>> LAST NIGHT THE FEDS FINALLY MOVED IN ON THE MILITIA MEMBERS
ILLEGALLY OCCUPYING THE MALHEUR WILDLIFE REFUGE, CAPTURING SOME
OF THE LEADERSHIP ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE AREA AND
ENGAGING IN A SHOOTOUT WITH SOME OTHER MILITIA MEMBERS, RESULTING
IN ONE DEATH.
THE OVERVIEW --
>> HE GOT THERE REALLY FAST.
WE DO HAVE MUGSHOTS OF SOME, NOT
ALL, OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ARRESTED JUST LAST NIGHT.
>>[BUFFERING]
>> WE CANNOT LET THAT PICTURE SLIDE WITHOUT NOTING RYAN BUNDY.
HIS PICTURE ALONE IS GRAPHIC 23, SO WE CAN SEE THAT AS WELL.
HE
IS THE UPPER LEFT CORNER, SECOND FROM THE LEFT.
AMMON BUNDY IS
FIRST ON THE LEFT, THEN RYAN BUNDY.
HAS THERE EVER BEEN A
BIGGER DEFINITION OF [SPITTOON SOUND EFFECT] THAN THAT PICTURE?
>>TO BE FAIR, HE HAD JUST BEEN SHOT.
>>NO HE DIDN'T, THE OTHER RYAN GOT SHOT.
AND THAT IS ALSO IN
DISPUTE -- TWO OF THE GUYS IN THE CAR SAY HE DIDN'T GET SHOT,
IT WAS SHRAPNEL THAT HIT HIM.
ONE HYSTERICAL WOMAN, WHO YOU'LL
HEAR FROM A SECOND, SAYS EVERYBODY -- THE COPS ARE
KILLING EVERYBODY, THEY SHOT HIM.
THIS IS RYAN BUNDY.
IN HIS
MUG SHOT -- THAT IS HIS NORMAL STATE OF AFFAIRS.
HE STILL HAS
THE CHEW IN HIS MOUTH AS THEY HAVE ARRESTED HIM AND HE WENT
THROUGH THIS THING WHERE PEOPLE WERE SHOT, NONETHELESS, HE IS
STILL [SPITTOON SOUND EFFECT].
YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A HICK, THAT IS THE DEFINITION.
>>THEY DID A HICK JOB ON HIM.
>>LET'S GET SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON.
I WILL JUST JUMP IN
WITH THE LAST GRAPHIC JOHN HAD, ONE OF THE MILITIA LEADERS
ARRESTED IN ARIZONA?
WHAT THE HELL IS HE DOING IN ARIZONA?
THIS IS AMAZING TO ME.
>>CRAZY OPEN BORDERS, BASICALLY.
>>[BUFFERING]
>>THEY WENT AND BOUGHT GROCERIES.
THE THING THAT AMAZES
ME IS, I KEPT READING, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, HOW ARE THEY
CONTAINED?
EARLIER, BEFORE THE SHOOT OUT.
NOW WE HAVE MORE
DETAILS -- I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT IS FAIR TO CALL IT A
SHOOTOUT, ONE GUY GOT KILLED BECAUSE HE CHARGED THE COPS --
AND THEN YOU READ THE DETAILS AND YOU FIND OUT THEY WERE FREE
TO COME AND GO.
THE DUDE GOES TO ARIZONA, NOBODY ARRESTS THEM,
THEY GET GROCERIES, NOBODY ARRESTS THEM.
THEY SAY THEY WENT
AND TALKED TO THE FBI UNARMED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.
THE FBI -- IF YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH A DUDE WHO
TOOK OVER FEDERAL PROPERTY WITH A WEAPON, HERE'S HOW THE
CONVERSATION GOES: YOU ARE UNDER ARREST.
THIS STORY IS THE
DEFINITION OF WHITE PRIVILEGE, AND IF YOU DON'T SEE THAT YOU
HAVE WHITE PRIVILEGE, YOU HAVE IT AND DON'T REALIZE IT.
