today we are going to take a look at making off a ceiling rese and pendant as if it is
in the ceiling as we would do when we're working saying a domestic dwelling often at college
we're clipping cables to wooden boards and we haven't got the ability to move the conductors
around or turn them over as well as often we only have two cables at our lighting point
and in the real world the likelihood is most of our lighting points are going to have three
cables so we'd have the supply coming in line neutral CPC the supply going outline neutral
and CPC and then the one that goes down to the switch with the switching line permanent
line and CPC and i've identified that's something we don't do at college is it when we're on
our apprenticeship we'd need to identify which one goes to the switch and it's one or the
other um i used to put two nicks in my one on site or you can write on it to identify
as the one that goes down to the switch so what we've got now is we've got the ability
to move these out up and down and across each other so meaning that we can lay them out
as best we can before we dress them into our ceiling rose and pendant i've got a variety
of them here so they're all similar so we'll have a block of two for our switch line a
block of three for our loop and a block of three for our neutral and all the ones i've
got here on the desk are exactly the same so we've got the same sort of scenario layout
so if yours doesn't look identical to this one so in this case we can see it's curved
round okay it's the same principle and i don't recommend disconnecting the conductors either
whether it be for a batten lamp holder or a ceiling rose and pendant because it gives
you two more connections to make off obviously once you've completed the ceiling rose itself
but i've taken mine away on this one just to give us the maximum amount of chance to
see what's going on but obviously we're going to leave the two outside ones that would have
the flex going down to the pendant so we're going to leave those two out of the way and
we've talked about in previous videos that these brass blocks here are a block of two
a block of three and a block of three and it wouldn't matter which one goes in which
of the holes however we always like to leave the outside ones for the flexible cable so
let's have a look first of all the way our conductors are lined up i've got the switching
line one on the side which is for the switch so that's a good starting position and then
i look at the other two which are my line um neutral and CPC's in and out these two
well my neutrals on this side and my neutrals on this side but actually my neutral block
is here so it's on the opposite side so i would rather have the neutral on this side
on both of these cables it's ever so easy in the real world these cables go up into
the ceiling so just pull them back a little bit we can just twist them round and then
push them back so twist them around and push them back and now look at it let's have a
look at our layout now we've got the neutrals on the correct side so this side where our
neutral block is we've got our neutrals our permanent lines which will go into our loop
and our CPC's we look at the one for the switching line let's just check that we've got the blue
one which isn't a neutral which is our switching line and our brown one which is our permanent
line and again you can see they're not the right way around just simply pull it up twist
it around poke it back into the ceiling and now we have all of our conductors lined up
correctly next we're going to strip the cables but let's move some of this stuff out the
way just to give ourselves a little bit more of a clear working space now i'm sure you're
aware when i've been teaching people i've been using a knife in order to score around
the outside PVC offering mechanical protection and then obviously stripping it back and in
recent videos i've been using my twin and earth or twin and CPC cable strippers as well
so i'll do both just to give people a variety of what we can do to strip them with so if
we take our knife again look at that we've got the ability to pull the cable out which
makes it nice so i'm going to bring it out i'm just going to gently score around with
my knife into position and then i'm going to snip down the middle of these and just
snip down the center and pull down to that scored area holding on to my conductors as
a go and just see where we're up to just there and hopefully this will just break away nice
and easily
and that's off okay so we've stripped it back and ready to go and again let's confirm they're
in the right place so i wanted it so my neutral was going to be on the side where my neutral
block is if we're using our twin and earth strippers straight forward bring them in as
we've seen before give them a little pull hopefully this comes straight off and again
just confirm my neutrals in the correct position which it is there and then our third one this
is the important one this is the only one i really need to know what one of the conductors
is and that's the blue one in here we've not used twin brown so the blue one will be not
a neutral it will be our switching line conductor so we're going to strip this one back exactly
the same as we've just done
okay i need to know what that blue one is again might just be a case of just putting
some more nicks in it so i've got actually i know what that is okay that is a switching
line conductor and not a neutral now i could put my brown sleeve in on it straight away
so i could drop that on straight away so i know what it is the only problem is when yours
is hanging upside down obviously there's a tendency for that to fall off so you need
to obviously curl it over to stop it falling off so there's two ways you can do it you
put some extra nicks in there put your brown sleeve in on so you know what it is and then
it's easy okay let's work out what we have got so we've got our two neutrals okay we've
got three CPC's and we've got our line in line out and our line down to our switch so
those three there will go in the center loop terminal these two here will go in my neutral
terminal my three CPC's in my earth in terminal and my switching line conductor down here
so it's just a case now of making it neat now a really good uh idea of a good standard
of work is when you undo a ceiling rose and pendant look at the way they've dressed the
cables in there it's like looking inside a consumer unit you go that was done that's
pucker so let's see if we can lay these out as best as we can i'm gonna get rid of the
CPC's first so if i pull them out the way so i can do my CPC's into my earth terminal
in here so we're going to dress these around now i've got two holes to choose from again
it's a solid brass block it doesn't matter where i go it's just a case of making them
look neat i'm going to try and put all three of them into one of the holes we have got
some extra cable poking into the ceiling so it's not the end of the world to leave masses
in here there is some cable in the back of the plasterboard where it goes into the roof
so we're going to dress these around so i'm going to take one round and try and keep it
nice and neat so if we go around like that for the first time in my videos you're not
