[Yusuf] Have you read the books?
[Sikh H] I believed them because the person who said it,
[Sikh H] the person who said it, he had a beard and he
[Sikh H] had weapons and he was from India and he had
[Sikh H] a turban and that's why I believe him.
[Sikh H] My historians, my historians are those with big
[Sikh H] beards and a long hair, big turbans, and they carry weapons.
[Yusuf] I can't—
[Hashim] Are you winding us up?
[Hashim] I'm bringing in a new person.
[Hashim] I see here...
[Mansur] H or Dragon or H.
[Hashim] H, yeah.
[Sikh H] Hello, can you hear me?
[Panelists] Yes, we can.
[Mansur] How are you doing?
[Sikh H] Thank you so much.
[Sikh H] I'm good, thank you.
[Sikh H] So yeah, I just like to say personally, I know
[Sikh H] Christianity is illogical, but this is going to
[Sikh H] be very hard for us to prove.
[Sikh H] I mean, only the spiritual masters, they can prove it,
[Sikh H] but it's going to be very difficult for us to prove.
[Sikh H] These Christians, they were there when
[Sikh H] your Prophet Muhammad was there.
[Sikh H] They studied him, you know?
[Sikh H] They studied our gurus when our gurus were there.
[Sikh H] They know everything about us.
[Sikh H] They know how much hair I have on my face.
[Sikh H] Uncle Hashim, Uncle Mansur, they know how
[Sikh H] much hair you have on your face.
[Sikh H] They know everything about you.
[Sikh H] So it's going to be very hard
[Sikh H] to prove that their faith is wrong.
[Sikh H] So my question—
[Hashim] I wish they knew God as well
[Hashim] more than the number of hair on my face, you know?
[Hashim] Because ultimately, that is what is going
[Hashim] to count in the Hereafter.
[Hashim] Now, you said it's going to be
[Hashim] difficult to prove unless you were some
[Hashim] sort of a spiritual master or something.
[Hashim] Why is that?
[Hashim] Why can't a normal person, an average person like
[Hashim] you and me, why can't we use logic and
[Hashim] our own deductive analysis to come to a conclusion
[Hashim] what is right and what is not right
[Hashim] when it comes to belief in God Almighty?
[Sikh H] That sort of goes away from a question
[Sikh H] that I was going to answer,
[Sikh H] but I'm happy to go into that as well, briefly.
[Hashim] No, no! Please ask your question.
[Hashim] That's fine.
[Sikh H] Yeah? Uh...
[Sikh H] Yeah, so my question—
[Sikh H] I'll come back to that Hashim.
[Sikh H] I'd love to come back to that
[Sikh H] and I will straight afterwards.
[Sikh H] But the question was that from age twelve to age 30,
[Sikh H] what was Jesus doing from age twelve to 30?
[Sikh H] This is missing from their books.
[Sikh H] And I'll tell you why.
[Sikh H] I'll tell you why.
[Sikh H] What he was doing from age twelve.
[Sikh H] Joseph had sent him to India.
[Sikh H] He'd sent him to Bihar.
[Sikh H] The University of Nalanda.
[Sikh H] The University of Nalanda is the
[Sikh H] second university that ever existed.
[Sikh H] The first university that ever existed was
[Sikh H] called the University of Dakshila, which is
[Sikh H] now in modern day Pakistan.
[Sikh H] So Jesus Christ, Jesus, he was sent to
[Sikh H] study in India from age twelve to 30.
[Sikh H] And then when he went back, he um....
[Sikh H] the Christians, they tried to kill him.
[Sikh H] And what happened was his
[Sikh H] disciples, they stole his body.
[Sikh H] And then when he recovered, he went back to India
[Sikh H] and he stayed there and lived till he was 108.
[Sikh H] And who says this?
[Sikh H] This is the Buddhist monks.
[Yusuf] Sorry to interrupt you, bro.
[Yusuf] Was this a question?
[Yusuf] Because it doesn't sound like one.
[Yusuf] It sounds more—
[Sikh H] Yeah, I'm getting to it.
[Sikh H] The Buddhist monks have it in their
[Sikh H] history books that this is what happened.
[Sikh H] They have it in their books and Jesus come back
[Sikh H] and he told them and he studied with them.
[Sikh H] So my question—
[Yusuf] So what's your question, bro?
[Sikh H] My question is why—
[Sikh H] Why do the Christians not know about this?
[Hashim] Okay.
[Hashim] Do you know when the
[Hashim] University of Nalanda was established?