WHICH
IS THE WHOLE POINT.
EVENTUALLY THIS FINICUM GUY GOT SHOT, LET
JOHN GIVE YOU ALL THE DETAILS.
>>[BUFFERING]
>>A STARVE OUT, WHERE YOU HOPE THAT THEY DON'T BUY ENOUGH
GROCERIES FOR ALL OF THEM TO EAT.
THAT IS WHAT THE GOVERNMENT
DOES, THEY LOCK THEM DOWN AND STARVE THEM OUT.
THEY DON'T EAT
WITH THEM, NECESSARILY.
BUT WE HAVE THE DETAILS ON LAVOY, BUT
RIGHT OFF THE BAT WE HAVE A COMMENTARY BY CLIVEN BUNDY, A
POLITICAL LEADER, APPARENTLY, NOW, WHO SAYS --
>>HE DEFINES "INNOCENT" DIFFERENT THAN I DO, I THINK --
>> I FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT A DIFFERENT GROUP THAN THE FEDERAL
PEOPLE.
>> AGREE TO DISAGREE ON THAT.
NOW, IN TERMS OF THE REACTION
FROM THE MILITIA MEMBERS, THEY FIND OUT THAT LAVOY HAS BEEN
SHOT, AND THERE IS IMMEDIATELY BOTH AN UPROAR IN THE MILITIA
CIRCLES IN OREGON AND AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND WE ALSO HAVE
DIFFERENT IDEAS OF WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM, IT TOOK A WHILE FOR THE
REAL STORY TO COME OUT.
HERE IS VIDEO RELEASED BY THE MILITIA
MEN IN OREGON WHEN THEY FIND OUT ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN KILLED
BY POLICE.
>>THE MEDIA HAS BEEN ORDERED TO LEAVE, THAT MEANS THEY
ARE COMING TO KILL US AND THEY DON'T WANT THEM TO SEE THAT.
THEY WILL MURDER ALL OF US, AND THE MEDIA ARE COWARDS.
>>STAY AND SHOW THE TRUTH.
SHOW THE TRUTH.
>>THE MEDIA HAS BEEN WAITING FOR A BLOODBATH THIS WHOLE TIME
WE'VE BEEN HERE.
NOW THERE WILL BE ONE AND THEY ARE RUNNING.
THEY ARE TOLD TO RUN BECAUSE THE FEDS DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHO IS
MURDERING US.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BETTER WAKE UP.
GET HERE AND
FIGHT FOR YOUR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.
IT IS ON.
>>WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN THE MILITIA COMES AFTER YOU, FBI?
>>ALL YOU MILITARY THAT HAS BEEN FIGHTING FOR YOUR COUNTRY
OVERSEAS, YOU CAN FIGHT FOR YOUR COUNTRY RIGHT HERE IN AMERICA.
GET HERE, GET SOME.
THIS IS HISTORY IN THE MAKING.
THERE ARE
NO LAWS IN THIS UNITED STATES NOW, THIS IS A FREE-FOR-ALL
ARMAGEDDON.
ANY MILITARY OR LAW ENFORCEMENT OR FEDS THAT STAND
UP AND FUCK THEIR OATH, DON'T ABIDE BY THEIR OATH, ARE THE
ENEMY.
IF THEY STOP YOU FROM GETTING HERE, KILL THEM.
>> RIGHT OFF THE BAT, ALL OF YOU WHO KEEP TWEETING US AND HAVE
SAID SINCE THE BEGINNING THAT THEY HAVEN'T THREATENED
ANYBODY, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE, HE JUST SAID TO KILL THEM.
>>IF AUTHORITIES TRY TO STOP YOU, KILL THEM.
>>[BUFFERING]
>> COULD YOU IMAGINE, IF THE COPS STOP YOU AT ALL, KILL THEM?
WE WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THESE GUYS?
THEY WERE FREE TO
COME AND GO FOR THREE WEEKS.
THERE WAS NO PERIMETER.
THE FBI
SAYS WE SET UP A PERIMETER.
