIDATE WE
WOULD STILL BE GLUED TO THIS THING RIGHT NOW, IN A
DIFFERENT WAY.
>>NOT THAT I TYPICALLY WATCH FOX NEWS BUT I'VE SEEN CLIPS WHERE
THERE WERE MULTIPLE PEOPLE ON FOX NEWS SAYING THE MAINSTREAM
MEDIA IS PUSHING THIS -- I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT CHANNEL
YOU'RE ON, RIGHT?
>>AND THAT'S GREAT, I LOVE THAT.
PEOPLE GOING ON CNN AND SAYING IT IS NOT COVERED ENOUGH.
THEN JUST START TALKING ABOUT THE THING YOU WANT TO BE
TALKED ABOUT.
>>THERE WAS A GREAT TWEET TODAY FROM SOMEONE AT POLITICO, SHE
TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY SAY HE CALLED IT THE CLINTON NEWS
NETWORK, AND CNN SUCKS IS WHAT THEY SAY AT THE TRUMP RALLIES --
WELL, TONIGHT MELANIA TRUMP IS ON CNN.
SO THE PEOPLE AT THE
RALLIES DON'T SEE THAT, THEY ARE NOT GOING HOME AND WATCHING, BUT
THE DOUBLETALK AND HYPOCRISY OVER USING THE MEDIA THE WAY
THEY HAVE -- DONALD TRUMP WILL GO TO ANY AVAILABLE MICROPHONE
AND SPEAK INTO IT, HE EVEN COMES TO MIND WHEN I GO TO THESE
THINGS.
THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES ON THIS.
>>I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK THAT WHERE IT'S AT NOW --
>>WHERE IT IS.
YOU WENT TO STANFORD.
>>YEAH, I'M GONE.
I'M DONE.
>>I THINK YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SPEAK, YOU GAVE UP YOUR TURN.
>>THINKING ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE MEDIA
AND LYRICAL FIGURES, YOU HAVE TO THINK OF IT IN A PRACTICAL
SENSE.
TO UNDERSTAND IT.
NOT TO SAY IT'S OKAY, BUT JUST A PEOPLE
KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING.
IN ORDER TO REPORT ON POLITICAL FIGURES,
YOU NEED TO TALK TO THEM, AND THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU
THINGS.
AND I THINK WHAT SADLY HAPPENS TO A LOT OF REPORTERS,
AS WE ARE SEEING IN CERTAINLY EMAILS COMING OUT, ARE A LOT OF
REPORTERS ARE DEAD TIRED BECAUSE THEY ARE ON DEADLINES,
DEADLINES, EVERY FEW HOURS, YOU HAVE TO BE PUTTING SOMETHING
OUT, AND WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING THAT WE HAVE TO CALL THESE
PEOPLE OUT FOR IS THEY JUST SAY, GIVE ME THAT LINE, THAT QUOTE.
WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?
I KNOW THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO REPORT THE
NEXT SIX HOURS OF NEWS ON CNN, WE JUST NEED ONE QUOTE AT 5:30
IN THE MORNING, AND WE WILL PLAY THAT MORNING JOE REPORT THE REST
OF THE DAY AND WE WILL BE FINE.
FOR EVERY ALLEGATION I WILL JUST
CALL UP THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND SAY WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE, AND
THEY WILL DELETE THE PREVIOUS NAME OF THE RAPE ACCUSER AND PUT
IN A NEW ONE AND IT WILL SAY THIS IS RIDICULOUS AND
UNFOUNDED, HAS NEVER BEEN FOUND IN A COURT OF LAW, ETC.
>>AND SINCE WE BROUGHT UP YOUR EDUCATION --
>>OR LACK THEREOF.
USELESSNESS OF.
>>TRUMPET KEEPS SAYING THE MEDIA IS STACKED AGAINST HIM --
MOST PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA ARE WELL-EDUCATED, AND TRUMP'S
SUPPORTERS HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF EDUCATION.
PERHAPS THERE IS A
REASON THEY MIGHT HAVE A SKEWED --
>>SKEWED, AND A BIAS, THAT IS BELIEVABLE.
AS WE TALKED ABOUT
AT THE TOP, DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN ABLE TO CREATE TALKING
POINTS WITHIN HIS OWN GROUP OF VOTERS AND SUPPORTERS THAT THEY
ARE ABLE TO PARROT AND KEEP GOING WITH, HE'S DONE A GREAT
JOB WITH THAT, FROM MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN TO LOCK HER UP,
THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN PARROTED TO HIS POLITICAL SUCCESS.