[Sikh H] Yeah, I think it was 2500 BC.
[Hashim] It's actually the fifth century.
[Sikh H] Sorry, I don't mean the—
[Sikh H] No, I don't—
[Hashim] If you are in fifth century, 427 CE
[Hashim] and Jesus had gone by then,
[Hashim] how his uncle—sorry, how could his
[Hashim] father or his stepfather sent him to that university?
[Yusuf] And how did you—
[Yusuf] You said 2500 BC, isn't it?
[Sikh H] Yeah, sorry, I made a—
[Sikh H] I made a mistake.
[Sikh H] It's not actually the University of Nalanda.
[Sikh H] It's not the name.
[Sikh H] Nalanda is a city.
[Sikh H] Nalanda is a city and the whole
[Sikh H] world used to go there to study.
[Sikh H] That was the learning center of the world at that time.
[Sikh H] So people used to go there and study.
[Sikh H] And there was a university there in
[Sikh H] Bihar, and that's where he went.
[Sikh H] So it was a university in Nalanda.
[Hashim] And what language did he study in?
[Sikh H] That I'm not too sure, to be honest.
[Hashim] The most basic thing you don't know, and you
[Hashim] know the rest of the history about Jesus Christ.
[Hashim] Like from the age of twelve to 30, he went to
[Hashim] this university, which we don't even know if it existed.
[Hashim] And that was your claim.
[Hashim] You did apologize and take that back.
[Hashim] But still, which institute did he go to in Nalanda?
[Sikh H] Yeah, uhm—the Buddhist—see, again like I just—
[Yusuf] What's the evidence that this was real, by the way?
[Hashim] He must have gone to an institute.
[Sikh H] Yeah, the Buddhist monks, they have
[Sikh H] it in their history books.
[Sikh H] But me personally—
[Yusuf] Which history books?
[Sikh H] The Buddhist monks, all of them.
[Sikh H] If you go to India, you ask all—
[Yusuf] All of the books?
[Sikh H] Yeah, all of the Buddhist monks.
[Sikh H] Yeah, they'll tell you the same thing.
[Sikh H] I've been on this path.
[Sikh H] I've just come back to Sikhism
[Sikh H] like it's been a year now.
[Sikh H] So everything I know about spirituality,
[Sikh H] about religion, about faith,
[Sikh H] it's only been like a year.
[Sikh H] So I'm just coming back and I know hardly nothing at all.
[Sikh H] I know hardly anything at all, I just—
[Hashim] Do the Buddhists believe
[Hashim] all the sources that you read from?
[Hashim] Do they believe that Jesus did
[Hashim] not have a biological father?
[Yusuf] Can you just give me a reference
[Yusuf] as well so I can check?
[Yusuf] Like a particu—like the—
[Yusuf] I want to look into the evidence
[Yusuf] of what you've claimed there.
[Yusuf] What book do I read?
[Yusuf] I don't need loads, just one book that states
[Yusuf] this specifically that I could use to—
[Sikh H] I couldn't give you one.
[Sikh H] I'm sorry.
[Yusuf] Have you read the books?
[Sikh H] I believe them because the person who said it
[Sikh H] the person who said it, he had a beard and he
[Sikh H] had weapons and he was from India and he had
[Sikh H] a turban and that's why I believe him.
[Sikh H] My historians, my historians are those with big
[Sikh H] beards and a long hair, big turbans, and they carry weapons.
[Yusuf] I can't—
[Hashim] Are you winding us up?
[Mansur] H, you've made an excellent point there
[Mansur] I mean, well done.
[Mansur] This is exactly the stream that we are talking about.
[Mansur] Logical fallacies.
[Mansur] So often the—
[Hashim] Appealing to authority comes to mind.
[Hashim] I have a feeling he's winding us up.
[Mansur] So that's precisely the show, you know.
[Mansur] You've made an excellent point,
[Mansur] and you're trying to demonstrate to people
[Mansur] that actually you can't take evidence from
[Mansur] just because people have long beard and dress
[Mansur] in a particular way and come from a particular culture.
[Mansur] It doesn't mean that it's the truth.
[Mansur] So thank you for enlightening us and agreeing with
[Mansur] us that this is indeed a logical fallacy.
[Mansur] You take care and we see you again in another stream.
[Yusuf] I hope that was a troll. I hope.
[Hashim] Alright, take care.
[Hashim] That was good.
[Hashim] At least it was funny.
[Yusuf] To be honest, I didn't think
[Yusuf] troll until those very closing comments.