DAMN RIGHT I'M WORRIED, WHY DIDN'T
YOU SET UP A PERIMETER THE FIRST TIME THEY CAPTURED A FEDERAL
BUILDING WITH ARMS TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY'LL MURDER PEOPLE WHO TRY
TO TAKE IT FROM THEM?
THAT IS THEFT OF FEDERAL PROPERTY, A
SENTENCE PUNISHABLE BY UP TO 10 YEARS.
IF YOU TAKE ANY FEDERAL
PROPERTY ABOVE $1000 WITHOUT PERMISSION, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT
HAPPENED HERE.
THEY TOOK FAIRLY LARGE FEDERAL PROPERTY.
AND HERE
THESE GUYS ON CAMERA SAY WE WILL MURDER THE COPS, RIGHT, IF THEY
COME TO GET US.
YOU STOLE SHIT, YOU CRIMINAL.
YOU THUG.
YOU
STOLE IT WITH WEAPONS AND NOW YOU SAY IF YOU COME AND TAKE IT
BACK I WILL KILL YOU?
AND MORE PEOPLE SHOULD COME AND BE
TRAITORS TO AMERICA WHILE PRETENDING TO BE PATRIOTS?
LOOK
AT THE WHITE PRIVILEGE HERE.
BY THE WAY, NOT JUST WHITE --
RIGHT-WING PRIVILEGE.
BECAUSE IF LEFT WINGERS HAD TAKEN OVER,
ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS HAD TAKEN OVER, AND SAID WE WILL DO THIS
AND DO THAT, WHATEVER IT WAS, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT IS LATINO
OR BLACK OR GREENPEACE OR ANIMAL-RIGHTS GUYS, NOBODY GETS
TO COME [BUFFERING]
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING EXACTLY LIKE THE MUSLIM RADICALS.
HE WAS
A GOOD MARTYR, SACRIFICED FOR A GOOD PURPOSE.
NOW, THE GUY WHO
WAS KILLED, FINICUM, ACCORDING TO TWO GUYS IN THE CAR, GOT OUT
OF THE CAR, WOULD NOT LISTEN TO COPS, RUSHED AT THE COPS AND THE
COPS HAD TO SHOOT HIM.
THERE IS AN 18-YEAR-OLD WHO IS
MELODRAMATIC WHO GOT TO GO TO THE CAMP WHO NOW SAYS, NO, HE
HAD HIS ARMS UP AND WAS SURRENDERING.
HER COMPATRIOTS
WHO WERE IN THE CAR WITH HER, THE OTHER MILITIA MEMBERS, ARE
LIKE, THAT IS NOT TRUE.
HE CHARGED THE COPS.
SO NOW THAT
FINICUM GUY SAYS, BEFORE HE GOT SHOT, A COUPLE DAYS AGO, HE SAYS
WE USED TO WALK UP TO THE FEDS AND TALK TO THE AGENT IN A
FRIENDLY MANNER.
CAN YOU IMAGINE, BLACK PANTHERS OR ARMED
MUSLIMS TAKE OVER A BUILDING AND WALK UP TO THE FBI AND HAVE A
FRIENDLY CONVERSATION, AND THEY DON'T GET ARRESTED?
THIS IS
WHITE PRIVILEGE.
YOU CAN STEAL STUFF, STEAL FEDERAL STUFF, AND
THEY DON'T EVEN ARREST YOU FOR THREE WEEKS.
AND THEN HE SAYS,
THEY ARE NO LONGER WILLING TO ENGAGE IN FAIR DIALOGUE.
YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW YOUR PRIVILEGE.
>>THE TENOR HAS CHANGED.
>>THE GUY SAYS, WHY ARE YOU WRAPPING IT UP?
WHY THE RATTLING
OF SABRES?
YOU WRAPPED IT UP WHEN YOU TOOK THE BUILDING WITH
ARMS.
HE SAYS, WHY BE SO UNFRIENDLY?
WHY ARE YOU SO
THREATENING?