NOW
THAT IT IS ENDING HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ANYMORE, THEY'VE
HAD THE SEX TAPE, NOW THE CANDIDATE IS SAYING HE WAS
GOADED INTO IT, LET DOWN THAT PATH BY BILLY BUSH, IT WASN'T
DONALD TRUMP AT ALL.
>>HE CAN'T TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANYTHING.
>>LET'S GIVE HIM THE BIGGEST RESPONSIBILITY IN THE WORLD
THEN.
>>EXACTLY.
HE CAN'T TAKE BLAME FOR ANYTHING, AND WE WILL GIVE
HIM THE JOB WHERE THE BUCK STOPS HERE.
>>WHERE YOU HAVE TO TAKE BLAME FOR EVERYTHING.
PEOPLE SAY LET'S
RUN AMERICA LIKE A BUSINESS.
I'VE WORKED IN A LOT OF
BUSINESSES, THIS ONE IS AWESOME, BUT SOME OF THE OTHERS I'VE
WORKED FOR AND HAVE FRIENDS THAT HAVE WORKED FOR, TALKED TO THEM
ABOUT THEIR STORIES --
>>THIS ONE, THE YOUNG TURKS, IS AWESOME?
>>I REALLY LIKE IT.
SOME PEOPLE ARE TICKY-TACK WITH GRAMMAR.
NOW I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
>>BUSINESS?
>>AT BUSINESS SOMETIMES PEOPLE FAIL AND BLAME EVERYONE ELSE,
BUT WHAT YOU WANT WITH A CEO IS THAT BIGGER COURT DIVISION WHERE
YOU WANT PEOPLE TO GUIDE IT IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION, AND I DON'T
SEE ANY PROOF FROM ANY MOMENT THROUGHOUT THIS CAMPAIGN WERE
TRUMP HAS SAID, WITH ANY REAL GENUINE BELIEF, THINK OF
ANYTHING HE HAS SAID SO FAR, I DON'T THINK HE HAS ANY BELIEF
THAT HE WANTS TO DO IT, SO MY TO BELIEVE THAT WHEN HE GETS
ELECTED HE WILL DO ANYTHING?
>>THE BUSINESS THING, IT IS KIND OF LIKE THE WELLS FARGO THING.
THE CEO DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE ANY BLAME, HE SAID IT IS
HAPPENING AT LOW LEVELS, THAT IS PROBABLY WHAT TRUMP WOULD DO.
>>HE WOULD CERTAINLY PASS THE BLAME ALONG.
AND DO YOU THINK
DONALD TRUMP REALLY WANTS TO WIN?
>>HE WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT, HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO PRESIDENT.
>>I THINK IT IS MOSTLY PRIDE, AT THIS POINT IT'S LIKE I HAVE
TO WIN BECAUSE I'M DONALD TRUMP AND I'M A WINNER.
>>THE LAST TIME I REMEMBER A CANDIDATE -- GEORGE HW BUSH IN
1992 WAS RUNNING AGAINST BILL CLINTON AND THERE WAS A CERTAIN
POINT TOWARD THE END OF THAT CAMPAIGN WHERE IT SEEMED LIKE,
THIS GUY JUST REALLY DOESN'T CARE.
HE'S TIRED OF CAMPAIGNING
AND SELLING HIMSELF, HE REALLY SEEMED -- PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT
IT, THEY REPORTED IT-- HE SEEMED FATIGUED.
BUT PEOPLE USUALLY
WANT TO WIN, YOU DON'T WANT TO MOVE OUT OF YOUR HOUSE.
>>THERE WAS THAT TIME WHEN TED KENNEDY WAS RUNNING, THEY ASKED
HIM WHY HE WANTED TO BE PRESIDENT AND HE DIDN'T HAVE AN
ANSWER.
AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT JEB ALSO HAD.
>>HE'S LIKE, I'M A BUSH.
>>IT'S WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO.
BUT THERE WAS A CHANGE IN
POLLING FOR TED KENNEDY BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO WHY
HE WANTED TO BE PRESIDENT.
>>WITH JEB THERE WAS ALSO THE ENTITLEMENT TO THE NOMINATION.
THAT SHOCK THAT, WAIT A SECOND, THIS ISN'T WORKING OUT.