going to see me double over the connections i'm a big fan of doubling over everywhere
but over the years the holes inside of ceiling rose and pendants have got smaller and smaller
and smaller to the point where you can't double them over really realistically and get them
in so put my green and yellow sleeving on probably need to just lose a little bit of
that and i'm gonna dress that one round i'm gonna try and get all three in the same place
so i'm gonna bring that one around next work out our green and yellow length i said yellow
on one of them and everybody commented about that i apologize it's green and yellow okay
just to clear the dictation up for everybody so we're going to bring that one round go
with that as a length and then bring this one round as well so trying to make them lay
nice and neatly against each other as well as we bring those CPC's around it's important
that we have the CPC connections in here even though it's an insulated fit and we know how
many times these in houses get changed over for metallic light fittings and then the CPC
will be used to earth the exposed conductive part which we've talked about a lot so two
of them are okay i think i'm a bit long on this one so i'm just going to bring that back
for length and then see if we can dress those in reasonably neatly bring my terminal screwdriver
i'm just going to put them in one of the holes i could use both let's see if we can get all
three into one hole so back off the screw and i'll be interested to see if they all
go in doesn't matter it's poking through slightly with the copper obviously they're the CPC's
they're not a live connection important to hold on to them as well just to make sure
you can see them going in so you can tend to the sleeving can move and actually you
don't put the conductor in until you give them a little tug at the end and find out
that actually you've got a connection missing it's usually after you've done the screw up
as well so it goes for the third one you can see all three coming through so they're all
three there so just tighten that up
those down reasonably tight there we go and then we just confirm a little bit of addressing
there so you can see how swung those in in order to make them look reasonably neat CPC's
are connected i could use both both terminals i used just one it doesn't matter now what
you want to do um we can do the neutrals maybe so let's move these out of the way what i
like to do is come through the center of the actual ceiling rose base because i like to
put my thumb out and just curl them over so i just give a little bit of a kick a little
bit of a kick curl so i just put that over my thumb and kick them out and then straighten
them out so they're nice and straight so we can sort of put them in a neat row so there
we go for that then we just got to work out the length if we come just past here for a
length and now we've got a choice of how to strip them we could come in as we've done
many times on the channel we can strip these back using a knife be careful not to press
too hard it's only the PVC we want to remove we could use something like this that has
a stripping element to it so again if i come into here and just make sure i squeeze out
nice and tight i can strip those back maybe a little bit more on that one get in the right
hole and then we've got those stripped back and then just go through the process so we're
going to just dress those around bringing my terminal screwdriver back off the screw
in both cases
drop my neutrals in
and then just tighten those up can be a little bit fiddly especially with holding your arms
above your head but over time you get used to doing that so once we've got those in so
they're nice and tight yep and then we can see that we're looking to dress those as well
so we're trying to keep them exactly the same length and straight to each other so that's
my two neutrals connected into my block here remember the flex will be on the outside the
blue element of the flex will be on the outside for my neutral connection i've got my lines
now these are permanent line connections sometimes called live but we know that the neutral and
the line conductor are classed as live conductors so what three browns line in line out and
line down to the switch returns as a switching line so exactly the same process i'm just
going to bring a little curl up on those over my thumb
i'm going to cut them to length
and then i'm going to strip those back i could it's just trying to be a bit flash and see
if we can do all three of these at once using this bit of kit here
there we go stripped all three at the same time just going to trim them back to length
and i'm going to pop those in as well so wind off my screws
into my loop terminal again this isn't connected to the lamp we've done wiring diagrams and
loads of other videos we know this is just bringing the line in out and down to the switch
connect those up it's always difficult to keep yourself out of the way of the camera
hopefully you can see what i'm doing so that's my loop section my three lines in there if
it was the end point there'd only be two and we've talked about that as well on the channel
so just check they're in make sure they don't come out and then we just lay those down so
we've got that and then we've got our switching line conductor next so we know it's not a
neutral okay it's got brown sleeving on it okay so that is going to be our switching
line conductor and again we can just put that into there maybe we can use our side cutters
for a third way of doing it strip it back and pop that one in again it doesn't matter
which one you have the two you go into but of course i want to leave the outside ones
for my flex i'm going to there make my connection and then bring my brown sleeving down so it's
close to my terminating point and then just dress that one back as well so it's just a
case now of laying them neatly in order that we've made those connections okay so we've
got two neutrals our three line connections and our switching line connection and then
if we look at what would happen now we'd have the flex blue flex and brown flecks if i bring
it around the correct way that would be for my connections here and here for my actual
pendant so that's it's connected up probably would have done these a fraction short i would
have liked them all to have been the same length as those neutral ones whether you go
back in and just terminate them slightly differently for lengthwise but that's my layout so i've
got my switching line conductor three permanent line or loop connections that's my line in
line out and line down to switch and my two neutrals my three CPC's connected within our
ceiling rose and pendant next video um i'll make a few on these i'll bring another cable
in as if we're taking another feed to another room uh we'll bring a three core in as if
we're going to an extractor fan and we'll bring a three core in as if we're going to
another light that comes on at the same time things like that so we'll have a play around
with this in future videos so that's how to connect to proceeding rows and pendant obviously
you've got to add the pendant element in when our cables are actually coming down through
the scene in a few tips that i use but as always i hope this video has been some help