BECAUSE YOU WERE THREATENING WHEN YOU GRABBED YOUR
ASSAULT WEAPONS AND TOOK OVER THE FEDERAL BUILDING.
AND SAID
WE WILL MURDER ANYONE WHO COMES INSIDE THAT IS FEDERAL
AUTHORITIES OR LOCAL AUTHORITIES.
THAT IS THE
THREATENING PART.
BUT IF YOU ARE WHITE AND RIGHT-WING --
BECAUSE THE IDEA IS, I OWN THE PLACE.
EVEN IF IT IS NOT MINE I WILL STEAL IT AND NOW I OWN IT,
BECAUSE THAT IS THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY.
>>AND THEN YOU GET MAD BECAUSE THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE LAW.
THAT IS WHAT THAT FAT BASTARD SAID.
>>YOU ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW.
I HAVE MORE.
WHY IS THAT
18-YEAR-OLD IN THE CAR?
THE ONE MAKING UP STORIES, ACCORDING TO OTHER MILITIA
MEMBERS?
>>VICTORIA SHARP.
>>LAST WEEK, HER MOTHER AND SIX SIBLINGS CAME TO SING FOR THE
MILITANTS.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE DOING?
THE FBI, LOCAL
AUTHORITIES, LET PEOPLE GO IN AND OUT OF THE HOUSE.
THEY LET
KIDS WALK INTO THE HOUSE TO SING FOR THEM.
COULD YOU IMAGINE
MUSLIM RADICALS TAKE OVER A FEDERAL BUILDING WITH WEAPONS --
NO, NO, TO BE FAIR, KIDS CAME IN TO SING FOR THEM AND WE LET
THEM.
ARE YOU FUCKING -- NO, YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
EVEN IF YOU
ARE THE DUMBEST RIGHT-WINGER IN THE COUNTRY, YOU DON'T BELIEVE
THAT.
YOU KNOW WE WOULD SURROUND THE BUILDING, WE WOULD NOT LET
ANYBODY IN OR OUT, BUT IF YOU ARE WHITE AND RIGHT-WING, YOU
GET TO DO WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT.
YOU CAN STEAL THIS SHIT --
THE WHOLE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE
ENTITLED TO STEAL OTHER PEOPLE'S STUFF AND GET AWAY WITH IT AND
HAVE MY FAMILY JOIN ME.
SHARP, THE 18-YEAR-OLD, NOT ARRESTED.
>>[BUFFERING]
>> THEY WERE TEENAGERS, THEY WERE UNDER 18.
THEY ARE AT A
POOL PARTY AND GET THROWN AROUND LIKE THIS, YOU ARE A FUCKING
BLACK GIRL SO WE THROW YOU AROUND LIKE THIS.
A WHITE GIRL
IN A SHOOTOUT WITH COPS, YOU WALK AWAY?
YOU WALK AWAY.
WHITE
PRIVILEGE.
YOU DON'T GET IT BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE I OWN THIS
COUNTRY, I CAN DO WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT.
I CAN TELL COPS I
WILL MURDER THEM, HAVE ONE OF MY BUDDIES GET IN A SHOOTOUT WITH
COPS, AND I WALK THE FUCK AWAY.
YOU KNOW HOW QUICKLY SHE WOULD
HAVE BEEN PUT DOWN, LET ALONE ARRESTED, IF SHE WAS BLACK,
LATINO, MUSLIM, OR ANY OTHER MINORITY?
PUT HER ASIDE.
TWO OF
AMMON BUNDY'S BODYGUARDS, WHO WERE IN THE CAR, WERE SEIZED BY
AUTHORITIES AS THEY SEIZED EVERYBODY, QUESTIONED, AND THEN
THEY LET THEM GO.
COULD YOU IMAGINE -- I'VE GOT A MUSLIM
RADICAL LEADER HERE WHO TOOK A FEDERAL BUILDING WITH WEAPONS,
AND HIS BODYGUARDS WITH WEAPONS, IN A SHOOTOUT WITH COPS, THEY
GO, WELL, YOU WERE JUST BODYGUARDS.