I WAS
TOLD I WAS GOING TO BE THE NOMINEE, AND THE PRESIDENT, I'M
A BUSH.
BUT WITH TRUMP I THINK HE WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT SO BAD,
HE WANTS THE GLAMOUR OF THE HOUSE, THE STATE DINNERS, HE
WANTS ALL OF THE FRINGE AND OF THE WORK.
JIMMY CARTER WANTED ALL OF THE WORK AND NONE OF THE
FRINGE, PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT WAS REFRESHING, BUT IT TURNED
OUT HE WASN'T VERY GOOD NECESSARILY IN SOME
PEOPLE'S EYES AT DOING THE WORK.
>>I WANT TO BE PRESIDENT.
BY THAT LOGIC IT SOUNDS GREAT.
I GET A PLANE AND THEN A HELICOPTER.
>>HE HAS A PLANE AND A HELICOPTER.
>>BUT YOU GET AIR FORCE ONE.
>>BUT TRUMP SAYS HIS PLANE IS THE BEST PLANE THERE EVER WAS.
>>THESE PLANES ARE GARBAGE, WE WILL REPLACE IT AND PUT TRUMP ON
THE SIDE.
>>THE THING WITH JEB THAT I THOUGHT, JEB THOUGHT HE WAS
ENTITLED TO THE NOMINATION BUT THEN HE STARTED BEING IN THOSE
DEBATES WITH THIS OVERBEARING GUY THAT TALKED DOWN TO HIM AND
CALLED HIM IT WUSS, AND I WAS JUST LIKE, THAT'S WHAT HE GREW
UP WITH.
HE IS SEEING TRUMP BUT HE'S HEARING GEORGE.
JUST, WHY
ARE YOU HITTING YOURSELF?
>>I GUESS SO.
I SAW SPEECH JEB GAVE OUT HERE ON FOREIGN POLICY
BEFORE ANY DEBATES OR ANYTHING.
IT MAY EVEN HAVE BEEN BEFORE HE
ANNOUNCED HIS CANDIDACY, BUT I'M NOT SURE.
AND IT WAS A GOOD,
SOLID, DULL AS HELL SPEECH THAT I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THINGS,
MOST OF -- OF COURSE I WOULD DISAGREE WITH SOME.
BUT IS WAS A
GOOD, SOLID LYRICAL SPEECH.
AND IT PLAYED TO A FLAT CROWD AT THE
REAGAN LIBRARY.
AND AFTERWARDS I SPOKE TO SOME PEOPLE, HE'S GOING
TO BE A GREAT PRESIDENT, I LIKE HIS FOREIGN POLICY -- I THINK
JEB BUSH WAS ASTOUNDED OVER THE FACT THAT AFTER THE CLEVELAND
DEBATE WHEN TRUMP OPENED UP WITH MEGYN KELLY AND ROCIO DONNELL
THAT THAT DIDN'T GO AWAY THE NEXT DAY, WHAT A JOKE TRUMP WAS,
WE HAVE TO GET RID OF HIM.
AND THAT HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
I THINK HE WANTED IT BADLY BUT DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO WANT IT
ANYMORE BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON.
>>EVERY UNDERSTANDING IN FRONT DURING THAT LAST DEBATE AND
GOING, THIS IS AMAZING.
ALL RIGHT, I WONDER WHAT THE SECOND DEBATE WILL BE LIKE.
>>WE
ALL STARTED OFF LAUGHING AND SLOWLY IT WASN'T FUNNY ANYMORE.
>>I WAS AT THE DEBATE IN A PRESSROOM SITTING THERE WITH
OTHER PEOPLE IN THE PRESS AND EVERYBODY WAS WRITING AND BEING
STOIC, AND THAT HE SAYS THESE THINGS AND PEOPLE ARE LAUGHING,
LOOKING AT EACH OTHER, THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO MAKE OF IT
BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME,
ONE OF THEM I SPOKE TO FROM THE WASHINGTON POST AFTERWARDS SAID
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO WRITE.
TO WRITE ABOUT TRUMP OR JUST IGNORE
HIM?
AND THEN OF COURSE -- [BUFFERING]
>>THIS WHOLE IDEA OF VOTER FRAUD AND SENDING MONITORS INCOME I
WANT TO WRAP IT UP BECAUSE I WANT US TO HEAR THE REMAINS OF
RUDY GIULIANI.
HE SPOKE ON THIS, THIS IS AMERICA'S MAYOR, WE WILL
TALK ABOUT IT AFTER.
