DAVID: THE SUPREME COURT IS
ROLLING BACK PRESIDENT BIDEN’S
POWER GRAB AT THE EPA.
WILL BIDEN AND HIS BUREAUCRATS
FIGHT BACK?
HERE TO EXPLAIN IS ALEX EPSTEIN.
I WANT TO BRIEFLY MENTION ONE
THING JUSTICE NEIL GORSUCH SAID
IN HIS DECISION IN WEST VIRGINIA
VERSUS EPA.
HE SAYS THE CONSTITUTION DOES
NOT AUTHORIZE AGENCIES TO USE
PEN AND PHONE REGULATIONS AS
SUBSTITUTES FOR LAWS PASSED BY
THE PEOPLE’S REPRESENTATIVES.
THAT SEEMS TO ME TO BE THE GUT
OF THE DECISION.
>> YEAH.
THE EPA DECIDED, EVEN THOUGH
CONGRESS SAID NOTHING IN ITS
LAWS ABOUT CONTROLLING CO2, AND
IT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO
WHEN THEY AMENDED THE CLEAN AIR
ACT IN 1990.
THIS DECISION CAME DOWN ON THAT
IN ITS REASONING.
BUT IT NEEDS TO GO FURTHER.
DAVID: WHEN I HEAR GOVERNMENT
AND UNLIMITED POWER IN THE SAME
SENTENCE, I GET EXAR NERVOUS.
-- I GET VERY NERVOUS. THE DECISION I THINK IN 2011,
THE DECISION I THINK IN 2011,
MASSACHUSETTS CHEW,MASS
MASSACHUSETTS VERSUS EPA.
IT’S REALLY THAT DECISION THAT
IS AT THE CRUX OF THE MATTER.
THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF THEIR
OVERREACH, NO?
>> THAT NEEDS TO BE OVERTURNED
BY THE SAME LOGIC HERE.
THERE IS NOTHING IN THE CLEAN
AIR ACT TO JUSTIFY THAT.
CO2 ISN’T A POLLUTANT.
THIS IS TOTALLY WRONG.
>> YOU CAN SEE ALL KINDS OF WAYS
THEY CAN MISUSE IT.
COWS EXHALE CARBON DIOXIDE.
SO THEY CAN SAY YOU CAN CUT YOUR
CATTLE HERD IN HALF.
I AM WONDERING WHEN THEY DEAL
WITH THAT, WILL THE SUPREME
COURT ITSELF EXTENDS THE
DECISION THEY TOOK THIS WEEK TO
GO AFTER MASSACHUSETTS EPA OR
WILL SOME OTHER COURT DO THAT?
>> I’M NOT SURE WHAT THEY WILL
DO.
IT’S IMPLIED BY THEIR DECISION.
BUT THEY DON’T SPECIFICALLY SAY
GOVERNMENT SHOULDN’T BE
REGULATING C02.
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION FEELS
THEY HAVE A LOT TO PLAY WITH.
IT’S REALLY A LAWLESS
INSTITUTION.
DAVID: THERE ARE OTHER
BUREAUCRACIES USING THESE
ANTI-POLLUTION ELEMENTS IN ORDER
TO EXTENDS THEIR AUTHORITY AND GRAB MORE POWER ON THEIR OWN.
GRAB MORE POWER ON THEIR OWN.
WINS THE SEC, THE SECURITIES AND
EXCHANGE THAT CAME OUT ON THE
HALF A MILLION DOLLARS JUST FOR
THE PAPERWORK.
BUT THEN THERE WILL BE
RESTRICTIONS ON USE OF ENERGY.
>> THIS WHOLE THING IS A TOTAL
VIOLATION OF WHAT DISCLOSE OUR
IS SUPPOSED TO BE.
YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO BE DISCLOSING
MATERIAL THINGS PEOPLE DON’T
KNOW ABOUT.
WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IS
GET YOU TO DISCLOSE.
YOUR PLAN TO PRODUCE LESS FOSSIL FUEL.
AND HAVE THE GALL TO DO THIS IN
THE MIDDLE OF A RECESSION.
DAVID: CAN IT BE USED TO TURN
AROUND THE PROPOSED RULE BY THE
SEC.
>> SOME OF THE REASONING CAN
APPLY, BUT IT’S SO HARD TO
PREDICT EXACTLY WHAT THE COURTS
ARE GOING TO DO AND NOT GOING
DO.
BUT THE LOGIC APPLIES.
YOU CAN’T JUST DICTATE THINGS
YOU WANT AND MAKE THEM MAGICALLY
APPEAR FROM LAWS THAT DON’T TALK
ABOUT THEM AT ALL.
DAVID: I THINK IT WAS A GIFT TO
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
BUT NO MATTER WHAT, YOU TOUCHED
ON THIS IN YOUR REMARKS A MOMENT
AGO.
THE ADMINISTRATION STILL CLAIMS
THE ONLY SHOWED YUM IS THE
PRODUCER OF FOSSIL FUELS.
WE HAD THAT STATEMENT COME OUT,
HE’S A SPECIAL COORDINATOR FOR
INFRASTRUCTURE.
>> THERE IS NOTHING THE INDUSTRY
NEEDS, LITERALLY NOTHING THE
INDUSTRY NEEDS TO INCREASE
PRODUCTION IN THE YOUTHS
ADDITIONAL OIL.
THEY HAVE ALL THE PERMITS AND
THE EQUIPMENT.
THEY DON’T NEED ANYTHING AT ALL
FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
>> THAT’S THE LEAST TRUE THING I
CAN IMAGINE.
THE AMERICAN ENERGY LINES PUT OUT 1.
OUT 1.
>> --PUT OUT 100 ANTI-FOSSIL FUE
MOVEMENTS THAT CAUSED THIS.
FOSSIL FUEL REDUCTION AND
REFINING AND TRANSPORTATION.
WE HAVE LESS SUPPLY, AND DEMAND
CANNOT BE MET IT’S A SIMPLE
SOLUTION.
BUT THE PEOPLE WHO CAUSED THE
PROBLEM ARE BLAMING IT ON ANYONE
BUT THEMSELVES.
DAVID: EVEN WHEN THE EVIDENCE IS
ABSOLUTELY CLEAR.
>> IT’S IMPORTANT THAT THE
WRIGHT PEOPLE BE IMPLICATED IN
THIS ENERGY CRISIS.
WHEN WE HAVE A CRISIS PEOPLE’S
MINDS ARE OPEN.
I TOLD THE SENATE THE OBAMA
POLICIES WILL CAUSE A GLOBAL
ENERGY CRISIS AND IT WOULD LEAD
TO HIRE FOOD PRICES.
IT’S IMPORTANT THAT THOSE OF US
WHO ARE SAY SAY THEY ARE RIDE,
AND THE PEOPLE HORM WRONG GET
BLAMED.
DAVID: ALEX EPSTEIN, THANKS FOR