YOU WERE JUST MUSLIM
JIHADIST BODYGUARDS, YOU ARE FREE TO GO.
THEY WERE FREE TO
GO, THEY ARE OUT RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF WHITE
PRIVILEGE.
BY THE WAY, RIGHT-WING.
NO WAY IF IT IS A
GREENPEACE OR OTHER PEOPLE, THAT THEY LET THEM GO.
>>IF IT IS A BERKELEY STUDENT, THEY GET PEPPER SPRAYED
FROM AN INCH AWAY.
>>[BUFFERING]
>> THEY MIGHT SHOOT YOU BUT THEY WILL NOT LET YOU WALK AWAY IF
YOU ARE ARMED.
BY THE WAY, EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THOSE CARS,
IF THEY ARE NOT WHITE RIGHT-WINGERS, YOU KNOW WHAT
HAPPENS?
LIFE SENTENCE.
I HAVE COVERED THIS A MILLION TIMES ON
THE SHOW, IT IS CALLED FELONY MURDER.
AND IT CAN BE A PERSON
INVOLVED IN COMMITTING A FELONY.
THIS IS THE MOST CLASSIC CASE,
AND ARMED BANK ROBBERY, A GUY GOES IN, HIS BUDDY GETS SHOT BY
THE COPS, HE GETS A LIFE SENTENCE BECAUSE SOMEBODY DIED
IN THE COMMISSION OF THAT CRIMINAL ACT.
SOMEONE DIED,
FINICUM DIED, ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE CARS, FELONY MURDER, LIFE
SENTENCE.
BUT THAT IS ONLY IF THEY ARE BLACK, LATINO, OR
ANOTHER MINORITY.
IF YOU ARE WHITE AND A RIGHT-WINGER, THEY
LET YOU WALK OUT OF THE FUCKING BUILDING.
THIS IS INSANE.
THERE
ARE TWO DIFFERENT LAWS IN THE COUNTRY AND WE WALK AROUND AND
PRETEND THERE ISN'T.
WHY AM I SO ANGRY TODAY?
BECAUSE IN MY
INFINITE FOOLISHNESS AND NAœVET…, I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS
THIS BAD.
AFTER ALL OF THIS, I THOUGHT, NO, THEY MUST HAVE A
PERIMETER AROUND THE PLACE.
ARREST THE BODYGUARDS?
OF COURSE
YOU ARREST THE BODYGUARDS AND PUT THEM IN JAIL.
I WAS WRONG.
IF YOU ARE WHITE AND RIGHT-WING IN THIS COUNTRY, YOU CAN DO
ALMOST ANYTHING AND GET AWAY WITH IT.
CLIVEN BUNDY, THE DAD
TALKING ABOUT MARTYRS, HE STILL OWES THE GOVERNMENT $1 MILLION.
HE'S LIKE, I'M NOT PAYING IT AND IF YOU COME TO COLLECT IT I WILL
SHOOT YOU IN THE HEAD.
CAN YOU IMAGINE A BLACK MAN WHO OWES $10
TO FEDERAL OR STATE AUTHORITIES AND HE SAYS YOU CAN'T COLLECT
THE $10 I OWE BECAUSE I WILL SHOOT YOU IN THE HEAD -- DO YOU
HAVE ANY IDEA HOW QUICKLY HE WOULD BE PUT DOWN?
TAMIR RICE
WAS A 12-YEAR-OLD, HE HAD A TOY GUN -- TAMIR RICE DID NOT SAY I
WILL KILL YOU, HE WAS SHOT DEAD IN TWO SECONDS.
THESE GUYS HAVE
BEEN SAYING FOR THREE WEEKS -- HE GETS TWO SECONDS, THEY GET
THREE WEEKS OF SAYING WE WILL MURDER YOU AND THEY STILL GET
AWAY WITH IT.
SO FINALLY AFTER THREE WEEKS THEY BOTHER TO
ARREST THEM.
FUCKING WHITE PRIVILEGE, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.