>>THERE ARE A FEW PLACES, NOT MANY IN THE SWING STATES, BUT A
FEW PLACES WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN NOTORIOUS FOR STEALING VOTES.
PENNSYLVANIA, CHICAGO, PLACES WHERE A LOT OF CHEATING HAS GONE
ON OVER THE YEARS.
I KNOW THAT FOR MY OWN KNOWLEDGE OF BUSING
PEOPLE IN FROM CAMDEN.
DEAD PEOPLE GENERALLY VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS RATHER THAN
REPUBLICANS.
>>HE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT ELECTIONS BEING STOLEN, EXCEPT
IN SOME CASES WHEN HE IS TALKING ABOUT ELECTIONS BEING STOLEN.
>>IF YOU WANT ME TO TELL YOU THAT I THINK THE ELECTION IN
PHILADELPHIA AND CHICAGO IS GOING TO BE FAIR, I'D HAVE TO BE
A MORON TO SAY THAT.
I CAN'T SIT HERE AND TELL YOU THAT THEY
DON'T CHEAT, AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE THEY CONTROL THE
POLLING PLACES IN THESE AREAS, THERE ARE NO REPUBLICANS.
IT IS VERY HARD TO GET PEOPLE THERE WHO WILL CHALLENGE VOTES.
>>IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH YOU ARE SAYING THAT TRUMP IS SERIOUS
WHEN HE SAYS THAT THE ELECTION IS GOING TO BE STOLEN.
>>I'M NOT SAYING THAT.
>>YOU LAID OUT A WHOLE CASE OF HOW DEMOCRATS STEAL ELECTIONS.
>>REPUBLICANS DON'T CONTROL INNER CITIES THE WAY DEMOCRATS
DO, MAYBE IF THEY DID, THEY WOULD DO AS MUCH CHEATING AS
DEMOCRATS.
>>HE WAS THE MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY.
>>IT IS GREAT TO HEAR GINGRICH JUST SAYING IT WOULD BE TO DENY
REALITY, AND IT'S LIKE, NOW WE ARE JUST GOING TO DENY REALITY.
>>GIULIANI BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT THOUGH -- TRUMP'S OUTRAGE
FOR DEAD VOTERS HAS BEEN AWFUL.
HE HASN'T BEEN TALKING TO THEM AT ALL, THAT IS WHY THEY
ARE VOTING DEMOCRAT.
>>AND RUDY GIULIANI, WHO LOOKED THERE MAY BE LIKE A DEAD VOTER,
I THINK IS OFFENDED BY THEM.
FIRST OF ALL, DEMOCRATS DO WELL
AMONG DEAD PEOPLE -- THE LINE IS REFERRING TO THE FACT THAT IN
MACHINE POLITICS THEY USE TO GET PEOPLE WHO WERE DECEASED AND
FIND PEOPLE TO VOTE AS THOSE PEOPLE, THAT HAPPENED IN NEW
YORK AND CHICAGO, IN THE TURN-OF-THE-CENTURY AND IN THE
20S AND MOB CONTROLLED CHICAGO IN THE 50S AND 70S, BUT IT
DIDN'T HAPPEN A LOT.
WHEN IT HAPPENED IT WAS A GOOD STORY,
AND THE NEWSPAPER PEOPLE LOVE COVERING IT, ETC.
THAT IS NOT
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE.
DEAD CANDIDATES IS DIFFERENT, FIVE
DEMOCRATS WHO HAD ALREADY DIED HAVE WON, THE LAST WAS MEL
CARNAHAN IN MISSOURI WHOSE WIFE TOOK OVER THE SEAT.
HE BEAT JOHN
ASHCROFT, THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD.
BUT THIS WHOLE IDEA OF
INTIMIDATION, THIS IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF INTIMIDATION.
A DIFFERENT KIND OF KEEPING PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE POLLS.
IT
IS SAYING IT BLUNTLY BUT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS, THAT IT IS
CORRUPT, RIGGED, SO PEOPLE MIGHT BE AFRAID TO GO TO THE POLLS.
DEMOCRATIC VOTERS MAY NOT WANT TO GO.
AND LISTEN TO WHAT THIS
OHIO VOTER SAID TO THE BOSTON GLOBE, A GENTLEMAN CALLED STEVE
WEBB.
HE IS SAYING, ABOUT WATCHING THE PRECINCTS --
>>THAT'S WHAT THIS IS INFORMED BY, IS IT NOT?
