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[LAUGHS]
>> Greg: DON’T BELIEVE WHAT
YOU SEE.
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS
MAKING IT HARDER TO DETERMINE
WHAT TO REALITY.
FAKE AI PHOTOS ARE FLOODING
EVERY CORNER OF THE INTERNET,
AND IMAGES ARE GETTING MORE
CONVINCING BY THE DAY.
LOTS OF FOLKS GOT FOOLED BY THIS
PHONING PHOTO OF THE POPE,
INCLUDING ME.
RACKED UP 30 MILLION VIEWS.
EVEN EXPERTS WERE NOT ABLE TO
AUTOMATICALLY FLAG IT AS FAKE.
AI IS ALSO GETTING BUSTED FOR
MAKING UP STORIES AND CITING NEW
STORIES THAT NEVER EXISTED.
I HAVE TO CONVINCE ADMIT, I SAID
HAS GOT DRIP.
>> Greg: I AM NOT SURPRISED
THAT YOU WOULD BE FOOLED.
>> Jesse: ME NEITHER.
[LAUGHS]
>> Greg: YOU KNOW, IT’S FUNNY.
I THINK IT’S EASY RIGHT NOW TO
TELL WHEN IT IS FAKE BECAUSE IT
IS TO YOU ON THE NOSE, TOO
IMPROBABLE.
>> Jesse: DID YOU REALLY THINK
THIS WAS FAKE IMMEDIATELY?
>> Greg: OF COURSE.
WELL, I TALKED TO THE POPE.
I DID MY FACT-CHECKING.
I NEVER GO ON VACATION.
WE WORRY ABOUT ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE MESSING WITH OUR
SENSE OF REALITY.
THAT’S ALREADY HAPPENING WITH
NEWS.
THESE DAYS EVERY STORY STARTS AT
THE END, AND PEOPLE WORK
BACKWARDS.
UNTIL WE HAVE AN ASSUMPTION OR
CONCLUSION -- THAT IS NOT HOW IT
IS SUPPOSED TO GO.
BUT NOW THE PRECONCEPTIONS ARE
DECIDED BEFOREHAND.
AI, I’M HOPING -- I’M VERY
OPTIMISTIC ABOUT AI, THAT IT
WILL BE LIKE OLD JOURNALISM
WHERE IT TAKES EVERYTHING AND
RELIES ON PROBABILITY OF WHAT
WILL HAPPEN.
YOU CANNOT GET BIAS IN THAT
UNLESS SOMEONE IS CONTROLLING
THE BIAS.
>> Jesse: WHAT ABOUT THE GUY
WHO WAS FALSELY ACCUSED OF
SOMETHING HE DID NOT DO BY AI?
THAT’S NOT A VERY GOOD START.
>> Dana: IT SCARES ME.
LET ME GO BACK.
IN GRADUATE SCHOOL, I WROTE A
TERRIBLE PAPER, BUT IT WAS MY
CONCERN AT THE TIME.
YOU TWO MIGHT REMEMBER THIS.
WHEN O.J. WAS UNDER TRIAL, THERE
WAS A "TIME" MAGAZINE COVER, AND
THERE WAS A LOT OF CONTROVERSY
OVER IT BECAUSE THEY SHADED IT.
MY PAPER WAS ABOUT HOW
ETHICALLY, THAT WAS WRONG.
THE PICTURE SHOULD BE WHAT IT
IS.
WE ARE SO FAR AS THAT NOW.
I LIVED WITH A LOT OF FEAR THAT
EVERY MORNING I AM GOING TO BE
THE FIRST ONE WHO REPORTS ON A
FAKE VIDEO OR PHOTOGRAPH AS IF
IT WERE REAL.
I AM SO CONCERNED ABOUT IT
BECAUSE I DON’T KNOW HOW YOU
WOULD DO THAT.
ANNA BREAKING NEWS SITUATION,
HOW DO YOU KNOW IF IT IS TRUE OR
NOT?
I DON’T REALLY HAVE AN ANSWER.
I JUST HAVE A LOT OF CONCERN.
>> Greg: I SHOULD PROBABLY BE
CONCERN, BUT I THINK I KNOW IN
MY GUT WHAT IS WRONG.
GERALDO, SLOW DOWN.
>> Geraldo: YOU’VE GOT TO GET
A SECOND SOURCE. THE BURDEN IS ON THE BELIEVER.
THE BURDEN IS ON THE BELIEVER.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU REPEATS THE
"BULLSHAT" YOU’RE A
"BULLSHATTER"."
>> Jesse: A LOT OF PEOPLE SELL
FOR THAT TOO, KATIE.
>> Katie: A LOT OF THE PEOPLE
WHO DO THIS -- THE EXPERTS LOOK
AT THIS, AND THEY CAN TELL THE
DIFFERENCE.
IF THEY LOOK AT THOSE ALL THE
TIME, ISN’T THAT AN ISSUE?
THE GOOD NEWS IS GREG WILL BE
FINE BECAUSE HE IS BEEN NICE TO
ALL THE ROBOTS.
WELCOME, WELCOME.
HE WILL BE GOOD.
>> Greg: DO YOU REMEMBER THE
STORIES ABOUT THE FIRST MOTION
PICTURES?
THEY SHOWED A TRAIN COMING.
EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE GOT UP
AND RAN BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT
USED TO THE TECHNOLOGY.
WE ARE ALWAYS BEHIND THE
TECHNOLOGY.
AND THEN WE GET IN FRONT OF
THEM, AND THEN WE BECOME
ADDICTED TO IT.
>> Jesse: HOW DO YOU GET IN
FRONT OF A TECHNOLOGY THAT LOOKS
SO REAL?
IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A BIG
PUFFY JACKET.
>> Katie: YOU CAN JUST SAY IT
IS FAKE.
>> Jesse: THE ONE THING THAT
WAS NOT FAKE, THE DALAI LAMA.
HE WAS CAUGHT ON CAMERA ASKING A
YOUNG MAN TO SUCK ON HIS TONGUE.
THAT WAS NOT AI GENERATED.
>> Greg: NO IT WASN’T.
THAT’S WHAT I’M SAYING.
AND YOU CAN TELL.
HE APOLOGIZED.
>> Geraldo: WHY DID THE
DALAI LAMA SAY THAT?
>> Dana: HE DID NOT SAY IT.
HE DID IT.
>> Geraldo: IT IS NOT PART OF
THE RITUAL?
>> Greg: ARE YOU RUNNING PRESS