DON'T YOU THINK
THAT'S WHAT THIS CONVERSATION IS ABOUT?
>>YOU ARE INTERVIEWING THE GUY, HE REALLY SAID THAT?
>>WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE WHEN WE GET TO HILLARY CLINTON.
>>I BELIEVE TRUMP AND ONE OF HIS SURROGATES SAID PEOPLE SHOULD
GO INTO DISTRICT WHERE THEY ARE NOT A VOTER AND WATCH THEM,
WHICH FEELS LIKE SAYING HEY, WHITE SUPPORTERS, GO INTO BLACK
NEIGHBORHOODS AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT DOING VOTER FRAUD.
>>BUT
THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO FIND SOMEONE WHO SAYS OPENLY THAT
IS RACIAL PROFILING, AND WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO FIND THAT?
>>BUT THEN DO YOU FIND PEOPLE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WHO ARE
AFRAID TO GO OUT AND VOTE?
THAT IS VOTER SUPPRESSION AND
INTIMIDATION BY SAYING IT IS RIGGED.
>>IT'S A STEP FORWARD FROM SAYING IT IS RIGGED, THIS IS
SAYING GO OUT THERE.
AND THAT GUY SAID HE IS GOING TO DO
EVERYTHING LEGALLY -- NO, THAT IS ILLEGAL.
THAT IS VOTER
INTIMIDATION.
AND WHAT DO YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE
WHEN YOU GET TO THE POLLS?
IN WHAT WAY DO YOU THINK YOU'RE
GOING TO WATCH YOUR POLLING PLACE?
WHAT SKILLS DO YOU HAVE
ONCE YOU ARE THERE?
YOU THINK WHEN PEOPLE ARE STEALING THE
ELECTION THEY WILL LOOK LIKE ROBBERS LEAVING THE BANK WITH A
$ ON IT THAT JUST SAYS "ELECTION?"
NO, YOU ARE GOING TO
BE THERE AND GET ANGRY AND LOOK LIKE THOSE GUYS LAST WEEK ON
THIS SHOW WITH THE GUYS WHO ARE STANDING WITH THEIR GUNS
LEANING ON THEIR TRUCKS, IT WILL BE ALL DAY.
>>I LIKE THE IMAGE OF SOMEONE COMING BACK WITH THE GLASSES AND
FAKE NOSE AND MUSTACHE COMING TO VOTE AGAIN.
>>THAT'S WHAT THEY THINK.
WE LAUGH AT IT, BUT THAT IS WHAT
THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE THINK IS HAPPENING EVERYWHERE,
AND IT SIMPLY IS NOT HAPPENING.
AND CERTAINLY WHEN IT DOES
HAPPEN IT'S NOT HAPPENING IN ELECTION CHANGING DEGREES.
THERE
IS NO PROOF OF IT, I'M NOT SAYING I KNOW, BUT THE PEOPLE
WHO HAVE TRIED TO PROVE IT HAVE ALWAYS FAILED.
>>I'M CONCERNED WITH WHAT IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING ONCE THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE TOLD TO GO MONITOR POLLING PLACES AND THEN
THEY GET THERE AND FIVE HOURS IN, THEY REALIZE, THIS IS
RIDICULOUS.
ARE THEY GOING TO LEAVE?
HOPEFULLY THEY WON'T EVEN
SHOW UP, BUT IF THEY DO, HOPEFULLY THEY WON'T GET
FRUSTRATED AND START FIGHTS.
BUT WHO IS AT THE POLLING PLACE TO
SAY, GUYS, YOU HAVE TO LEAVE?
DO WE HAVE THOSE PEOPLE AT THE
READY?
WHAT WOULD THOSE PEOPLE EVEN BE THAT YOU WOULD DISPATCH?
IT SEEMS LIKE FROM OUR EARLIER DISCUSSION IT WOULD BE SOMEONE
SAYING YOU ARE BRINGING A BUNCH OF PEOPLE, I WILL BRING A
BUNCH OF PEOPLE.
>>AT THE SAME PEOPLE THAT THE TEA PARTY AND REPUBLICANS CALLED
ON, MINUTEMEN, TO GO TO THE BORDER AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE
WEREN'T CROSSING ILLEGALLY.
WE HAVE THE BORDER PATROL, BUT WE
ARE GOING TO SEND THE CITIZEN'S MILITIA TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE
DOING THEIR JOB.
IT IS INTIMIDATION, THAT WAS VIOLENT
INTIMIDATION.
THIS IS THREATENING INTIMIDATION, WHICH
I GUESS IS INTIMIDATION BY ITS NATURE.
YOU UNDERSTAND WHY THESE
PEOPLE WHO FOUGHT SO HARD FOR VOTING RIGHTS IN THE 60S, PEOPLE
LIKE JOHN LEWIS, AND YOU CAN NAME THEM ALL, ARE LOOKING AT
THIS AND SAYING WAIT A SECOND, THIS IS AGAIN INTIMIDATION AT
THE BALLOT BOX, PEOPLE CAN'T STAND FOR THIS.
AND THAT IS WHAT
YOU ARE GETTING WITH TRUMP RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE GETTING THAT WITH
HIS TWO MOST MORONIC SURROGATES -- IT IS HARD TO SAY MOST
MORONIC WHEN YOU LOOK AT HIS SURROGATES -- BUT RUDY GIULIANI
WON IN NEW YORK CITY, HE BECAME MAYOR, BUT BEFORE THAT HE LOST
TO DAVID DINKINS BY 3%.
HE HAS BEEN ON THIS SINCE LOSING TO
DAVID DINKINS IN 1993.
>>AND WHAT HAS HE FOUND WELL-BEING ON THIS?
WHAT IS THE
PROOF?
>>NOTHING, HE BECAME MAYOR FOR EIGHT YEARS.
>>BUT MAYBE BEING ON THIS JUST PROVES HOW GOOD THE VOTER FRAUD
IS.
HOW HIDDEN.
>>HIGH-GRADE VOTER FRAUD.
>>WITHIN THE GENERAL ELECTION, I COULD SEE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER
SIDE BEING LIKE, FLORIDA, VOTES DISAPPEARED.
TO THIS DAY.
>>I WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE, I STILL MIGHT BE.
>>YOU ARE ALLOWED TO BE.
THERE ARE INSTANCES OF IT HAPPENING,
BUT TO SAY THERE IS THIS MASSIVE, ORGANIZED VOTER FRAUD
-- THERE IS A POSTMAN, SOMEONE WORKS AT THE POST OFFICE, SAID
HE'S GLAD HE WORKS AT THE POST OFFICE BECAUSE HE IS TEARING UP
TRUMP ABSENTEE BALLOTS.
HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY ARE TRUMP ABSENTEE
BALLOTS?
EVEN IF THERE IS ONE ROGUE PERSON DOING THAT, A FEW
VOTES ARE GOING TO GO AWAY, IT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR.
THE PROBLEM IN FLORIDA WAS THE BALLOT.
>>I BELIEVE YOU CAN ALTER AND RIG IN ELECTION IN A LOCALIZED
WAY, FLORIDA WAS SUCH A HISTORICALLY CLOSE ELECTION, BUT
I DON'T SEE THIS ELECTION BEING THAT CLOSE.
I DON'T SEE IT BEING
DOWN TO 50
VOTES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WERE THAT WOULD MATTER.
>>I'M PROBABLY WRONG BUT IF THIS WERE AS ELABORATE SCHEME AS
GIULIANI WERE IMPLYING IT IS, THEN I DON'T THINK STANDING AT
THE POLLS WHILE PEOPLE VOTE IS GOING TO UNCOVER THAT.
I THINK
YOU NEED TO FIND THE SMOKING GUN IN A BUNCH OF EMAILS AND SNIFF
AT THEM UNTIL YOU FIND THE LARGER VOTE-DISAPPEARING
APPARATUS.
I JUST DON'T SEE ANY BENEFIT OF DOING THIS BECAUSE FOLKS
HAVE BEEN VIGILANT AT THE POLLS AND HAVEN'T TURNED ANYTHING UP.
>>WHEN THEY ARE LOSING IN THE COURTS ON THESE VOTING RIGHTS
ISSUES AND THEY THINK THAT BLAMING THE RIGGED SYSTEM WILL
GET PEOPLE TO DOUBT THE VERACITY OF THIS ELECTION, AND ALSO AT
THE SAME TIME KEEP SOME PEOPLE FROM COMING OUT BECAUSE THEY
WILL FEEL INTIMIDATED, IT IS A PLOY THAT IS WORKING.
AND YOU
SEE ALL THESE PEOPLE BELIEVE IT IS A RIGGED ELECTION, HE SAYS IT
EVERY 10 SECONDS.